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External Organs posted:What's the most corrupted beer white claw
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 20:19 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 13:30 |
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xZAOx posted:I'm not saying never, but if you want to hold out for a sale, it could be a year or more. Exactly. That's how long folks should wait for Bliz to patch the game up and actually finish it. Its got Cyberpunk 2077 all over it.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 20:54 |
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MrMidnight posted:Exactly. That's how long folks should wait for Bliz to patch the game up and actually finish it. Its got Cyberpunk 2077 all over it. Being old has the benefit of being patient. I rarely feel the need to buy anything at launch. I have a lot of other games to play/finish in the meantime [insert obligatory comment about steam sales here].
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 20:56 |
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Big Mouth Billy Basshole posted:Unless there has been a lot of work behind the scenes, I'm not optimistic for launch. It's hard to go into too much detail, but everything felt so dull. The combat is fine, but imo not better than D3. Most builds played the same with a generator, spender, defensive, movement, buff, and a 2 min cooldown. With having to put points into skills there just didn't feel there much to experiment with once you unlocked each tier. My thoughts exactly fellow closed beta tester. I was super excited to get selected, played until I got to level 30 or so and then just lost interest.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 20:56 |
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xZAOx posted:
Yep. I'm sure the game will find its way in due time. Meanwhile, there's a ton of games to play thanks to the recent Goon game of the year thread.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 20:58 |
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xZAOx posted:
it's less that I'm patient and more that I don't have enough time to play everything so if I can get through the FOMO phase I'll be golden because inevitably I will pick something else up and stop thinking about missing out.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:00 |
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WarEternal posted:People should absolutely not buy this pile of poo poo lol. I hate that you're right, I know deep down you're right. I just really love Diablo, but it's not like I can't just stick with Diablo 2, and 3. Really want Diablo 4 to be good, it's unfair that its being made by Blizzard.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:04 |
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People are gonna buy this game because they need the demon clicker and then spend a few days fighting on SA over the ethics of it only to put in like 20 hours and move on to another game like Elden Ring DLC.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:08 |
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Still waiting for even a word about Path of Exile 2
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:08 |
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bengraven posted:People are gonna buy this game because they need the demon clicker and then spend a few days fighting on SA over the ethics of it only to put in like 20 hours and move on to another game like Elden Ring DLC. It's on FromSoft to release Elden Ring DLC right before D4.. Give us something to do while we learn how on fire this pile of old tires is.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:12 |
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Sab669 posted:Still waiting for even a word about Path of Exile 2 They are gonna drop all the rest of the info for it at exilecon which is like at the very end of July. Should include beta information iirc. I doubt we'll see anything about it until then.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:13 |
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bengraven posted:People are gonna buy this game because they need the demon clicker and then spend a few days fighting on SA over the ethics of it only to put in like 20 hours and move on to another game like Elden Ring DLC. I see you know your
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:14 |
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Maybe we will get lucky and Diablo IV will be on Game Pass.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:25 |
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Sab669 posted:Still waiting for even a word about Path of Exile 2 I'm not because I WILL get sucked in to that hole again and will love every second of it.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:30 |
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I said come in! posted:I hate that you're right, I know deep down you're right. I just really love Diablo, but it's not like I can't just stick with Diablo 2, and 3. Really want Diablo 4 to be good, it's unfair that its being made by Blizzard. I mean, I want to like it, it just looks like a total loving pile at the moment and it sounds like everyone making it is loving miserable and the people in charge of the direction of the game is literally the worst it has ever been.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:31 |
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What can you expect out of a game Blizzard apparently got flamed into making
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:35 |
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Tiny Timbs posted:What can you expect out of a game Blizzard apparently got flamed into making Yeah, this is another part of it. I know you're talking about the "don't you guys have phones?" stuff but also there's stuff they're saying they designed poo poo as being a reaction to people whining about aspects of Diablo 3 that actually make it a fun/good game.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:44 |
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This game looks extremely good, tons of stuff to do in the endgame, monetization seems fair and almost fully limited to cosmetics only, developer with a great track record, can't wait to check it out. Here's a link to more info.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:54 |
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New trailer looking good!
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:55 |
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Tiny Timbs posted:What can you expect out of a game Blizzard apparently got flamed into making WarEternal posted:Yeah, this is another part of it. I know you're talking about the "don't you guys have phones?" stuff but also there's stuff they're saying they designed poo poo as being a reaction to people whining about aspects of Diablo 3 that actually make it a fun/good game. Maybe Blizzard should try to make a good game I actually don't know.much about D4, maybe it will be good.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:57 |
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Mustached Demon posted:It's on FromSoft to release Elden Ring DLC right before D4.. Give us something to do while we learn how on fire this pile of old tires is. Can you imagine if we got a meaty DLC right before Diablo. D4 would still sell well but it would be hurt Blizzard a lot. Propaganda Hour posted:I see you know your I didn’t realize I said “everyone”. I misspelled “I am going to” because I do this every Activision release since like BFA.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 22:53 |
Can you cancel a pre-order after participating in the beta? Reactions to the closed beta ranged from "It's pretty good and I'm excited to play the full game." to "I lost interest. It's a pile of poo poo. No one should buy this." I'd really like a chance to form my own opinion before dropping $70+ on a game that may or may not suck. External Organs posted:They are gonna drop all the rest of the info for it at exilecon which is like at the very end of July. Should include beta information iirc. I doubt we'll see anything about it until then. PoE has done a lot to position itself as the anti-Diablo 3. It feels like GGG has been withholding PoE 2 information to do the same with Diablo 4. If the D4 launch date slips until just before, or even after, exilecon it'll be interesting to see how GGG reacts.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 00:02 |
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That Little Demon posted:World of Warcraft classic is a loving masterpiece wotlk classic is incredibly good and so will Diablo 4 be also
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 00:09 |
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That Little Demon posted:World of Warcraft classic is a loving masterpiece An Actual Princess posted:wotlk classic is incredibly good and so will Diablo 4 be also I'm not sure "The re-releases of their old games are good" is a very strong basis to assume that a new game will be good Especially when WC3 Reforged was (is?) quite the mess. Does the game really only launch with 5 classes? Weren't there 6 at launch + "DLC" Necromancer D3?
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 17:58 |
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D3 only launched with 5 classes - Barbarian, Wizard, Monk, Witch Doctor, Demon Hunter. Crusader was added with RoS and Necromancer got its own DLC. The difference to me is that D3 had very unique, visually distinct classes that were different from their predecessors both in terms of the gameplay and character. Every single class in D4 is a retread from some earlier game and they've kinda got nothing special going on.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 18:01 |
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Was the Crusader an expansion class? I guess that'd make sense ROS must've brought a new class, but I don't recall that at all -- but then that was 9 years ago () so of course I don't I'm kind of fine with them being repeats of the familiar classes; Demon Hunter was kind of lame IMO. I guess the Monk is probably cooler than D2's Paladin, but And I suppose the Barb & Wizard brought new tools to the table but they also very much cribbed on the popular Barb & Sorc stuff from D2.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 18:13 |
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I'm guessing first additional class with be required holy dmg crusader/monk/paladin, then after that no idea.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 18:25 |
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Sab669 posted:I'm kind of fine with them being repeats of the familiar classes; Demon Hunter was kind of lame IMO. I guess the Monk is probably cooler than D2's Paladin, but And I suppose the Barb & Wizard brought new tools to the table but they also very much cribbed on the popular Barb & Sorc stuff from D2. For me Diablo 3 excelled at giving all the classes a really distinctive silhouette and theme. Wizards were more than just traditional spellcasters, they were arrogant and unstable, and all of their abilities played into that sense of instability. Monks had an interesting blend of Eastern Orthodox and Asian martial arts influences that gave them their own distinct melee identity from slower, heavy-hitting Barbs. There was just a ton of attention to detail and creativity that seems to be totally lacking in D4, where every animation looks like they're from an F2P game. Launching with absolutely zero new classes or even an attempt to push the envelope a little just communicates a lack of vision.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 18:28 |
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Sab669 posted:I'm not sure "The re-releases of their old games are good" is a very strong basis to assume that a new game will be good "WOW Classic is good" is a loving hilarious statement given it basically confirms the constant bias of "a blizzard game was great until they hosed it up" Starcraft 2 has somehow held up really well, still owns. Maybe they should hire David Brevik back, Marvel Heroes was fun as gently caress
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 18:37 |
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Monks are the best D3 class. DH and Barb are tied in a very close second, then everything else. e: Also did they talk at all about integrating zDPS builds into this game for actual fun and interesting group play or is that miles ahead of where they are or too d3 for the d2 fanboys? Dameius fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Feb 15, 2023 |
# ? Feb 15, 2023 18:38 |
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I am just glad druid is back.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 18:45 |
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exquisite tea posted:Launching with absolutely zero new classes or even an attempt to push the envelope a little just communicates a lack of vision. This is my biggest concern about the game so far, like just gank some classes from DND or something. There's a thousand different things they could do. Of course you include a few fan favorites but drat do some new poo poo.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 18:49 |
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I'm one of those freaks that liked all of the classes in D3.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 19:00 |
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I said come in! posted:I am just glad druid is back. I was absolutely in love with the
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 19:02 |
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Propaganda Hour posted:I'm one of those freaks that liked all of the classes in D3. Nah, all of the D3 classes were cool! It was worth it to play and level up everyone.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 19:04 |
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I said come in! posted:I am just glad druid is back. Druid was definitely the worst feeling of the classes in the closed beta so i hope they gave it a lot of love in the meantime.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 19:05 |
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Sgt. Cosgrove posted:Druid was definitely the worst feeling of the classes in the closed beta so i hope they gave it a lot of love in the meantime. That makes me sad. I hope you're right.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 19:08 |
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I had a hard time choosing. The monk and demon hunter were my favorite from the trailers but the edge lord goth in me went DH first. But in the end the wizard was my favorite to play. Freezing time was fun.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 19:09 |
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yeah all the classes in 3 were fun to play even the witch doctor and necro despite have similarities were both entertaining
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 19:09 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 13:30 |
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Found this article from a few months ago that goes over why they chose the classes they did https://www.pcgamesn.com/diablo-4/classes-new Also has a glimmer of hope for us witch doctor fans
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