Queen-Of-Hearts posted:

I don’t care how it was thought of a hundred years ago (though i can’t imagine the violence in our media today would be tolerated that many decades back)

WHY BONER NOW posted:

Yeah like if it's a bitter, sardonic humor, it can be appropriate imo.

The Grey posted:

Has anyone ever been to "Zak Bagans Haunted Museum" in Las Vegas?

Zak Bagans is a guy from one of those garbage ghost hunting shows. I thought the museum sounded interesting at first, as it has a bunch of supposedly cursed objects. But it turns out they have a bunch of murderobilia. Bloody mattresses where people were killed on, some kettle that a cannibal used to cook people, Chris Farley polaroids, and Jack Kevorkians van. So gross.

I find fictional horror stories and supernatural stuff fun, but anything based on real life is beyond disrespectful to the victims and their families.

Earwicker posted:

the level of violence people like in their entertainment has gone up and down in various cultures over the years but it's hard to think of a time when it's ever gone away or when "death as entertainment" didn't take some common form in many societies.

specifically, if you go "many decades back" you would find exactly the same type of content in today's "murder podcasts" instead in true crime books (think Truman Capote etc.) or in detective magazines, or in certain genres of dimestore novels. go back earlier, to the 19th century, and you get people going to public hangings for fun.

you are right that the main difference is that due to the nature of media technology, this stuff is now more "in the face" of people who aren't interested in it than in previous points in history. but this is an issue of the delivery mechanism, not the content. it's hard to concieve of any reality in which this type of entermainment or fascination is "shamed away" given how very widespread it's been throughout so many cycles of human behavior. i hope that you find ways to avoid it and i hope that companies like netflix et. al. get less single-minded about it, but i don't see it going away anytime soon.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

It's odd to me because I cannot listen to murder podcasts etc. It's just too much. But I can definitely listen to every episode of lions led by donkeys which has some detailed cruelty but listening to women being murdered by men which is most of the murder podcasts focus. Or men murdering men.

I just can't listen to the level of detail. I tried to watch mind hunter not knowing really what it was. I got to the fat gently caress talking about his murders and just had every fiber of my being forcing me to the. That poo poo off. I had the same experience with the show The Maid.

This is probably a deep childhood memory of my mother being violently abused by her first husband but I just can't watch or listen to violence against women in the detail that these shows or podcasts portray. It's pretty loving horrifying to glorify that poo poo.

Das Boo posted:

Not a podcast, but the best "true crime" media ever produced was I Survived... I use quotations because in addition to violent crime survivors, it covered survivors of natural disasters, animal attacks, accidents, etc. No schlocky reenactments or catty commentary, just the subject telling you their story against a black background. The only thing that stops it from being something you can purely listen to is some additional information occasionally being conveyed via text. All the survivors volunteer their stories and often do so as a form of advocacy, which means it's not exploitative of the subjects.

loving hell, that was a riveting show.

Buce posted:

wasn't there a show about people who got tapeworms and various other parasites on history or discovery? nothing harrowing, just "hey, i shat out some worms one time"

Das Boo posted:

Sometimes it's because women are so heavily on the receiving end of such violence. Reading about violent people can help you avoid the "mistakes" of others, like how hitchhiking went from extremely popular in the 70's to something you avoid at all costs today because of highly publicized cases like Bundy and Kemper. The Gift of Fear is considered a self-help book because it advocates instinct, details how predatory people think and operate, lists warning signs that someone is trying to manipulate you, and gives you ideas on how best to escape an escalating situation. There's even a section on how to handle stalkers. You learn about what killers target and what they avoid.

And then other women are drama junkies and think they could fix Alcala with kisses. Those women are gross. Maybe your wife is gross.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

This makes sense to an extent but like- you had women showing up to Bundy trials cosplaying victims or women sending Ramirez dozens of nudes in jail.

Then again if there was a famous hot woman killer would she be getting dick pics and prison proposals? Yeah probably. I dare say definitely.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

This makes sense to an extent but like- you had women showing up to Bundy trials cosplaying victims or women sending Ramirez dozens of nudes in jail.

Then again if there was a famous hot woman killer would she be getting dick pics and prison proposals? Yeah probably. I dare say definitely.

git apologist posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mugshawtys/status/1626605102810406913

jokes posted:

"I can fix her."

Smugworth posted:

Earwicker posted:

the level of violence people like in their entertainment has gone up and down in various cultures over the years but it's hard to think of a time when it's ever gone away or when "death as entertainment" didn't take some common form in many societies.

specifically, if you go "many decades back" you would find exactly the same type of content in today's "murder podcasts" instead in true crime books (think Truman Capote etc.) or in detective magazines, or in certain genres of dimestore novels. go back earlier, to the 19th century, and you get people going to public hangings for fun.