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NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

I'm doubtful the Holodomor Thread ever existed. no proof anywhere, lots of dissenting voices in academia- don't know where conspiracy theories like this are coming from

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NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

I love to trigger the libs

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Nix Panicus posted:

Open the archives. Show us the mod forum posts discussing the holodomor thread!

It's up your butt and around the corner bud

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

There are probably degrees of recognition that start with "its like me" and ends with "it is me" and that's a bad metric as they said

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Yes SAD is having a fun one but please don't directly link to syqs

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

Stalin was worse than a “flawed” or “corrupted” communist. Rather—with the single exception of Hitler—he was the most lethal anticommunist of his time.

That's a badass way to think and it reminds me of coaching high school debate lol

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Pump

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Ftw

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

stalin ate-a the grain-a (mario making a joke in this thread)

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

i think it might be nice gassing the thread at the funniest moment related to it in a while but I also want to gas it because it upsets people and makes them flip out for reasons i kind of understand. like, I too would be pissed if I was just a dude who learned about ukraine in 2022 and stumbled onto the knowledge that their was a famine some people think was deliberately caused by the soviet union. it's hard to fault people who believe in their heart of hearts that the holodomor was a planned genocide for getting angry when people joke about it.

there's basically no way they would organically find out about all the history and debate and evidence etc. they'd need to make an educated decision on whether the famine was intentional or accidental

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

comedyblissoption posted:

people being upset at those contradicting the currently pushed state department narrative is going to happen over and over again.

if you're not aware nhd, there were multiple attempts in qcs to gas cspam or the china thread over state dept narratives on china. there was a handwringing thread created by cspam mods on what to do about all the genocide deniers in cspam.

i feel differently about calls to get this thread closed because they make sense assuming you're just an average dude who knows about ukraine the way the vast majority of left leaning online dudes do (memes and epic owns). if i was them i'd be pissed too. it's not like "they're too ignorant to know they're wrong" it's "yeah i get why they're mad because like 5 years ago I would have also been mad about this." it seems very understandable to be upset about something you really truly think is a genocide. i have less sympathy for china haters because i read Edward Said's Orientalism and think about them as super racists in addition to average guys

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

it's not an nhd decision to make anyway, just wanted to express how i felt about the people getting upset.

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Xaris posted:

why is it ok for people to get rabid frothing over that but not if they're insane sinophobic uyghur genocide fanatics? it'd be the same thing. i.e. state department told me X is doing BAD thing, ergo, it's true because the state would never lie. how can anyone be for BAD thing?? we must use posting=praxis to stop BAD thing

i think the main takeaway is people shouldn't proclaim or think they're suddenly experts because they just heard of something 9 months ago and skimmed a wikipedia article while wfh on their overpaid computer touching job

Idk, I just feel less sympathy for people who hate China I guess. Couldn't tell you why except that I've dealt with way more sinophobic shitheads in day to day life than I have anticommunist Ukraine guys

I agree with your last paragraph too

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NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Gonna goldmine this or whatever as soon as I finish writing stuff

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