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Right! Everyone is in a vessel/vehicle/aircraft of there choice. Holy poo poo do we have some variety. I'm going to break this down into zones to make it less daunting. TheDemon posted:Jesus christ Yah, this. I really need to study our full OOB. We have artillery, MLRS's, and armor/infantry. Some of it looks to be missile magnets, but there is a MLRS north of Chios that can knock out a Turkish radar site west of Izmir. We also have some "SEAL" like teams. What's here? Why are our SEAL's there? Once we unpause I think we'll find out.  At minute zero, we are unfriendly to Turkey, but not shooting. Yet. I don't plan on opening fire until ordered to. SUB CAPTAINS What do you want to do? You are all very very very quiet. Good options would be to go above, or below, the thermocline layer, or as deep as possible and give me a general course. You could also just tell me to leave you assigned to the current mission. No one is in danger right now. habeasdorkus posted:S120 Papanikolis You are between Cyprus and Beirut in 6,000 ft of water. Current depth is 306 ft, moving at 4 knots in a generally northeasternly course. The nearest unfriendly is 50nm to the north and is a drilling ship. You have 4 Harpoon UGM-84D and 12 SUT Mod 4 Torpedos. You are currently assigned to a Sea Control mission. BrotherJayne posted:S121 Pipinos You are near the island of Kasos which is 551 ft deep. Your current depth is 134.4 ft, moving at 4 knots in a northerly course. The nearest unfriendlies are to the east, about 100 nm. You have UGM-84D's and 12 torpedos. The unfriendlies to the east are in a zone we cannot currently travel in. You are assigned to a sea control mission directly to the east that extends about 100nm. Gervasius posted:S122 Matrozos You are near the island of Crete, in 1,000 ft f water. Your current depth is 134 ft, moving at 4 knots slightly easterly. The nearest unfriendlies are to the east, about 100 nm. The unfriendlies to the east are in a zone we cannot currently travel in. You are assigned to a sea control mission directly to the east that extends about 100nm. PurpleXVI posted:S123 Katsonis You are between Crete and Cyprus, the depth at your position is 8,251 ft. Your current depth is 140 ft, moving at 4 knots northerly. The nearest unfriendlies are due north at 57nm. You have UGM-84D's and 12 torpedos.The unfriendlies to the north are in a zone we cannot currently travel in. You are assigned to a sea control mission directly to the north that extends about 100nm. I'll start breaking down our AO into zones and reviewing the situation.
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S122 Matrozos will continue its assigned mission. In the event of hostilities breaking out, head east very very quietly and go hunting. Also holy poo poo this is huge OOB.
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Yooper posted:SUB CAPTAINS Southeast towards N34 E27, then heading towards Cyprus once we're over some deep water, riding just over the thermocline nice and slow
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S123 Katsonis has a new commander, a political appointee that is completely out of his depth (pun intended) and has little applicable experience except for having watched The Hunt For Red October far too many times. Intent on proving that he's absolutely a cool oceanic badass, but not quite willing to be the one who starts a shooting war over it, he orders a dive below the Thermocline Layer and continues with his current mission. But the moment things get hot, he wants to claim one of the first kills of the war. Anything that can sink is an option.
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Can I have an MLRS? Hell yah brother. You get an M270 on the island of Chios.
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Gimme a static missile magnet I'll never have to think about or give orders to.
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 We'll start in the north and work our way down south and eventually to Cyprus. East of Pt #1 we have radars and SAM's, notably a Patriot battery south of Xanthi with another at Thessaloniki. #1 is Thessaloniki Intl Airport. The air contingent here is pretty light.  These are both tasked as air intercept units and will activate when targets are sighted. I may, or may not, take the default missions. At #2 we have the island of Limnos with some infantry, garbage SAM's, an Exocet shore launcher, and an MLRS of dubious use.  Next up we have Larissa Air Base, home of the 110 TFW. It's guarded by a 1970's era SAM system.  But have we got some Falcons. About 2/3's are AIM-120C and 1/3 are AIM-65G Mavericks (big infrared guided weapon, but only 8nm range), and some JDAM's. (GPS guided bombs) These are 2000 lbs with penetrators. They will gently caress things up. Last we have Paragon in Ghost #2, they have AGM-154C JSOW's. This is a Joint Stand Off Weapon with a 63nm range, is guided by GPS, and has a penetrator. These are really nice and I wish we had more. Then we have Agxialos Airbase, the 111 TFW.  Squadron Commander Carvor runs a tight outfit. About half AAW loadout for escort, some AGM-65 birds, and a bunch of HARM's. I love HARM's because they love killing radar. These things will be huge and I plan to use them to great effect. Last we have GBU-24, 2000 lbs laser guided bombs with penetrators. The laser part is really important. There are clouds here, down to 7k ft. So in order to "lase" a target we have to either drop below the cloud cover or have someone buddy-lase it like a SEAL team on the ground.  We have another squadron with AGM-88B HARM's and more GBU's.  What do we have here? Keraunos wing is quite interesting. AIM-120C's and... DWS.39's. I love seeing this kind of poo poo. This looks like a Greek homegrown anti-runway munitions ordered from Germany but based on a Swedish design of a stand off weapon system that drops anti-runway cluster bombs. I love it.  Last we have drones, a decent quantity but I don't think these will survive long. We'll see. In the next post we'll look at the Athens area which has over 100 aircraft... 
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S120 is gonna move at 10 kts (or however fast you think I should be going to stay very quiet) just below the layer on a course towards that drilling ship. If I have a towed sonar array I would like to deploy it above the layer. If all their drilling ships are sunk by torpedoes, who can really say what nation sunk em? Maybe it was the Russians!
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MOAR PLANES!  First up at #1 we have Andravida Air Base with the 117 TFW. This is a shitload of F-4E Peace Icarus 2000. We've got AGM-65's, we've got LGB's, and we have some CAP. This is a really big strike wing, and I like it. Range wise we can cover all of Western Turkey, but not Cyprus or the Naval AO.  At #2, Araxos Air Base, 116 TFW, we have... more F-16's! A nice mix of CAP, Mav's, JDAM's, HARM's, and some interesting Recon Pods. I'm not terribly familiar with these, but it definitely looks like its intended to find and identify targets so others can Exocet them.  #3 has Elefsina AB with a pair of our Embraer AEW birds. These are really great aircraft with a 245nm radar range and a competent ELINT package. On the downside they are really squishy. (No flares or chaff)  At #4 we have CirclMastr's Squadron of M2K's. We have a shitload of Storm Shadow's, the SCALP loadout.  These are low flying cruise missiles and are pretty damned sweet. And with a 215nm range, they can get on target without risking our airframes. Beyond that we have Tevery Best and a bunch of AA loadouts with the MICA. We have one that is radar homing, and the other is IR.  We also have an Exocet transport mission with C-130H's. I'm going to need to figure out what's going on here.  And finally we have... our Exocet M2K's with Explosionface and Thatbastardken. The Exocet is a pretty great missile, but we'll have to see how capable the Turk's are at CIWS / SAM operation.  Last spot, at #5, is a small FAB with some UAV's and... more F-16's! These ones are AIM-120B, which have a significantly reduced range compared to the AIM-120C's we played with before. (27nm vs. 56 nm)  Crete has two airbases as well as a bunch of SAM's including a TOR and an SA-20A Gargoyle in proper arrangement with proper SHORAD.  Souda Airbase, #1, has a nice mix. First is a big group of LGB/GPS strikers with 500 lb bombs. Next is more HARM's. And last is a FOX contingent wielding more JSOW's. This is a really solid strike wing.  Then we have some drones and another pair of AEW's with Grumio in the commanders seat.  And more F-16's! This is a CAP heavy wing and a single pilot, Humbug Scoolbus, with a HARM.  Kasteli AB is a bit more modest with some OECM C-130's with Glynnenstein at the pilots control. Some more drones and even some SAR birds. I'm not sure if we'll do any SAR in this scenario? For the sake of brevity, we'll just say that there's a few Heliports throughout the AO scattered on the islands. We'll have HIND's working with AH-64's and Gazelle's, so that should be really cool. (Any Airgoons who fly rotor ops will be very familiar with Paphos area).
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How many ARMA devs have been mistaken for Turkish spies and arrested lately?
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I didn't realise Greece had such a big air force.
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Give me this crusty, lost infantry team.
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SIGSEGV posted:How many ARMA devs have been mistaken for Turkish spies and arrested lately? A better question is: How many perfectly innocent-looking grandpas, tourists etc. have, over the last few years, been arrested observing and/or photographing Greek military bases & installations, and have been proven to spy for various foreign agencies? The answer to that is: Uncomfortably too many. And in related news: https://twitter.com/elicoh1/status/1640768894108352513 Dimitris fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Mar 31, 2023 |
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distortion park posted:I didn't realise Greece had such a big air force. Like Israel, a clear and present threat tends to do that to you.
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Dimitris posted:Like Israel, a clear and present threat tends to do that to you. Tell me about the Cuban air force
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Tactical dumbass incoming. Would it be possible/an okay idea to try to rebase some planes on Crete to try to reduce subsequent flight times/times on target? I know nothing about the finer points of this business. Our timeline may be tight enough that it may not make any difference. Either way, Thiseas 1 is ready to help start the world's largest Turkish bath when the word is given! o7
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If anything rebasing planes to Crete is going to increase flight times for any purpose other than defending Crete.
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Explosionface posted:
I can look, but the total time is 36 hours. So we can ferry, but then have downtime. Technically this scenario doesn't have ammo stores checked, but it'd be kind of gamey if we went somewhere unintended. My hunch is moving aircraft to Crete would be a slight time savings without much long term benefit for strike depth.
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Get me in a jet, commander! I wanna FLY!
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Yooper posted:I can look, but the total time is 36 hours. So we can ferry, but then have downtime. Technically this scenario doesn't have ammo stores checked, but it'd be kind of gamey if we went somewhere unintended. My hunch is moving aircraft to Crete would be a slight time savings without much long term benefit for strike depth. And that's kind of where I was figuring it was a bad idea, but figured I'd ask regardless.
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Explosionface posted:And that's kind of where I was figuring it was a bad idea, but figured I'd ask regardless. It's actually a great question and solid idea. Some scenarios require you to do this as well as cargo move ammo and such.
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quote:Commander a strong naval force has been monitored near Cyprus. Several Turkish naval ships have been gathered around the Fatih (Conqueror) and Yavuz Drilling Sea Drilling ship. These Massive Platforms have begun drillings inside Cyprus Exclusive Economic Zone. Additionaly, the Turkish Air Force provides them with air support. Let's break this down. 1. Sink explorer vessels and drilling ships. 2. Conduct a multi spectral alpha strike, but the Turk's are also going to pre-emptively strike us? That is a mouthful.  quote:Check the no-fly zones between Crete and Cyprus. For these areas, Turkey have published navtex that they will conduct Live Fire Exercises and anyone in the vicinity of these area might be condidered as hostile. This sounds like the trigger to make everyone angry. The Imia incident is worth a quick read too. quote:Commander, your main mission is to find and destroy the Turkish Drilling ships along with a number of Sea Explorer vessels. This action will send a strong message to the Turkish side to withdraw from Cyprus EEZ. Recon is a primary priority. Turkey has an unfriendly posture but the TDK (turkish navy) have declared that it would not hesitate to shoot first if you are flying close to the Platforms and Explorer Ships (check No-Navigation Zones). Also avoid flying over turkish soil (Turkish Mainland) as this will be seen as hostile activity. You might have to use your submarines to get a closer look around the platform if you manage to stay undetected. A big number of civillian ships are passing through the contested area. Avoid any collateral damage as this will cause us international political losses . Inflict maximum damage to the turkish naval presence but remember that your High value target is the drilling ship itself! 1. Recon is a primary priority. 2. Use our subs to get a closer look. 3. Inflict maximum damage to the Turkish navy, but focus on the drilling platform. 4. Possibly move to Kastelli and use our M2K's from there, we can use a beefier loadout but at the risk of time.  quote:EXECUTION Well, that's it?  The S400's are a big problem. We have HARM's, but beyond that we are sucking. These things will eat up our SCALP's too. Two Questions. 1. Do we rebase the M2K to get longer legs? 2. Do we pre-emptively strike Turkey immediately on a wide front, or wait until our M2K's are ready for engagement? This may mean we are defending against incoming bogies. If we engage immediately we may be able to knock out Turkish airfields and seriously reduce the threat they pose.
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1. No, we're on a clock here. 2. Hit everything we can fix right now, as fast as possible. That should make it easier to find the HVTs.
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Is anything in range for me to sink? Can I GET in range of any targets that can be sunk?
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IMO we should hit the S400s to make the Americans happy. This will put us in an advantageous position to both play the victim and grift the reconstruction contracts after Turkey retaliates by bombing Athens. E: this is not a serious suggestion, those things are going to chew up anything we throw at them E Depois do Adeus fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Apr 1, 2023 |
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E Depois do Adeus posted:E: this is not a serious suggestion, those things are going to chew up anything we throw at them Give them a choice: shoot down our strike craft going for the drilling platforms and their navy, or shoot down the hail of HARMs coming right at them.
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Should we get the Subs to do the Naval objectives and get the airplanes to do the ground and air stuff. Since we need to positively identify the ships since it won't do if we hit a neutral ship.
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Current plan is we'll do an OCA strike coordinated with that S-400 strike. Hopefully it'll significantly degrade the Turkish air response. I'll have our subs move to where the ships were known to be, as well as our MPA. I had intended to be a day ahead but we had a mondo snowstorm today and Starlink doesn't like the snow.
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By the way, does the scenario have anything regarding first strikes and windmill slams of NATO article 5?
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Yooper posted:Current plan is we'll do an OCA strike coordinated with that S-400 strike. Hopefully it'll significantly degrade the Turkish air response. I'll have our subs move to where the ships were known to be, as well as our MPA. Hows LoS for that S-400s radar from its rough location? Can any terrain take advantage of the new sensor-elevation/terrain features the devs added?
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Dandywalken posted:Hows LoS for that S-400s radar from its rough location? Can any terrain take advantage of the new sensor-elevation/terrain features the devs added? It's not a good idea to activate this feature on any scenario not built with it explicitly in mind. Or else you'll soon run into "my radar is in the middle of a forest or suburban sprawl and cannot see anything" issues.
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habeasdorkus posted:How many SAMs can a S-400 system put up before they need rearming? If we have enough HARMs could we be able to make them focus on protecting their own radars over shooting down our strike? My hunch is we don't have enough HARM's to run it out of ammo. Maybe enough F-16's, but not enough HARM's.  It's just past midnight on a balmy June night when the order comes down. STRIKE! We have a bunch of pre-made missions, some of which we'll keep, others we'll leave as inactive, and others we'll delete and start from scratch. Initially we'll get up CAP, AEW, and drone recon. Once we have a better ELINT picture then we can better plan our attack. As much as I'd like to just yolo it into Turkey, we at least need more targeting data.   First off we get a ton of pings from surface units southwest of Cyprus. There is a very dense cluster of Turkish navy south, and west of Cyprus. My hunch is one is guarding the research vessel, the other is guarding the drilling rig. Note our subs are below comms and will follow last orders until summoned to the surface.  We get rotary contacts, likely ASW for the Turks. About the same time we get up our ASW  Our recon team spots a Seahawk as well as a maritime patrol aircraft at Dalaman. This is good to know as we can ignore this for our OCA strike.  We get our first actual aircraft up. Our CAP launches as well and heads for position. After a few minutes we see they are F-16's.  10 minutes in and we've got at least 16 Turkish fighters up.  Out of Dalaman we get a pair of S-70's and an MPA. This would all be an ASW / Maritime Patrol sweep.  Now there's a juicy prize. Turkish Wedgetail. That thing has a radar range to Cairo in the south to Athens in the west.  Note to self, do not cross the sea on the dilapidated MV Kitty Kat. That thing looks like insurance fraud waiting to happen.  At 0032 we get an interesting intel update.  Oof, 100nm range.  A second Wedgetail appears in the west.  Moon Slayer picks up what I think is one of the research vessels with a hefty escort.  Meanwhile Knightrider #1 gets a good camera fix on a large and angry cluster Turkish ships. By the end of the first hour we have a ton of target data, but nothing on the MLRS systems or the S-400. Yooper fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Apr 4, 2023 |
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Oh, I should have realized I'd have to come up to comms depth to get new orders. S120 would like to do that, then carry out the previously mentioned orders.
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dervinosdoom posted:How are going to defend against the entire Turkish military? Akhilleus Akhilleus Akhilleus Fun fact: Troy is apparently located in modern-day Turkiye. Requesting some units/formations get named after Trojan War heroes
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