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it’s possible to not sell your labor, it’s just that doing that comes with its own headaches, namely massive insecurity. if I lived in a high trust, highly subsidized society like Norway, I’d probably give it a shot again but because cost of living is so high in the states, it’s pretty precarious to just rely on yourself Especially if yourself is kind of a dumbass, which I am
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italian quid posted:I'm passionate about watching TV while "replying to emails" then clocking out at 3pm and taking home enough to live comfortably lmao. italian quid posted:Don't read some book about theorycrafting which jobs are good or bad lmfao
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is it normal to just love the entire concept of twerk?
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OMFG FURRY posted:guys i found the admin/hr worker blowing up someone’s spot when they’re clearly phoning it in is the Corp equivalent of snitching on your fellow gang member You didn’t see poo poo
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OMFG FURRY posted:guys i found the admin/hr worker I'm actually in accounting but so what lmao
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Feb 17, 2023 23:01
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Hey boss I think I found a way automate this thi-- *gets shanked because it is justice*
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Feb 17, 2023 23:05
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cat botherer posted:socially useful professions pay poo poo
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Farmers, one of the most useful professions in the world, in the US get paid to NOT work...
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Buschmaki posted:Farmers, one of the most useful professions in the world, in the US get paid to NOT work... farmers are in the landlord class in the US
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What profession is it you all are idolizing? Not office work, not farming, not retail, not service work, not manufacturing for a corporation. I’m not sure that leaves that many jobs left, so what is it you want to do?
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i like the days when i can just sit around and get paid to post. those are the good days.
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Sophy Wackles posted:What profession is it you all are idolizing? Not office work, not farming, not retail, not service work, not manufacturing for a corporation. I’m not sure that leaves that many jobs left, so what is it you want to do? bazonga journalist
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Sophy Wackles posted:What profession is it you all are idolizing? Not office work, not farming, not retail, not service work, not manufacturing for a corporation. I’m not sure that leaves that many jobs left, so what is it you want to do? Something with cute furry animals (vertebrates and higher only), for 20h per week, for a median income, weekends off and smoking breaks whenever I want
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Part time at a slaughterhouse.
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You'll want to wear a good mask because if you work with pigs there's aerolized pig brain particles everywhere
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Sophy Wackles posted:What profession is it you all are idolizing? Not office work, not farming, not retail, not service work, not manufacturing for a corporation. I’m not sure that leaves that many jobs left, so what is it you want to do? …..not work?
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Feb 18, 2023 03:14
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I like my job.
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Beartaco posted:I like my job. 
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Your best bet is probably therapy OP. Going and living out of your car is always a legitimate option but it kind of blows.
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Feb 18, 2023 03:25
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work sucks and you should say it op
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Work is fine if they pay decently and give you a work/life balance.
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Work-life balance is a lie. Do drugs and slowly poison your boss.
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Work loving sucks, that's why they have to pay you to do it and then threaten to make your life miserable if you don't
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Cosmik Slop posted:Work loving sucks, that's why they have to pay you to do it and then threaten to make your life miserable if you don't they're paying you to do it because you create or improve a good or service through your labour which produces value op
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Since David Graeber got brought up that gives me an excuse to post one of the most amazingly dystopian articles ever. I think we'll get a basic income in 10-15 years but I'm growing more and more pessimistic that it'll come with conditions and probably go as far as forcing you to do literal fake work like the article talks about.
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Rollos posted:Since David Graeber got brought up that gives me an excuse to post one of the most amazingly dystopian articles ever. I think we'll get a basic income in 10-15 years but I'm growing more and more pessimistic that it'll come with conditions and probably go as far as forcing you to do literal fake work like the article talks about. Thanks for sharing this, it was good and made me sad.
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Leroy Dennui posted:I used to go out of my way to design creative assignments that were effective at garnering student engagement. Now I'm in my third year of teaching and I'm already creatively bankrupt in the classroom. Maybe the epic corporate speak like grabbing the nettle and driving engagement isn't the vibe?
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Rollos posted:Since David Graeber got brought up that gives me an excuse to post one of the most amazingly dystopian articles ever. I think we'll get a basic income in 10-15 years but I'm growing more and more pessimistic that it'll come with conditions and probably go as far as forcing you to do literal fake work like the article talks about. lol bro B won't even cancel student loans or honk a couple thou into our coffers. No basic income is coming just more prisons.
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nom epique posted:lol bro B won't even cancel student loans or honk a couple thou into our coffers. No basic income is coming just more prisons. 
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thinking about all thos prison jobs... 
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Rollos posted:Since David Graeber got brought up that gives me an excuse to post one of the most amazingly dystopian articles ever. I think we'll get a basic income in 10-15 years but I'm growing more and more pessimistic that it'll come with conditions and probably go as far as forcing you to do literal fake work like the article talks about. I think basic income will only ever come if it demonstrates that people on it overwhelmingly continue to perform paid labor in some form. This problem goes even beyond keeping the economy/public sector going. It's also about some fundamental social contract that's as old as humanity itself, i.e. everyone in society who can needs to chip in somehow. People produce food for you, clean your sewers, make you clothes, fix your roads, collect your garbage, treat your medical conditions, etc. What are you going to do in return to make those people's lives better? Nobody cleans sewers as a favor or a hobby. You don't have to provide something of equal value, but you need to make a good effort to do at least something if you can.
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Thanks to work, I can afford 1(!) Playstation 3 gaming console
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pencilhands posted:I’m 35 years old, I’ve tried every different type of career and I can say without a doubt the happiest time of my life was in 2020 where I got paid to sit on my rear end and do nothing. I’m apparently only “passionate” about doing whatever I want, when I want. Am I mentally ill or something? Why are careers framed as “passions” when you’re literally just slaving away for some other rear end in a top hat? Is it so wrong to want to relax? Honestly, you need to figure out if there's any job that you would honestly enjoy, and then, since that's probably a lower paying job, because they don't pay much for the enjoyable ones, you decide if you can accept that income. I left a field where I would have eventually settled at around 80k a year for one that caps out at half of that, but which I legitimately would do for free. I adjusted my needs in life accordingly, and while having money would be pretty great, I'm happier than I've ever been. And not like, just on the inside. I used to be known as an angry person, now people find it delightfully out of character when I get angry.
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i had a moment of clarity in my 20s when i realized that no one is talking about how terrible work is. i realized i hosed up and by not wanting to work, i ended up having to work hard jobs for nothing and feeling like poo poo everyday. boy, did i gently caress it up. i wish i could start over. but the ai will displace all you comfortable workers real soon, so try to remember through your despair, to think of me, dear richard.
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Lol I pay my robots salary. I know they donate a huge chunk of it to food banks, and I’m not too prying about it but I know they like to buy a lot of art and movies and concert tickets.
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The happiest I've ever been was at jobs with lots of downtime where I was basically paid to be alone with my thoughts while waiting for the next task to come in.
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GABA ghoul posted:I think basic income will only ever come if it demonstrates that people on it overwhelmingly continue to perform paid labor in some form. This problem goes even beyond keeping the economy/public sector going. It's also about some fundamental social contract that's as old as humanity itself, i.e. everyone in society who can needs to chip in somehow. People produce food for you, clean your sewers, make you clothes, fix your roads, collect your garbage, treat your medical conditions, etc. What are you going to do in return to make those people's lives better? Nobody cleans sewers as a favor or a hobby. You don't have to provide something of equal value, but you need to make a good effort to do at least something if you can. This is a good post, I think.
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GABA ghoul posted:I think basic income will only ever come if it demonstrates that people on it overwhelmingly continue to perform paid labor in some form. This problem goes even beyond keeping the economy/public sector going. It's also about some fundamental social contract that's as old as humanity itself, i.e. everyone in society who can needs to chip in somehow. People produce food for you, clean your sewers, make you clothes, fix your roads, collect your garbage, treat your medical conditions, etc. What are you going to do in return to make those people's lives better? Nobody cleans sewers as a favor or a hobby. You don't have to provide something of equal value, but you need to make a good effort to do at least something if you can. That's why I make spreadsheets and powerpoints
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GABA ghoul posted:I think basic income will only ever come if it demonstrates that people on it overwhelmingly continue to perform paid labor in some form. This problem goes even beyond keeping the economy/public sector going. It's also about some fundamental social contract that's as old as humanity itself, i.e. everyone in society who can needs to chip in somehow. People produce food for you, clean your sewers, make you clothes, fix your roads, collect your garbage, treat your medical conditions, etc. What are you going to do in return to make those people's lives better? Nobody cleans sewers as a favor or a hobby. You don't have to provide something of equal value, but you need to make a good effort to do at least something if you can. Emphases added. This pill would be easier to swallow if it people continuing to perform labour that is currently unpaid were sufficient. For instance, the vast majority of all care work that happens across the world. I would wager that a lot of — most? — unpaid labour has higher social value than paid labour.
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Three Olives posted:Have you considered being a welfare queen? I keep hearing about how great it is to just live off the government and not do anything all day. And that it is super easy to qualify for any assistance even if you like working but are too sick to do so. Or too poor to do so. Three Olives posted:Medical claims at a health insurance company. The way they get around feeling any kind of bad or attempting to find ways to get the drugs or treatment they kid deserves is by being completely incompetent. It is baffling and I’ve learned a lot about people that I did not want to know prior to being fired for being competent. Holy poo poo! I’m replying to another 3 olives post. Weird. Bored fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Feb 18, 2023 |
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