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 Episode 19 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Where a Blade Roosts
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Scarodactyl posted:Huh, I was linked your youtube videos directly and didn't even know there was a thread. I'm enjoying these a lot. Daggerfall is just an agglomeration of baffling design decisions. Things like the random traps draining your magic into negatives without you noticing, or the rumbling death trap(?) at the end of that hall, or the weird mechanism that didn't seem to do anything. I'm so glad you have the patience for this because I never did even though I loved the game as a kid. Yeah the game could use a bit more feedback at times. I guess magicka draining traps makes sense. Luckily it was more of a minor inconvenience in this case. As for the stone, maybe I threw it away or didn't pick it up the first time, I can't remember. Or maybe it did, in fact, bug out. Either way I think the ship has sailed for that quest, timewise. Good to know for the future, though. I'll have to make sure I take / inspect everything if we ever end up with a similar quest. AbstractHero posted:The Betony section honestly has me pretty fascinated, to think it just was not in the base game at all! This is probably stuff that was not at all covered anywhere else, I'd love to see even more of it frankly beyond the few episodes you did of it honestly! Regarding that, it seems that I was incorrect. I read something that said it wasn't in the main game (or misremembered or misunderstood what I read) at the time I was playing the demo, but it looks like we can get there after all. That said, after looking into it a bit more, the island in the demo is supposed to have different locations to explore compared to the full release. I'm not sure if that means it's totally different, or if it has extra stuff tacked on, or what. Hopefully we'll be heading that way soon to see what's what, at which point I'll add a correction to my original Betony video to help avoid future confusion.
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Jun 24, 2023 00:44
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I don't know about other locations but the main difference I noticed between the demo and full version is that the capital city of Betony is not available in the full game, but is in the demo.
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Jun 24, 2023 04:12
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 Episode 20 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Claiming a Claymore
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Jun 27, 2023 01:36
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 Episode 21 - Daggerfall (DOS) - The Terrible Geriblorgon
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Jul 1, 2023 00:42
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The Geriblorgon quest is really funny--a pretty nice setup for a generic sprite that wasn't even selected right. Probably one of those things where they envisioned quests with customized sprites and more depth in general but they were in way too deep and already burning through artists. Iirc only a couple of the 30+ artists that worked on the project made it to the end thanks to increasing demands for assets and changing goals. I read an interview with one of the artists like ten years ago that I'd love to find again, it was really interesting.
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Jul 8, 2023 05:02
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 Episode 22 - Daggerfall (DOS) - M'urht's Missive
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Jul 8, 2023 20:14
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Scarodactyl posted:The Geriblorgon quest is really funny--a pretty nice setup for a generic sprite that wasn't even selected right. Probably one of those things where they envisioned quests with customized sprites and more depth in general but they were in way too deep and already burning through artists. Iirc only a couple of the 30+ artists that worked on the project made it to the end thanks to increasing demands for assets and changing goals. I read an interview with one of the artists like ten years ago that I'd love to find again, it was really interesting. Yeah I was certainly a bit surprised at the outcome of that quest. If you manage to dig up that interview at some point, feel free to post it. It sounds interesting. Actually, I guess that goes for anyone who has interviews or other similar official info to share regarding the game's development. Not to get too off topic, but for those interested, Tim Cain (Fallout, etc) started a YouTube channel recently, and he's been sharing some of the inside baseball related to the games he's worked on. I suspect he may not have liked my question about why The Outer Worlds shipped without, and is still missing fully implemented keybinds, but some of the stories have been pretty cool. If there's anything like that for Daggerfall, I'm interested, though I may not look too closely at it until after I finish the DOS playthrough.
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Jul 8, 2023 20:26
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M'uhrter most foul
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Jul 9, 2023 20:28
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rojovision posted:Yeah I was certainly a bit surprised at the outcome of that quest. If you manage to dig up that interview at some point, feel free to post it. It sounds interesting. Actually, I guess that goes for anyone who has interviews or other similar official info to share regarding the game's development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGLGi5RK8V8 Now it's been a couple years since I watched this, but it seemed pretty good.
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Jul 10, 2023 19:15
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 Episode 23 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Mage's Guild Missions
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Scarodactyl posted:M'uhrter most foul Ha, good one. Thanks for the link.
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Jul 14, 2023 20:16
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 Episode 24 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Merciless Magickary
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Jul 17, 2023 23:59
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 Episode 25 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Queen Akorithi's Scheme
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Jul 25, 2023 13:45
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 Episode 26 - Daggerfall (DOS) - The Wayrest Heist Begins
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Aug 1, 2023 03:16
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Even for daggerfall this place is a confusing maze. Thanks for playing it so I don't have to.
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Aug 2, 2023 03:51
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 Episode 27 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Wayrest Dungeon North
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Aug 9, 2023 03:16
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Scarodactyl posted:Even for daggerfall this place is a confusing maze. Thanks for playing it so I don't have to. Yep, I'd say that's accurate. The changes in elevation in particular make the map extremely difficult to use here.
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Aug 9, 2023 03:17
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 Episode 28 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Strokes of Murder
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Aug 14, 2023 20:52
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This one was so weird. It started with a huge, completely pointless procedural maze, followed by a nice sequence of bite-size rooms with small secrets linked by teleporters in a neat short series that also led nowhere, followed by more, slightly better maze. At least it had a cool-looking room at the end even if it didn't have much actually in it. Daggerfall is a complete mess but I can't look away.
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Aug 15, 2023 03:48
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 Episode 29 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Ghostly Barrow
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Aug 18, 2023 16:58
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Scarodactyl posted:This one was so weird. It started with a huge, completely pointless procedural maze, followed by a nice sequence of bite-size rooms with small secrets linked by teleporters in a neat short series that also led nowhere, followed by more, slightly better maze. At least it had a cool-looking room at the end even if it didn't have much actually in it. Daggerfall is a complete mess but I can't look away. I like the concept for the quest, but I think the designers' creativity outdid what the game's technology could handle. Some consequences for killing guards would have been interesting. Maybe there are and we haven't seen them yet, but I doubt it. I'd say some kind of reward for stealthing through the dungeon undetected would be cool, but I don't think the game's sneaking is complex enough to make that fun. Like you were getting at, some tighter level design couldn't hurt either. That said, one benefit of how things are is that finding the more unique rooms seems to pretty reliably hint that you're on the right track.
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Aug 18, 2023 17:10
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 Episode 30 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Underking Undertaking
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Aug 22, 2023 22:01
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 Episode 31 - Daggerfall (DOS) - A Corroborating Story
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 Episode 32 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Akatosh's Lost Loon
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 Episode 33 - Daggerfall (DOS) - The Lost Digger
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Sep 11, 2023 20:09
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Is there any way to get a whole lot bigger mana pool, or is it mostly a matter of improving your skill in the school so the spells are cheaper to cast? Do you know how many main/quest-designed dungeons there are? Seems like we're more than halfway through, if I had to guess (assuming you can choose to side with/against the Underking, I would expect that to indicate a fair amount of progress). Though I know that the storyline doesn't just seem to be about going to dungeons, since you can go and talk to people to advance it. It also strikes me that the main plot might mostly have been about just doing a bit of Ghostbusting.
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Sep 16, 2023 05:50
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Kangra posted:Is there any way to get a whole lot bigger mana pool, or is it mostly a matter of improving your skill in the school so the spells are cheaper to cast? By default magicka is 0.5x of your Intelligence attribute, and since that maxes out at 100, it means that without the trait a character will have at most 50mp. The trait itself provides various possible multiplier at increased character creation cost, maxing out at a possible 3x Int. While I don't know the formula, it appears improving a spellcasting skill to lower the overall spell costs in that particular school is the better way of being able to cast more spells.
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Sep 16, 2023 19:21
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 Episode 34 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Stats Up
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Sep 19, 2023 03:02
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Kangra posted:Is there any way to get a whole lot bigger mana pool, or is it mostly a matter of improving your skill in the school so the spells are cheaper to cast? Like radintorov mentioned, the best / easiest way to get more total magicka seems to be starting with the 3X Int modifier at character creation, and then maxing intelligence. I think there are a couple enchantments that can boost your pool as well, but I'm not sure how effective they are. As for the main story, I'm not sure how many quests there are or how deep we're into it. Since I've never played the game, I've limited my research specifically to mechanics in an attempt to avoid spoilers. I'm sure the info is out there, though. It's my understanding the game has multiple endings, so we may be nearer to one ending than another, and I guess it's possible we may be locked out of certain endings based on the choices we've made so far. Regardless, I think we have a fair amount of game left. I still want to play around with enchanting and potion making. I'd also like to buy a house or at least a ship, summon a daedric prince or two, and get back to Betony to take a look around.
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Sep 19, 2023 03:10
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 Episode 35 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Sentinel Scarab
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Sep 28, 2023 00:31
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 Episode 36 - Daggerfall (DOS) - The Sentinel Search Continues
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Sep 30, 2023 03:45
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 Episode 37 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Worm King's Tale
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 Episode 38 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Exploring Betony At some point during our exploration of the Betony demo, I said that you couldn't get to the island. That's clearly not the case. That said, the locations in the full game are different, so I wanted to spend a little time checking it out. rojovision fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Oct 27, 2023 |
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Oct 27, 2023 16:09
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 Episode 39 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Fists and Feet of Fury
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Nov 10, 2023 23:58
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 Episode 40 - Daggerfall (DOS) - Path Vannonot Found
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Nov 18, 2023 02:17
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Would not be surprised if there is a trigger to get in and it's incredibly obscure. Although it also seems like that dungeon wasn't fully tested. I imagine the pit trap was just supposed to drop you in the water area, not kill you after you fell. But who knows.
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Nov 20, 2023 22:52
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 Episode 41 - Daggerfall (DOS) - To Totambu
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Kangra posted:Would not be surprised if there is a trigger to get in and it's incredibly obscure. Although it also seems like that dungeon wasn't fully tested. I imagine the pit trap was just supposed to drop you in the water area, not kill you after you fell. But who knows. Yeah it's possible there's something in there to open a path or act as a teleporter, but I didn't find anything on a second look. As for the trap, I might have just gotten unlucky with the angle I fell in at and bounced off one of the platforms in the water.
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Nov 25, 2023 05:33
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I am finally playing through daggerfall more (after getting a mod that lets temples cure poison). After your nightmare run it was really funny to end up in the quest room in Shedungent after like 8 minutes of wandering, never running into a single strong enemy.
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