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crepeface posted:what happened to your star? denied the holodomor
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crepeface posted:what happened to your star? it only shows up in the thread for thread iks
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i say swears online posted:denied the holodomor
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https://twitter.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1637859858501255168?s=20quote:The Iraq war also marked the onset of diplomatic coordination between Moscow and Beijing at the UN Security Council (UNSC). The two countries began in 2003 to apply similar voting patterns in the Council, first on Iraq, then on Libya in 2011, and over Syria in several key votes. That early Russia-China UN coordination has, 20 years later, transformed into a determined joint policy toward “guarding a new world order based on international law.”
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lumpentroll posted:it only shows up in the thread for thread iks yep
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She's not necessarily wrong on this issue, but I really wouldn't use her as a source.
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Al! posted:do you think w ever called jeb for advice he definitely called him to shoot the poo poo and pointedly never asked for advice and if jeb tried to offer it w would not engage and immediately change the subject
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Cuttlefush posted:Read the article on the op glad to see their economy is thriving. dioxins for everyone!
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I still don't quite get how anyone was fooled. I got how Americans were violent savages who didn't care, but I never understood how anyone was successfully deceived
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ikanreed posted:I still don't quite get how anyone was fooled. It is very hard to disabuse people of incorrect beliefs when reality directly undermines their worldview. Those people only started to care when it became clear that we were not "winning" by their definition, because the US losing a war undermines their worldview just as much as US leaders having lied to the public to get into the war in the first place.
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As someone who was a dumb kid then it was simple: America is good and Our Enemies are bad, so obviously they want to indiscriminately kill good people (us)
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StashAugustine posted:As someone who was a dumb kid then it was simple: America is good and Our Enemies are bad, so obviously they want to indiscriminately kill good people (us) I mean didn't you watch poo poo like M.A.S.H. and Rambo 1? gently caress even the Xman and Batman cartoons are going to introduce you to sympathetic bad guys p.s. tho I did know a lot of kids whose media consisted solely of Veggitails and Bibleman I'm sure they were calling for blood on 9/11 War and Pieces has issued a correction as of 17:10 on Mar 21, 2023 |
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War and Pieces posted:gently caress even the Xman and Batman cartoons are going to introduce you to sympathetic bad guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflQym365po
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ikanreed posted:I still don't quite get how anyone was fooled. It is too bad American society can't be more honest about itself and what it does. For example if Bush had just told the public in 2003 that the govt was going to distribute a trillion dollars (more) to well-connected contractors and in return the US WOULDN'T invade Iraq the American people could have jumped on that bargain. It would have entirely avoided the invasion and occupation pretext.
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the american people in 2003 as a whole wanted nonspecific muslims to die. they didnt need to be fooled
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That's like asking why germany was fooled by hitler. In both cases it's because the populace was a bunch of god damned nazis
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Ringo Roadagain posted:no, but I found the guy, Rrail, legit one of the biggest and most sincere psychos Ive seen on this forum. soon coming off a 100,000 hour probe He won't be back. IIRC he killed himself.
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specifically talking about Mr. Freeze. Iraqi sovereignty was like Saddam's frozen wife. And the non existent WMDs were his freeze ray
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ikanreed posted:I still don't quite get how anyone was fooled. I was 12 when the Gulf War kicked off. From then on it was a drum beat in popular and political culture that Saddam was a bad guy who led a brutal government which murdered and oppressed his people. Literally had movies where he was the Big Bad. It was conventional wisdom across the political spectrum that he was cheating on the weapon inspections and had stashes of gas hidden somewhere. Then 9/11 happened and everyone lost their loving mind. Invading Iraq got this sense of inevitability about it, Like even if Saddam wasn't responsible (and a lot of people were fooled into thinking that he did) he was still a bad guy and after 9/11 we couldn't just let bad guys hang around out there because then 9/11 part deux might happen. In my case I was frightened, angry, and the media that I was consuming (NYT, WaPost, CNN) were full-on pounding the war drums. Falling for it was one of the biggest mistakes of my life, not that my opposition would've changed anything.
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big dong wanter posted:i got a series of detentions for bullying the american students because of the iraq war. i stand by my actions 
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War and Pieces posted:specifically talking about Mr. Freeze. Yeah. I just wanted to post Norm.
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Al-Saqr posted:https://twitter.com/nicholasguyatt/status/1637840296569438215?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg Glenn Greenwald way down in the replies defending himself lol
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crepeface posted:idk but here's a guy that's still around: same guy was in the original ukraine war thread defending bill gates and bloomberg saying they were from humble origins, not that thats worse than any of those posts, just you know, he's poo poo in every conceivable way
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its kind of extremely funny that the US preemptively declared war on the netherlands just in case they'd get in their head they could accuse americans of war crimes in iraq and everyone in europe just grumbled about it for a little bit and then never mentioned it again
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fanfic insert posted:its kind of extremely funny that the US preemptively declared war on the netherlands just in case they'd get in their head they could accuse americans of war crimes in iraq and everyone in europe just grumbled about it for a little bit and then never mentioned it again No one cares if we body the Dutch.
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Anyone have a good book recommendation on US atrocities in Iraq? Particularly Fallujah. I don't remember watching coverage of it as it was happening, to the extent there was, so it's a blind spot for me. It also hasn't garnered the attention that the Vietnam stuff did, which I leave as an exercise to the poster as to why.
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JustFollowingOrder posted:placeholder for a former president's arrest expected somebody else
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JustFollowingOrder posted:placeholder for a former president's arrest
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Nothus posted:Glenn Greenwald way down in the replies defending himself lol no way!!!!!!
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JustFollowingOrder posted:placeholder for a former president's arrest go woke get permad
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everyone here is gonna end up having their posts in court filings
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wait wtf we invaded iraq? they had nothing to do with September 11th 2001.
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Woke Mind Virus posted:wait wtf we invaded iraq? they had nothing to do with September 11th 2001. We've blamed 9/11 on basically every country in the middle east except Saudi Arabia
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SplitSoul posted:She's not necessarily wrong on this issue, but I really wouldn't use her as a source. What's wrong with her?
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Sometimes I feel like I must have lost my mind and am hallucinating the world in between bouts of drooling and gnawing on graham crackers.
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