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NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf
A less friendly way of looking at it is: because smaller parties tend to suffer in the next election after going in coalition with a bigger party. Labour may have hugged the Greens, with the intention of trying to smother them out.

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NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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bike tory posted:

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/05/25/revealed-nationals-rejected-ai-attack-ads/

Interesting insight into the attack ads they were/are planning to run. One guess as to who "TG creative" is lol

No idea what the gently caress this one was going to be though


Who's TG?

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf
Meanwhile, what actual 14 lane highways look like

https://twitter.com/g_meslin/status/1003653864330092544

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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Hands of four homes

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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Your Brain on Hugs posted:

Could have just spent those billions to get Xi in here and sort out some high speed rail up and down the whole country. Have him sort out the landlord problem while he's at it.

I have bad news about how many landlords there are in China these days

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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Progressive JPEG posted:

if instead of a second mt vic tunnel they instead did a tunnel under/north of the basin reserve i think it'd be pretty good actually



soil is probably pretty poo poo through there though

The soil is incredibly poo poo!

There's a reason it's called the Basin:

quote:

The reserve had originally been a shallow lagoon linked to the harbour by a stream. However, the 1855 earthquake lifted Te Aro Flat two metres, and two years later a group of citizens succeeded in getting the provincial government to set the land aside as a cricket ground and public park.

This is why that bit of land and Kent/Cambridge Terrace (the old stream) look so weird.

The original plan was to make it deeper and turn it into a canal/port/drydock. Until the earthquake put the kibosh on that.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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klen dool posted:

When I say I think he SIS are lying, I mean I can only assume they are lying about the things they specifically are saying, because they've given me no reason to trust them apart from "certain states don't share.our values. Anyway China blaa blaa" and thats hosed.

Oh they're absolutely telling the truth, of course all those nations are trying to influence things in other states to their own advantage.

The lie is omitting in the statement who else has been doing that to us, and only including those 3.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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klen dool posted:

Also think about it, super markets can't exist without cars because no one is buying a week of groceries all at once then carrying them home unless you have a cargo bike or something and you only need a cargo bike to replace a car in that scenario - it's a hack to get a bike to replace a car.

Incorrect, when you live in walking distance of a supermarket, it's easier to make the grocery run something you need for the next couple of days only.

When I was living in Wellington, I was walking to the Chaffers New World twice a week. Yes that does have it's own parking lot (small by NZ supermarket standards), but I guarantee the majority of their customers do not use it.

When I moved to Montreal, I also had walking-distance supermarkets. But despite being in denser urban areas than Te Aro, they had even smaller and far less used parking lots.

In fact when I moved into the downtown core, my 40+ storey apartment building had a supermarket on the 2nd floor. The underground parking for the apartment building had about 10 spaces reserved for the supermarket, but I have no idea who would even be using that. Building residents got their own elevator entrance to the supermarket, which owned. You could get groceries without ever having to go outside. Especially important in -30C winters, and funny to be walking around there in shorts and sandals while others are shopping in huge jackets and snow boots.

References:

https://goo.gl/maps/ovsjZLAmmk7W58H56 Supermarket in the Plateau, which is about as "Medium housing density, public transit oriented, duplex/sixplex everywhere paradise" as you can get in North America

https://goo.gl/maps/JhvBg86kyrMWRfks5 Supermarket in the downtown core, across the street from a hockey stadium, and surrounded by office and apartment towers.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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Hair Elf
The line was "supermarkets will cease to exist without cars" which is very wrong and why I provided arguments.

Now, "Suburbs will cease to exist without cars" is another matter entirely. Especially in the 4 bedroom brick&tile on cul-de-sac sections that blew up everywhere in the 90s and 2000s in NZ.

You can still actually do pretty decent "kind of suburban" style living, with backyards and big houses, and still get decent densities out of it, allowing for effective transit options that aren't cars. For this example, I'll present my current neighbourhood in Montreal: NDG

https://goo.gl/maps/tkC572Xa5AtUKJyw7

Typical street in streetview: https://goo.gl/maps/LRbDvEeU2RmpDPFx5

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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echinopsis posted:

does that argument stack up in traditional subsistence cultures? probably not, for the majority of abled bodied people at least

Find a traditional subsistence culture that doesn't take care of its sick or elderly or infants.

Never forget that "work" isn't just labour paid for by someone richer than you. Everything we do to take care of ourselves and others is work, and a lot of that is not paid.

"You are not in paid work, therefore you must be Doing Nothing" is a pervasive lie.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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Weatherman posted:

the strain on the health system would be less (next generation) if children could get fed properly, have a stable home life, and receive ability-based education so that kids with big brains and lovely living situations would actually have the ability to become doctors

This is an important point. Right now a medical education is gatekept behind a huge financial barrier. To even start down that path, you need access to the best private schools to get the high school marks you need to get accepted.

So we've automatically filtered out smart, hard-working kids who just happened to be poor. Now we only have the pool of rich kids to pick from.

Oops, the shrinking middle class means that's an ever smaller pool of kids to sample from. Also, those same kids are looking at the huge amount of effort required to get in, plus the massive workload once they do succeed, and realise very simply that a life of working in finance or computer touching is going to reward them more for less effort. None of which actually aid society.

BTW, a ubi still means work is paid for, some more than others. There's no reason a doctor wouldn't be well paid in a socialist utopia, they'd be providing a value service to society after all. But we put too many barriers in the way of getting there, and reward less useful things more.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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We do it by financialising housing and water

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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Feeling super bummed that I have to sit this election out. It's been over 3 years since I was last in the country.

Not yet a citizen here in Canada, so fully disenfranchised from democracy right now!

The 3 year time limit is probably related to the length of the election cycle? Because it sure takes far more than 3 years to get citizenship anywhere else.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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quote:

After the 2023 General Election the eligibility criteria will change back to the previous settings of 3 years for New Zealand citizens and 12 months for New Zealand permanent residents.

What the gently caress? This text was NOT there when I was being email prodded about my enrolment status a couple of months back!

gently caress! Better sort my info out then! Glad I complained to strangers on the internet!

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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Lobsterpillar posted:

Driving a wee bit slower isn't less safe for everything, except possibly in exceptional circumstances (high speed narrow rural roads with tight blind bends).

Ah yes, the exception to NZ's notoriously straight, wide multi-lane roads.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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bike tory posted:

Sure, but it was also paid for by a tax on corporates and other rich cunts (levy on high emissions vehicles), and had the effect of increasing uptake of EVs with a flow on effect of an increase in supply of more affordable second hand EVs in 5 or so years time.

There's also a bootstrapping issue of getting supporting infrastructure in place (chargers, mechanics, etc) that won't happen on its own due to "lack of demand" which then feeds into people not buying electric because "I don't see supporting infrastructure around"

I'm living in Québec and there are huge numbers of electric cars here, helped in part by subsidies. (and crazy cheap, hydro electricy)

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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echinopsis posted:

:smugmrgw:

there are a lot of good points here and I don’t necessarily disagree with much at all, but it’s also an extremely cynical point of view. only time will tell how these pan out.


I certainly didn’t vote for these mother fuckers. not that I was happy with how labour was doing things and this will likely be worse, but I have to maintain some level of optimism that some things might be of benefit

We're cynical because we've seen the history of this stuff, it's all happened before, and they're doing the same things again. We don't need time to see how it pans out, we have history for that.

You are not someone they want to benefit, they see you benefiting as a loss to them. They want to maximise their own gains, and they see that coming at your expense only.

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NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

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Spyderizer posted:

Pumped hydro is out. I guess their mates are pro energy scarcity.

Energy companies make more money from NOT providing electricity! :science:

Free market economics is the most efficient way of assigning scarce resources! So if demand exceeds supply, you can just charge more for the exact same supply! Why would you ever invest in increasing supply in such an environment when you make make more profit for free?!

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