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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Fourth best op

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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



nothing will ever happen to our housing stock

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



If Labour needs them for a coalition they bargain the same way NZ First does - by agreeing to form a coalition with someone so that a government can be made. The fact that the Greens won't form a coalition with National doesn't mean it's not leverage because the leverage would still be that Labour needs them to form a government.
IMO they just historically underuse this leverage because the alternative is a National government that will actively undermine and reverse their policies rather than a Labour government that might throw them whatever beans Winston will allow.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Every single election we get the punters telling people not to vote for Greens because they're economically dangerous or whatever, then they talk about how the Greens should just eat crow and side with big boy National, then it's about how weak the formed coalition with the Greens is and how Labor can't make any mistakes because of how fragile all those partnerships are.

It's all just dumb window dressing to the core message which is that the party who actually wants to do progress shouldn't be in power because progress now comes at the expense of the rich and powerful. But believe it or not the Greens aren't the only party in Parliament who don't want a National government and are willing to work with others to prevent it.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



winnie 'the scorpion' peters

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



i have a coworker who is in his thirties and votes for national because his parents told him to when he got the vote.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Apocalyptic

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Zero, people made that money through their own hard work and society didn't contribute at all because it doesn't exist outside of individual actors in a shared vacuum.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Third-way ideology fundamentally precludes thinking critically about tax because one of its core premises is that private industry is better at providing services, ipso facto, the government should offload services to private industry and not need more than a bare minimum to fund oversight by captured regulatory groups.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



i am specifically referring to third way economics, an ideological alignment that labour ministers have specifically named when discussing their goals and frames of reference for policy, citing foreign politicians very well identified with third way economics such as bill clinton, and tony blair; espousing the values of private and public sector partnership in the structure of the economy wherein the public sector seeks a more passive role in favour of the market-driven efficiencies of the right rather than the more active role the socialist left sought at the time.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



klen dool posted:

Maybe this is a silly question but why can't a coalition hate each other guts? What if we are put into a position where the only viable govt is Nat/Green for some reason. Is that even possible? Is that why there is a 5% votes threshold to stop that scenario?
the 5% threshold is to undemocratically omit "minority" voices from parliament on the grounds that any kind of ideology that doesn't have a quarter of a million people interested in it isn't worth platforming politically. unless it's gifted an electorate by a political ally.

it is very possible to have a coalition that hates each other but our government is structured around being stable, ensuring you can deliver votes for your policies; something that is somewhat more difficult when the votes you're relying on want to see you suffer. a government that couldn't rely on its majority would quickly see the opposition calling for a no confidence vote.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Fool me once, shame on me, fool me... can't get fooled again.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



🌈 Neoliberalism 🌈

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



the motivation is that they see all the same things wrong with the world that everyone else sees but where a leftist sees capitalism as the cause of poverty they see the poor as the cause of criticisms of capital. because societies and systems don't exist, only individuals labouring under frameworks of restriction like "you can't say the n word" or "what do you mean i have to pay you not to work for four weeks"

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



bomber continuing to drop deuces.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



brown out here admitting nobody's ever invited him to an industry conference so he has no idea how they work

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



you get what you paid for and some dumbass paid $1 for it

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Can't believe Eggs Malone is out here serving us sunny side up.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Oh, just like Luxon sits down and talks to everyone who disagrees with him.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Human rights are for winners - Michael Wood.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



To all white cis men, I say I'm sorry.




Sorry you're responsible for most of the violence!

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



:actually:

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



i think someone left a kettle on

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



"this whole company is doing so badly" - yeah, tova, i don't know if you noticed this while doing all your reporting but mediaworks has had its head underwater for like a decade now, so pardon me if i don't join you in surprise that they're jettisoning a radio station that hasn't turned a profit since it started.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Acab

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Wafflecopper posted:

I have a ... friend
lie detected

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



have you ever tried rearranging something that doesn't exist

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



ACT has announced their policy platform for this election. Spoiler: it's Māori bashin' time

https://www.act.org.nz/press-releases/free-press-3-april-2023

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



If only we could like, take some money from those who have a lot, rather than just blaming the people working in the economy we built where if people don't work they die.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Captured market economics.

Inflation is caused by too much money in the system. The prevailing economic theory is that you want some inflation because it helps with debts and incentivises investment, but you don't can't have too much and you want it predictable because otherwise people would lose faith in the currency and it would devalue.

Now, employment is a market. Just like all market goods, the price of an employee is dictated largely by supply and demand. When unemployment is "too low" then the price of an employee (theoretically) rises commensurately. This is, in my opinion, not very true because our economic system is predicated on the majority of people not being in the position to market themselves and often surviving simply from lowest bidder to lowest bidder; and almost nobody's wages are adjusted on a day-to-day basis in response for the demand of their labour so they will be locked in at a price dictated sometime in the past.

When inflation is going too high, economists look to all their metrics to see which ones will extract money from the economy. If you increase unemployment then the supply of employees to be hired goes up and the price of each unit is suppressed. This is how you extract money from unemployment, because those employees hired at suppressed rates will be at that suppressed rate probably until they move jobs, which is harder to do when there's a lot of cheap employees.
High unemployment means lower wages. Lower wages means lower spending power. Lower spending power means less money circulating in the economy

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



ghahraman looks like she'd be fun to gossip with.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



look, i'm sure that local councils are any minute now going to start rigorously applying the national policy statement for freshwater 2020 and we'll see a huge turn-around in water quality. i mean, the only other alternative i can see is to move local freshwater assets to some kind of - and i'm just spitballing ideas here - larger central management agency to ensure standards are applied equally across electorates.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I'm told the Scene apartments are very affordable.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Xik posted:

Imagine being tech support for that fuckwit
tbh it's not much of a stretch.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Booty Pageant posted:

i just remembered from a friday night banter, me and a mate have come to the conclusion that we're all just a bunch of soft cunts

the french would burn their own country down
in asia they'll corporal punish the poor
americans just shoot each other
we complain and do nothing
i don't think we're soft per se but that white nzers have a cultural value of individual resilience that keep middle nzers from investing too much in changing anything. like, why worry about the climate when a bit of number eight wire will get the fence back together, except the number eight wire is something that the farming industry will just promise will arrive until the fence falls down.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Xik posted:

Time is an integral component to how modern civilization works, you can't opt out of it and expect to interact with the rest of it.
someone tell tradespeople this.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I don't arrive on time for my office job and they don't ask me to because then I leave on time.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Bill English also spent the entire decade he was finance minister trying to run NZ as a low-wage economy as part of a plan to attract foreign investment in industry. Oh hey, and John Key despite all his "high wage" talk also directly destroyed worker and union protections that enabled them to actually bargain for those high wages. The reality is that the vaunted low-wage economy never came into effect because no international company wants to locate their low-wage jobs in a corner of the world where all those gains would be immediately eaten up and exceeded by shipping costs but we still got the low-wages.

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