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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1783777046709059717quote:A Russian official came straight to a college to recruit 18-year-old schoolchildren to go to war. He brought with him one who expressed a desire to sign a contract with the Ministry of Defense to die in Ukraine, since there is "no work in his town, nothing to do". 
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Apr 26, 2024 13:21
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In what way, according to him, was there a "misunderstanding"? That he let it slip that further mobilization may be looming? Or that life in Russia is not so happy as propaganda claims?
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Apr 26, 2024 13:33
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I remember that scene from All Quiet on the Western Front. Oh. This is 110 years later.
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Apr 26, 2024 14:02
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The contrast between Ukraine reluctantly conscripting 25 year olds for fear of hollowing out their future generation, and Russia straight up abducting teens for service is STARK.
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Apr 26, 2024 14:06
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Scam Likely posted:The contrast between Ukraine reluctantly conscripting 25 year olds for fear of hollowing out their future generation, and Russia straight up abducting teens for service is STARK. "But don't you see, Ukraine is just wasting and sacrificing their youth's lives, whereas Great Russia pays extremely well for their service to the motherland."
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Apr 26, 2024 14:25
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Der Kyhe posted:"But don't you see, Ukraine is just wasting and sacrificing their youth's lives, whereas Great Russia pays extremely well for their service to the motherland." "Here's your block of fish."
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Apr 26, 2024 14:26
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pro starcraft loser posted:I remember that scene from All Quiet on the Western Front. 110 years, yet the idiots remain the same. 
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Apr 26, 2024 14:30
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CommieGIR posted:"Here's your block of fish." Sorry comrade, we're out of fish blocks, these two circus tickets will just have to do. 
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Apr 26, 2024 14:49
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zone posted:Sorry comrade, we're out of fish blocks, these two circus tickets will just have to do. Also - the Circus is a recruiting event for the Army. And its mandatory.
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Apr 26, 2024 14:49
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1783800620295548960quote:One Russian general and member of the State Duma Defense Committee lied to the Russians that there were supposedly no mobilised people left at all, because they had all signed contracts, and the rest had already gone home, and supposedly no one in the Russian army fights against their will.    Lies and coercion all the way down, from the top to the bottom
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Apr 26, 2024 15:02
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Währenddessen in Österreich
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Apr 26, 2024 15:06
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Antigravitas posted:Währenddessen in Österreich Stark difference to the German right who calls it Öko-Faschismus.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:00
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Antigravitas posted:Währenddessen in Österreich Every time I see a party with an Ö in its acronym I know I'm about to read the stupidest poo poo
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Apr 26, 2024 16:09
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My mind started wandering and I imagined $61b worth of doorbells & explosives scattered along the front.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:27
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ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:My mind started wandering and I imagined $61b worth of doorbells & explosives scattered along the front. Every single tree has 5 doorbells. Pick the right one to win a prize!
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Apr 26, 2024 16:50
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I find it almost scammy in the way the money is utilized. I bet if UA was just given money to buy poo poo they need a lot of their material woes would be solved much faster. Like, let them buy 1000 abrams if they want to. Poland bought 250 Abrams tanks for 1 billion as comparison.
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Apr 26, 2024 17:09
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Burns posted:I find it almost scammy in the way the money is utilized. I bet if UA was just given money to buy poo poo they need a lot of their material woes would be solved much faster. Like, let them buy 1000 abrams if they want to. Poland bought 250 Abrams tanks for 1 billion as comparison. I wonder what 1,000 F15s could do.
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Apr 26, 2024 17:28
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hydroceramics posted:I wonder what 1,000 F15s could do. Well, i suppose the F15 would finally fight tje war it was made for.
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Apr 26, 2024 17:40
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Burns posted:Well, i suppose the F15 would finally fight tje war it was made for. Lmao just did some googling; during Desert Storm the US used 1,600 aircraft of all types. 1k F15s would have air dominance established pdq.
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Apr 26, 2024 17:45
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ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:My mind started wandering and I imagined $61b worth of doorbells & explosives scattered along the front. 
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Apr 26, 2024 18:01
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hydroceramics posted:Lmao just did some googling; during Desert Storm the US used 1,600 aircraft of all types. 1k F15s would have air dominance established pdq. Only if you throw in some AWACS and Wild Weasels (or Growlers). The SEAD campaign was brutal. Also the almost 300 Tomahawks used... As an opening salvo.
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Apr 26, 2024 18:09
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Burns posted:I find it almost scammy in the way the money is utilized. I bet if UA was just given money to buy poo poo they need a lot of their material woes would be solved much faster. Like, let them buy 1000 abrams if they want to. Poland bought 250 Abrams tanks for 1 billion as comparison. Maybe you have better insight but that's not what I'm reading in regards to corruption.
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Apr 26, 2024 18:12
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ed: nm, not relevant.
Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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Apr 26, 2024 18:37
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https://twitter.com/blyskavka_ua/status/1783867117986525682quote:Evacuation of Kyiv hospitals is connected with threats from the head of the SSC of Belarus, ivan tertel.
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Apr 26, 2024 18:40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWxOWSp432A Shoot me
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Apr 27, 2024 00:08
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Kid on the left at 1:21 not enthusiastic enough. Recommend family for reeducation.
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Apr 27, 2024 00:20
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Apr 27, 2024 02:49
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Burns posted:I find it almost scammy in the way the money is utilized. I bet if UA was just given money to buy poo poo they need a lot of their material woes would be solved much faster. Like, let them buy 1000 abrams if they want to. Poland bought 250 Abrams tanks for 1 billion as comparison. For most things that would make sense, but heavy military equipment has long lead times. These contracts take a while to deliver. For example, the Abrams tanks that Poland bought in 2022 will be delivered in 2025-26. Better to give them stuff straight from the stocks rather than make them wait.
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Apr 27, 2024 03:22
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golden bubble posted:For most things that would make sense, but heavy military equipment has long lead times. These contracts take a while to deliver. For example, the Abrams tanks that Poland bought in 2022 will be delivered in 2025-26. Better to give them stuff straight from the stocks rather than make them wait. Also there is training if you are introducing new equipment. Say we did give them 1000 F-15's. How long would it take to train the pilots to fly enough of them to have a real impact in the war? Same with the "just give them a Ticonderoga class cruiser". Training up a full crew for it, or even a bare-bones crew just enough to get it to some point where it could launch missiles, which would also take training, and having a least a minimal ability to defend itself, more training.
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Apr 27, 2024 05:58
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Is there any realistic possibility that once Ukraine gets their jets they can strike deep behind enemy lines?
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Apr 27, 2024 06:14
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https://twitter.com/blyskavka_ua/status/1784085175917240711
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Apr 27, 2024 06:49
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redshirt posted:Is there any realistic possibility that once Ukraine gets their jets they can strike deep behind enemy lines? They will continue to strike deep behind enemy lines even after they get the f16s. I think your question is "are they gonna fly those f16s into Russia?" and the answer at the moment is no, almost certainly not. Air-defence, "escalation management" etc.
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Apr 27, 2024 07:33
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The Locator posted:Also there is training if you are introducing new equipment. Say we did give them 1000 F-15's. How long would it take to train the pilots to fly enough of them to have a real impact in the war? Same with the "just give them a Ticonderoga class cruiser". Training up a full crew for it, or even a bare-bones crew just enough to get it to some point where it could launch missiles, which would also take training, and having a least a minimal ability to defend itself, more training. Even more reasons why we should have just given them all the good poo poo when we figured out Russia was going to invade.
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Apr 27, 2024 07:46
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Burns posted:I find it almost scammy in the way the money is utilized. I bet if UA was just given money to buy poo poo they need a lot of their material woes would be solved much faster. Like, let them buy 1000 abrams if they want to. Poland bought 250 Abrams tanks for 1 billion as comparison. Studies show that when doing aid donations whether in social programs or foreign aid, directly giving money is more effective than trying to decide what someone else needs for them; it's almost like people are pretty capable of figuring out what they need on their own better than someone who is breathing over their shoulder trying to make sure they don't spend it on the "wrong" things. The caveat to this with military aid from the US is that there is some creative accounting going on where donated stocks are listed as much lower values than their sticker price, should they be bought directly. The tradeoff here would mean less materiel overall.
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Apr 27, 2024 08:29
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redshirt posted:Is there any realistic possibility that once Ukraine gets their jets they can strike deep behind enemy lines? There's a possibility that they're not getting jets because they'll deep strike Moscow with them, and then Putin will just Dead Hand NATO as a final "gently caress you" crab bucket death move. Or there's a proviso on getting them to prevent the aforementioned. aniviron posted:Studies show that when doing aid donations whether in social programs or foreign aid, directly giving money is more effective than trying to decide what someone else needs for them; it's almost like people are pretty capable of figuring out what they need on their own better than someone who is breathing over their shoulder trying to make sure they don't spend it on the "wrong" things. The other reasons for direct monetary aid is that it's easier to prevent graft and other financial skimming of aid. There's a lot of money taken from Red Cross donations for essential things like the donation phone bank and accountants to keep track of it all, but there's also money going towards executive pay and advertising in excess of what's necessary, and for the amount pouring into Ukraine? Someone shifty could get rich, and quickly.
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Apr 27, 2024 08:53
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Mistle posted:There's a possibility that they're not getting jets because they'll deep strike Moscow with them, and then Putin will just Dead Hand NATO as a final "gently caress you" crab bucket death move. Or there's a proviso on getting them to prevent the aforementioned. What? What do you mean? They're getting F16's it's a done deal.
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Apr 27, 2024 08:58
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https://twitter.com/RealJakeBroe/status/1783973226689011730 Apparently GLSDB was tried and did not work due to jamming and also problems with using it in battlefield conditions and not a nice clean test range. Hopefully they are now working to resolve these issues, it always seemed like the perfect fit for the battle now being fought.
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Apr 27, 2024 09:06
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1784132319785173251 Mein monke..... the UMPK.......
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Apr 27, 2024 09:12
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Thank you all for posting updates on the war. I don't have a Twitter account, and most of the frontline news seems to be all posted there.
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Apr 27, 2024 09:45
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