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My old boss at the restaurant I used to work at once told me that his profit margin on food was like 25 cents per plate which didn’t seem particularly sustainable, considering 300 heads was a busy Friday for us so a whopping $75 in profit. Granted that doesn’t include booze which has a much higher markup. It’s also very possible he was blowing smoke up our asses.
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Feb 28, 2023 20:19
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A Strange Aeon posted:I feel like I read somewhere that without illegal labor in the back of house, most restaurants wouldn't even be close to breaking even. Is that something anyone has experienced? I mean the front of house aren't even being paid minimum wage so it's unclear how much worse off the back could be. I spent 2002-2012ish working in kitchens in Texas as a line cook and hourly supervisor. Servers staff in Texas made 2-something/hour, and if their declared tips + hourly rate didn't earn them minimum wage ($6.55) when all was said and done, I think the restaurant had to make up the difference. The kitchen staff was paid $10-14 an hour, about 20-30k a year for me, but if business volume wasn't up your hours could be cut dramatically. I learned work multiple stations and pick up admin stuff like ordering to keep I've worked with line and prep cooks from all over Mexico, Central America, and South America. These jobs do not pay well, 20-30k yearly, at least in the early 2000s in Texas. Spanish is like a first class language, I picked up quite a bit of kitchen Spanish during my culinary career. Didn't really make a habit of asking people their citizenship status, but I can share a story about a big Texas corporate chain restaurant I worked at. A cohort of us were selected for their corporate manager training program. Well, when HR goes to perform background checks on a couple of the guys from Mexico, they determine their identities are fraudulent, and they are terminated. At least one of the guys came back to work for us as a cook, which makes no sense, don't remember if the other did. They were both great guys to work with.
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Feb 28, 2023 21:16
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A Strange Aeon posted:I read that essay and it just baffles me how you're actually supposed to go about doing something like that. I know nothing about the restaurant business but the impression I have is that you should have at least a few hundred thousand and be able to lose it without causing yourself undue hardship. Bad Purchase posted:oh look, more propaganda to dissuade entrepreneurs from starting small businesses 
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Feb 28, 2023 21:54
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Elukka posted:On a lark I googled "should I open a restaurant" and got this Quora expert, founder of businesses, saying it's easy and will probably make you a millionaire. Probably has a stake in an investment group that buys failing and bankrupt restaurants and parcels them out
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Feb 28, 2023 22:24
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A Strange Aeon posted:I feel like I read somewhere that without illegal labor in the back of house, most restaurants wouldn't even be close to breaking even. Is that something anyone has experienced? I mean the front of house aren't even being paid minimum wage so it's unclear how much worse off the back could be. 
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Feb 28, 2023 22:27
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People criticized Bar Rescue a lot for being staged and overdramatic about restaurant ownership but poo poo like this article proves it's not all fakeBAGS FLY AT NOON posted:Doesn’t even have the fish cakes or thrice fried potatoes anymore wtf Top-tier restaurant rated FOUR STARS by the Toronto Star uses Calibri for their menu
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Feb 28, 2023 22:42
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Ralph Hurley posted:I had lunch at a falafel and kabob place in Boston once and as I was waiting for my food I saw that on an entire wall of the place was printed this long step by step story of the years of hell the place went though getting some enormous billy badass bread oven shipped over from Israel to make their pita.
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Feb 28, 2023 22:49
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sudonim posted:I live in Boston andi love both falafel and stories of bad decisions, do you remember the name of the place I’ve been trying to remember it but it’s not coming back to me. This was like 7 years ago and I want to say it was around Harvard Square.
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Mar 1, 2023 00:42
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:"How do you make a small fortune in the restaurant business? Start with a large fortune." This reminds me of "How do you make money at a casino? You work there."
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Mar 1, 2023 01:51
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Have you always been this terrible a poster or are you going through a breakdown of some sort? I mean, I don't even remember before the last few months but now whenever I see a poo poo post in GBS there is a good chance it is from you, OP. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 1, 2023 02:05
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Waltzing Along posted:Have you always been this terrible a poster or are you going through a breakdown of some sort? I mean, I don't even remember before the last few months but now whenever I see a poo poo post in GBS there is a good chance it is from you, OP. mad cuz the new owner still manages to keep the lights on?
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Mar 1, 2023 02:34
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Rivethead posted:This reminds me of "How do you make money at a casino? You work there." Or play poker. But that turns into a 18hr grind and it’s easier to play with computers for a living. Or so I’m told.
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Mar 1, 2023 02:43
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a restaurant that serves hot dogs except its in a waffle cone instead of a bun
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Mar 1, 2023 04:58
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Ralph Hurley posted:I’ve been trying to remember it but it’s not coming back to me. This was like 7 years ago and I want to say it was around Harvard Square. Clover! It’s great, there’s a dozen or so locations around greater Boston. IMO the best sandwich there is actually the egg and egg, which is a sliced hard boiled egg with deep fried eggplant, hummus, lots of good stuff. Dump a bunch of hot sauce in it, you won’t regret it.
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Mar 1, 2023 05:54
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Yep that was it. Clover Food Lab. I looked at their website and I guess the troubles getting the oven weren’t nearly as extreme as I remember reading on their wall. Only like a month or so of delay. Anyway. Now I want falafel.
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Mar 1, 2023 08:13
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In over my balls
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Mar 1, 2023 08:22
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Ralph Hurley posted:Yep that was it. Clover Food Lab. I looked at their website and I guess the troubles getting the oven weren’t nearly as extreme as I remember reading on their wall. Only like a month or so of delay. Christ I miss Clover. I’ll give you this Boston, solid places to get a bite, all over.
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Mar 1, 2023 09:33
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You see the real trick is if you ever want to start a bar/restaurant, just concentrate on the item with highest profit/cost ratio and likeliest to make your place the busiest. So after you've started up your opium den, you can chose to serve food and booze if you really want, but as at this point you're basically set, eh.
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Mar 1, 2023 11:10
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A local legally-distinct-from-Harry-Potter "Wizard" bar near me opened up and suddenly closed recently, there's vague rumors of the owners fighting, treating staff like poo poo, money problems, etc. I really hope we get the full story like in the OP some time. Ballard’s Fake Harry Potter Restaurant Closes Under Mysterious Circumstances Here's one of the owners, with the ridiculous nom de guerre of Geoffrey Thaddeus Constantine Balch 
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Mar 1, 2023 11:52
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Bad Purchase posted:oh look, more propaganda to dissuade entrepreneurs from starting small businesses The idea this was what it was got me annoyed enough to read it and by God it really is, especially with passages like this quote:I knew that in order to serve booze, I needed my liquor service certification, so Dorothy and I took the online test and discovered with terror the liabilities we would face, including being responsible for any wilful destruction, plunder, pillaging and/or death caused by an over-served customer. Jameson had mentioned that I should incorporate my business, which would protect me personally from such liabilities, so I doled out $3,000 to hire a lawyer to oversee my incorporation. Oh noooo, culpability for the actions that take place in my restaurant?? There's gotta be a way to protect me from dreaded liability  edit: quote:I had left the liquor licence transfer to the last minute, but my lawyer assured me it would be okay. Constantly he talks about how much money every single thing costs, to the exact dollar amount. It really is propaganda disguised as some guy's cautionary tale. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 12:31
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Like can you imagine making any major life decisions without first accepting culpability for what happens afterward? The dude opened a bar and did not do that. Even though the world of restauranteering sucks, this is not its fault.
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Mar 1, 2023 12:33
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I am missing what propaganda purpose it is supposedly serving -- who benefits from people not pursuing small businesses?
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Mar 1, 2023 13:37
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Big restaurant, obviously.
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Mar 1, 2023 14:25
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It's the big wigs at General Electric and Whirlpool putting these articles out. They want us to stay home with their stoves and dishwashers instead of going out to fancy restaurants run by idealistic Toronto yuppies.
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Mar 1, 2023 15:00
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Hunter Biden is behind this I just know it.
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Mar 1, 2023 16:13
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CJacobs posted:The idea this was what it was got me annoyed enough to read it and by God it really is, especially with passages like this
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Mar 1, 2023 17:17
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Just start a hotdog stand and sell drugs instead
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Mar 1, 2023 17:33
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Colonel Cancer posted:Just start a hotdog stand and sell drugs instead this is the way to go...but hide the drugs inside the hotdog so the junkies have to eat their way into the drugs in order to inject them. That way they get some nutrition so you will have some longevity for your business.
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Mar 1, 2023 18:51
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i really want to read an article written exactly like this but from lowtax's point of view
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Mar 1, 2023 18:52
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JackBandit posted:Clover! It’s great, there’s a dozen or so locations around greater Boston. IMO the best sandwich there is actually the egg and egg, which is a sliced hard boiled egg with deep fried eggplant, hummus, lots of good stuff. Dump a bunch of hot sauce in it, you won’t regret it. The falafel pita i got from clover back when they were just a food truck was hands down the worst falafel I've ever eaten since I lived here. Soggy and badly layered. I must've had the one bad one since everyone else raves about them (or everyone else loves soggy falafel?) Local chain now tho so I guess they weren't in over their heads!
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Mar 1, 2023 19:42
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The guy who franchised chuck e cheese probably did ok for himself
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Smugworth posted:The guy who franchised chuck e cheese probably did ok for himself He still hangs out in a rat suit somewhere...first furry ever.
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ManBoyChef posted:He still hangs out in a rat suit somewhere...first furry ever. 
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Mar 1, 2023 20:52
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Imagine the smell
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Colonel Cancer posted:Imagine the smell  A smell is created when a substance releases molecules into the air. For us to detect the smell, those molecules need to enter our nose. The more volatile the substance is, the stronger its smell!
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Mar 1, 2023 21:15
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Beakman > Bill Nye
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Mar 1, 2023 22:00
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cinnabon is super cheap franchise thats why they are in alot of truck stops!!
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Someone tried to open a Roy Rogers franchise here like a couple years ago, right before the pandemic and it went down HARD and FAST.
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kntfkr posted:Someone tried to open a Roy Rogers franchise here like a couple years ago, right before the pandemic and it went down HARD and FAST. WHY. There was one by where I grew up that made it I think into 2015. I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who has eaten at a Roy Rogers, even that one on the NJ Turnpike.
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