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Slavvy posted:Needs to say the n-word to keep pace though Are you sure that would make him less popular?
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Wonder what Jamie Lee Ross is up to these days. Oh god. https://www.newsroom.co.nz/from-politician-to-pimp-the-transformation-of-jami-lee-ross
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Mar 17, 2023 04:29
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When everyone was telling him to get hosed he thought it was business advice.
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Mar 17, 2023 04:44
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Generally conditions for sex workers are overlooked and few if any complaints make it to court, even then the bias makes it near impossible to get a successful prosecution. Hopefully the absolute hatred for Ross on the right will set a precedent.
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Mar 17, 2023 05:27
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lol i thought the url was some sort of joke or metaphor but he’s literally a pimp now
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Mar 17, 2023 05:48
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We be big pimpin', we ex-MPs
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Mar 17, 2023 07:50
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is it too soon to change the tread title? Aotearoa Newzealand Politics: From politician to pimp
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Mar 17, 2023 08:14
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I know it sounds funny, but if you read the article it mentions exploitation, physical and sexual assault. I'd rather our title did not make light of any of that.
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Mar 17, 2023 08:48
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Content to Hover posted:I'd rather our title did not make light of any of that. username/post combo
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Mar 17, 2023 08:52
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Did nobody play Star Control 2.
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Mar 17, 2023 08:59
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Yes, but if it isn't Brave Captain Fwiffo I don't wanna hear about it
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Mar 17, 2023 09:13
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Content to Hover posted:Did nobody play Star Control 2. Hold! What you are posting is wrong! Why do you post this thing?
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Mar 17, 2023 09:22
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Content to Hover posted:I know it sounds funny, but if you read the article it mentions exploitation, physical and sexual assault. I'd rather our title did not make light of any of that. I wasn't suggesting it purely for humour value. More of a laugh so you don't cry/look how awful (some of) our politicians are sort of thing. Like joking about Trump's "grab em by the pussy" thing. Joking about how awful it is is not the same thing as "making light" of sexual assault.
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Mar 17, 2023 09:25
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Wafflecopper posted:I wasn't suggesting it purely for humour value. More of a laugh so you don't cry/look how awful (some of) our politicians are sort of thing. Like joking about Trump's "grab em by the pussy" thing. Joking about how awful it is is not the same thing as "making light" of sexual assault. Fair enough, I didn't intend it to be accusatory and was probably overreacting.
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Mar 17, 2023 09:36
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Content to Hover posted:Fair enough, I didn't intend it to be accusatory and was probably overreacting. No no no you double down and post through it, have you learnt nothing
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Mar 17, 2023 09:42
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Content to Hover posted:Fair enough, I didn't intend it to be accusatory and was probably overreacting. It's okay, given the subject matter it was an understandable response and in hindsight maybe it's not the best thing for a blithe thread title
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Mar 17, 2023 09:44
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exmachina posted:Yes, but if it isn't Brave Captain Fwiffo I don't wanna hear about it Anticheese posted:Hold! What you are posting is wrong! Why do you post this thing? Your presence here fills us with excitement!
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Mar 17, 2023 10:30
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https://twitter.com/FrankMcRae/status/1636608813582401536
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Mar 17, 2023 10:33
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Content to Hover posted:Your presence here fills us with excitement! Juffo-Wup fills in my fibers and I grow turgid. Violent action ensues.
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Mar 17, 2023 13:14
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exmachina posted:Juffo-Wup fills in my fibers and I grow turgid. Violent action ensues. Jumping *peppers*!! This is *smiley* time! You are *campers* after all!! We will start alliance *parties* for better enjoyment!
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Mar 17, 2023 14:57
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I was trying to remember this oval office's name so I went to the national party website and holy poo poo how do they have so many MPs who look like their skin isn't properly attached to their skull
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Mar 17, 2023 19:43
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bike tory posted:I was trying to remember this oval office's name so I went to the national party website and holy poo poo how do they have so many MPs who look like their skin isn't properly attached to their skull I don't find their names to be all that important. It's not like you're going to find one that doesn't follow the tax-cut, service-cut, welfare-cut, tough-on-crime template. The occasional pimp, perhaps.
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Mar 17, 2023 21:22
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I wonder what the perfect level of taxation is
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Mar 17, 2023 21:44
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Apocalyptic
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Mar 17, 2023 21:50
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No I mean you only hear lower taxes lower taxes lower taxes you never hear what the actual correct amount is
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Mar 17, 2023 22:02
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Zero, people made that money through their own hard work and society didn't contribute at all because it doesn't exist outside of individual actors in a shared vacuum.
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Mar 17, 2023 22:05
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The perfect tax is zero tax because the state already owns everything and private property is abolished 
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Mar 17, 2023 23:09
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:No I mean you only hear lower taxes lower taxes lower taxes you never hear what the actual correct amount is That's a good question. One of the things I like about the Living Wage concept is that it's an actual measure of what it would cost for someone to work a standard full time job and not have to have a lovely life as a result. There's probably a few similar calculations you could make for tax rates, although it would be significantly more complicated. You'd look at what acceptable targets were across all services, transport, health etc and look at the funding that would be required to meet those targets. That would get difficult in getting agreement on what targets should be, and costing the solutions would probably involve spending money on designs that will never be implemented with the goal of working out what a theoretical tax rate should be. That would actually be an incredibly valuable piece of information that could influence future policy decisions, but... "lol, Labour's consultants and working groups, just bring back 3 strikes. I am very smart."
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Mar 17, 2023 23:56
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Spyderizer posted:That's a good question. Its almost like they've never actually thought about it :shh:
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Third-way ideology fundamentally precludes thinking critically about tax because one of its core premises is that private industry is better at providing services, ipso facto, the government should offload services to private industry and not need more than a bare minimum to fund oversight by captured regulatory groups.
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Wafflecopper posted:The perfect tax is zero tax because the state already owns everything and private property is abolished
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Ghostlight posted:Third-way ideology I had to google that phase. Why is everything left vs right, this isn't the states and issues aren't monolithically bipartisan by design. Like, is improving transport infrastructure antithetical to which party exactly? Keeping household pets from demolishing local fauna might be a Green party issue, but if that makes them left, who's opposing that on the right? (As much as I'm anti-National I don't think they've taken that line.) This isn't a troll question, as I feel a lot of talking points are just echos of the US's culture dominance. From decades ago, I recall in Argentina a radical party was calling for the absolution of international debts, was that left since it's radically anti-business, or right since it's grossly isolationist? etc.
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i am specifically referring to third way economics, an ideological alignment that labour ministers have specifically named when discussing their goals and frames of reference for policy, citing foreign politicians very well identified with third way economics such as bill clinton, and tony blair; espousing the values of private and public sector partnership in the structure of the economy wherein the public sector seeks a more passive role in favour of the market-driven efficiencies of the right rather than the more active role the socialist left sought at the time.
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Serephina posted:Like, is improving transport infrastructure antithetical to which party exactly? Keeping household pets from demolishing local fauna might be a Green party issue, but if that makes them left, who's opposing that on the right? (As much as I'm anti-National I don't think they've taken that line.) these are examples of vague policy outcomes, not ideological positions. should transport infrastructure be improved by selling it off to more efficient private operators and letting them set tolls, or by nationalising fulton hogan and downer into a new ministry of works? what does "improving" transport infrastructure mean – making things faster for private vehicles? expanding the range of mode options available to people? should the government incentivise remote communities in tairāwhiti to relocate away from natural hazards so that transport investment can be focused on high-population centres, or does the state have a duty to enable people to keep living on their whenua? how should infrastructure financing be shared between central and local government?
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exmarx posted:these are examples of vague policy outcomes, not ideological positions. I was being intentionally vague, but yea I mean exactly, some of those approaches can be tagged as left or right, but some are just more party-specific objectives whose opposition doesn't immediately make everyone involved fall into certain ideological buckets. I think a good example is the Green party a couple of decades ago; strict anti-pollution measures are left, but they also opposed abortion (!?), so if they gotten to be a majority party (hah) which label would we have used on them? Constantly hearing left vs right feels reductive, and frankly as I said before kinda like importing terminology with its own baggage.
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That's because you've been taught wrong about what left and right actually mean, on purpose
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Slavvy posted:That's because you've been taught wrong about what left and right actually mean, on purpose What do they mean
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Mar 18, 2023 06:25
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Pro capital vs pro labour afaik, at least in the modern day now that we haven't got whigs and royalists and poo poo
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Labour is only nominally on the left as National is on the right. Both parties primary goal is to get elected, if three strikes assured a win Labour would rebrand and justify it, as National would for three waters. Not to say that individuals within these parties hold nothing sacred. The vast majority of New Zealanders vote for one of these two parties not just for promised benefits, but for the guarantee that they will largely maintain the status quo. Rapid change is scary and suggests that prior behaviour was wrong, thus the voter was wrong. Telling people that they are wrong is seldom productive.
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