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A CRAB IRL posted:My job currently is heavy duty algo optimisation at massive scale and lambda calculus poo poo, proper computer science problem spaces, and there is no room there for folks without the deep theory or maths skills, they can't hang - but I will concede 95%+ of modern software engineering has only minimal crossover with this I bet you just move json from one server to another like the rest of us
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olives black posted:the gen ed courses also teach you that there's a big wide world outside of writing software I liked my gen ed courses. The only courses I outright disliked were the dips into EE or higher math and the technical writing class where the instructor's attitude was summed up by the first class of the semester just being her bitching about the new engineering building that went up.
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Vim Fuego posted:microsolder my dick to my balls Sorry I don't have a microscope or microscopic tweezers on me, otherwise I'd help u out
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MrQwerty posted:also dollar-store wizard master thread
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Smugworth posted:I bet you just move json from one server to another like the rest of us I mean that's not a million miles from the truth but in a global events bus at half-exabyte scale and 10m+ cloud spend a month, so algorithmic optimisations for the p99+ of your worst operations are extremely impactful, you can't just linearly horizontally scale this stuff forever
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Feb 21, 2023 04:50
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Just learn to dig ditches it's a lot more fulfilling and useful than computers
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Feb 21, 2023 04:53
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wtf even is a computer anyway? sounds like some real nerd rear end poo poo.
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I agree
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A machine for making you a worse human
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flubber nuts posted:wtf even is a computer anyway? sounds like some real nerd rear end poo poo. It's something that attaches to ur body and changes your fundamental nature
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You don’t have to get a computer science degree. Just apply to a lot of jobs, and eventually they’ll be curious how much you know without a degree, and test your skills during interviews. As long as you are good at the qualifications and skills they’re asking for, you’ve got your chance to make six figgies without wasting your time getting some piece of paper that costs tens of thousands and many years of your life.flubber nuts posted:wtf even is a computer anyway? sounds like some real nerd rear end poo poo. That’s exactly what it they are.
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A CRAB IRL posted:I mean that's not a million miles from the truth but in a global events bus at half-exabyte scale and 10m+ cloud spend a month, so algorithmic optimisations for the p99+ of your worst operations are extremely impactful, you can't just linearly horizontally scale this stuff forever Been saying this
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I'm already ashamed of myself for that post
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MrQwerty posted:also dollar-store wizard master thread
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Learn node.js, and you can get a job that pays 90-135k/year. No stupid math classes required.
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pencilhands posted:
Keep trying op you seem to be on the right path
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Yeah I was declared as Comp Sci major for one term then went to undecided, it was boring as hell and they were trying to teach us baby poo poo like what RAM stands for and how to code html and poo poo. I realized I wasn't gonna finish college unless I was majoring in something I actually enjoyed so I got an Italian degree and during those four years I did a study abroad in Perugia drinking wine and chilling with hot Italian babes Thanks for listening
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A CRAB IRL posted:I mean that's not a million miles from the truth but in a global events bus at half-exabyte scale and 10m+ cloud spend a month, so algorithmic optimisations for the p99+ of your worst operations are extremely impactful, you can't just linearly horizontally scale this stuff forever
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Feb 21, 2023 05:27
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stop all the downloadin’
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Saying things are "cancer" is a great move for people who have never dealt with cancer. I hope you feel appropately called out by this post even though I agree with the generic version of your concept
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:have you considered just blaming the p99+ timings on the hosting provider until you can strongarm another team into owning the lovely code? I mean I suppose I could try blaming Kinesis but it's obviously and objectively our own lovely rats nest code to blame, so
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olives black posted:Unless your undergrad program is nuts you'll only have to take single-variable calc, discrete math, basic stats and maybe linear algebra. Tell me more
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ime as a big time computer toucher people with CS degrees often end up trying to intellectualise stuff rather than just gitting r done
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A CRAB IRL posted:I mean that's not a million miles from the truth but in a global events bus at half-exabyte scale and 10m+ cloud spend a month, so algorithmic optimisations for the p99+ of your worst operations are extremely impactful, you can't just linearly horizontally scale this stuff forever this guy gets it 0.1% of programming jobs are like this 99.9% of programming jobs are just bolting poo poo together
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A CRAB IRL posted:I mean I suppose I could try blaming Kinesis but it's obviously and objectively our own lovely rats nest code to blame, so
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git apologist posted:ime as a big time computer toucher people with CS degrees often end up trying to intellectualise stuff rather than just gitting r done Goes both ways
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:blaming others and externalizing debt before you bail for the next company works at constant time complexity, did they not teach you this at algorithm college God drat, teach me ur ways
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A CRAB IRL posted:Goes both ways get his rear end!!
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A CRAB IRL posted:I mean that's not a million miles from the truth but in a global events bus at half-exabyte scale and 10m+ cloud spend a month, so algorithmic optimisations for the p99+ of your worst operations are extremely impactful, you can't just linearly horizontally scale this stuff forever doing the same CRUD operations at a rate mere mortals could never comprehend
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Konar posted:doing the same CRUD operations at a rate mere mortals could never comprehend Hey I'll have you know we gently caress them up and lose them at a rate you could never comprehend too
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A CRAB IRL posted:God drat, teach me ur ways Congratulations, you have now vastly improved the averages and p99s of your apps’ performance. Put that on your resume and jump ship before anybody can get revenge
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A CRAB IRL posted:Hey I'll have you know we gently caress them up and lose them at a rate you could never comprehend too Challenge accepted
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Smugworth posted:Too bad you don't know how to stop lying; Fixed it. I am a very good programmer (I'm not), who is amazing at theory (Nope just relative to the coding so a smidge less poo poo). Also dated so I couldn't do poo poo these days, bring back hypercard. edit: Oh and nothing advanced just the basic poo poo. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Feb 21, 2023 |
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I just code things I think seem cool, it isn't hard. If you don't understand something then just research it. Implement some ideas from a paper. Someone mentioned lambda functions, those are really useful, go learn them. I did one semester of Comp Sci before realizing I didn't give a gently caress about Comp Sci. Like, there's a lot of fields where formal education is important but if you don't even know why you want or need the formal education then you're a big ole dumb dumb for paying for it lol
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BRICKFACE posted:I've worked as a software engineer for years with no degree and I don't see any appreciable difference between people who have CS degrees and those who don't In my experience, the ones who do have CS degrees tend to have nerdier hobbies. But the boring kind of nerdy, like being pedantic about the names of specific types of polyhedrons or writing a rubiks cube solver program in LISP or w/e.
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pencilhands posted:Why the gently caress do I need to be an expert in Math and Statistics to get a degree in Comp Sci? This loving poo poo has become unbearable. I'm already 10 years in the undergrad and have only passed half of the subjects which was literally cancer. Average graduation time is 8 years while the minimum time needed is 4. It would take at least 2 more years of non stop studying to finish this poo poo. Why do they make em so hard? I think I have some thoughts on this as a former Math/CS major and it's been a while since I really dug in deep on the research of this: CS gets a lot of duplicated major sublistings, I seem to think: CS as a stand alone, CS with Math, CS with Stats, CS with Actuarial, CS with Physics. In most of those cases, you're not really getting 'one' degree worth of courses, but two. You're doing a dual major, which would be fine if that's what you wanted, but if you just want the CS and the school doesn't offer 'just' a CS, you're a bit screwed. Also, CS majors I think tend to get railroaded into a really crap position for the first few years of their degree where if they burn out or have problems, they're screwed. They had such a major (no pun intended) focus on requirements that they're stuck with where they can go when they need to change programs. For example, when I wanted to change programs I had already taken several classes on the college's Math/CS roadmap, which just so happened to have HUGE problems because there wasn't really an 'out' that kept me in any sort of STEM field that WASN'T directly related to Math or CS, nor many options outside of Math-related fields to move into. (That, and I was told I couldn't change major, anyway, even if I had the right classes.) Oddly enough, I seem to think the school I went to had multiple CS programs that were split between different departments, where the ENGINEERING CS degree ultimately had less Math requirements, but more physics and applied computer-centric courses. There's a point where the higher level math seems to become all 'theory' and that's what killed me. JediTalentAgent fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Feb 21, 2023 |
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pretty sure at this next job I'm gonna end up on a fac/maint path that will involve me learning to program PLCs and I'm looking forward to that, I've been very interested in learning that specific skill since I've been interacting with PLCs all night for years
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programming is for nerds. someone show this guy what happens to nerds around here
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