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Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Please if GBS is gonna start allowing sig's can we like, limit them to a few lines tall at most, I don't wanna see signatures 10 times the height of the text I'm trying to read between each and every post. Or is that not something that's doable on a per forum basis?

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Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Taerkar posted:

Maggie Thatcher did some real lasting harm to that country's psyche.

Magerat thatcher is a hero, without her the largest gender neutral toilet in the UK would never have been opened (her grave).

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


CaptainSarcastic posted:

Was that Jastiger? Or are you talking about someone else?

Jastiger also was intolerable in games. He got permabanned from league of legends for spamming "iowa state cyclones!!" Like one hundred times per match and was shocked when he got banned for it. He was also convinced he had been flagged for losses by the game and it became a running joke. He eventually got run out of the league thread.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Nooner posted:

Has anyone said SmugsworthLESS yet gently caress da mods :twisted:

Its this kind of new thinking this forum needs. You and your "gently caress da mods" platform has got my vote for moderator, nooner.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Jokes aside I think there is a bit of a problem of non regulars running straight to SAD when they see something in GBS they don't like and kicking up a stink about it, even when GBS regulars have like no problems with it. I posted an a fairly reasonable defence of the kirbykhan probe which several people agreed with, and the best the "other side" could come up with was "yeah kirbys done this 7 times before and been told specifically by a mod 5 times to stop but you see the trolling is marginally entertaining so its actually fine and he shouldnt be punished this much" an argument the admins agreed with for some reason and unprobed him, so he immiediately went back to the thread to continue trolling and getting warned again to cut it out by an IK.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


IKs shohld be picked once a month by sortition to ensure any biases counter out in the long run.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


If you really wanna make it work, you make it pick from only posters with post counts in GBS in the 50% to 90% deciles, so that you exclude people who never post in GBS and hence don't understand it's rules and customs, but also exclude the people at the topend who post in GBS too much and are either terminally online wierdos, forums superstars liable to form a fiefdom or the incredibly tryhard people trying to game the system to get IK for a month.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Every poster an IK, whenever they press buttons there is a 90% chance it bounces back onto themselves. If someone is actually posting badly enough that people are trying to probe them eventually one will stick.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Going back to GBS feedback for a second: Can the GBS mods clarify how much and how far the new "No sucking or being cringe" and "no self promotion" site rules be applied in GBS? I occasionally post from a position of expertise for bolting and heavy industry for powergen and oil and gas (which is my career) in the OHSA and Schadenfreude threads, and its not really clear from SAD how far you need to go before its bannable.

Similarly on the new "no sucking" rule, what specifically qualifies as sucking or cringe in GBS that would get a punishment? Again the SAD team seemed fairly unsure on this too so Im assuming its left to the subforum discretion.

Drone_Fragger fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Apr 15, 2023

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


It seems every as time as well any mod uses their buttons a bunch of people run to SAD to cry to the admins about how GBS is run by the tyrant mods and attempt to argue the toss.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Yet again mysteriously its "serious concerns" bought forward by people who I've never seen posting in gbs claiming that:

1. A poster with 6% of their posts in gbs is some kind of gbs deep state doxxing agent working for the mods.
2. A mod in dnd keeping a dnd spreadsheet of thread popularity to see if any need refreshing.
3. Gbs shouldnt do politics because there is too many jokes :(:(:(

Is apparantly evidence that gbs politics and specifically the ukraine thread is destroying every other subforum, and hence must be banned post haste. Its ridiculous.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


At my mums 60th she had an outdoor cinema that played the original west side story at about 11 oclock and three days later got a warning letter from the council warning her about setting off firecrackers after 11.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


A shibboleth should be developed about if chicago style pizza is truely a pizza or a soup or a stew, and then posters banned according to how badly they answer.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Kirbykhan is getting probed and suchlike for being told not to do something and repeatedly doing it, not that what hes doing is specifically probable by the way. His crime is not posting "war is bad", his crime is not listening to the mods when they tell him to gently caress off with it.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Bring in d and d style moderations and if you ever make an uncited joke or flame the mods are obliged to immiediately queue a ban+30

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Tragically, the Jeffrey chaos dunk is likely more goldmine worthy. The GBS feedback thread is merely tangential to it.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Seth Pecksniff posted:

Ok yeah it's goodmined

Another feedback success story!

We need a gbs success stories thread tbat will be stickied and updated like 3 times a year.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Literally A Person posted:

GBS wouldn't suck as bad if we had a cool new mascot.

Like Crash Bandicoot.

the huge balls pig would be better if this is the huge pig balls subforum.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

Prepare for incoming drama

Whats happened now?

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Flowers for QAnon posted:

There’s a fetish art thread in gbs?

I mean, there was the "mock deviantart thread" which turned into a bunch of SA wierdos going "ha ha, found this wierd art to laugh at ha ha" and then posting like 200 straight posts of the most hosed up poo poo imaginable. But that got closed and the posters banished like a year ago.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


"guys we unbanned CYOA threads! Go create some good ones! we only have one rule, don't go using it as an excuse to produce pages of barely disguised fetish art, that would be - aw what the gently caress"

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Honestly how the hell was that allowed to get to three pages let alone five, what the gently caress.

I guess..... Technically.... Its not against the rules...? Should the "no homegrown" catch all porn rule include "barely disguised fetish art" for clarity?

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Lets face it, applewhite isnt being probed and ths thread gassed for horny posting, hes probed for drawing thinly disguised fetish porn. I think its important to have clarity on that.

If were gonna go down some kinda puritanical "no horny at all" its gonna end up killing a lot of tangentially related threads in pyf, comics, and gbs and games, (and probably all of adrtw, lmao) and while it would definately solve the issue i guess but its a pretty wide hammer for a fairly thin issue, And to be honest is a wide enough rule that some mods could use for settling grudges very easily.

The thread was gross but was it indicative of some kind of larger issue? No. Gbs, or in fact any of subs, arent hotbeds of creepy wierdos drawing smut. The main issue is that the rules dont explicitly say "dont draw wierd fetish art disguised as something else", which as far as im concerned should probably be forums wide anyway.

Personally I would probably add a "no homegrown (including your wierd fetish art)" rule to the gbs thread in light of this so next time it cant get to to this stage.

Drone_Fragger fucked around with this message at 08:46 on May 5, 2023

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Honestly thats probably better posted in SAD but in typical SAD style i would almost certainly get dogpiled for disagreeing on a sweeping knee jerk reaction despite actually agreeing with the decision.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


SniperWoreConverse posted:

porn posting in general can't turn out well & even vanilla softcore porny threads of olden days eventually got gassed iirc

And theyre still gross and would still expect them to be gassed, im not arguing for a return to that.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


16-bit Butt-Head posted:

im reading the thread now and lol how was that thread not gassed instantly and the op probed

The first two pages are... Really no worse than any other cyoa, though still not really my cup of tea to read. Page three is where it.... Uh... Yeeeesh.

Honestly I agree with Snipers take. I guess the question is how do you define "self reinforcing goon porn circus" in a way thst makes sense, other than "when the mods see it they'll know".

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Charles Bukowski posted:

Is removing drive by trolling in gbs a good thing? Some things, some people, need to be trolled. You end up taking yourself too seriously otherwise.

I think Applewhite was treated harshly on reflection.

I am not surprised that it was upped to a ban plus thirty, which isnt unwarranted, but i am surprised at the stubborn refusal to actually pass any rules that would prevent it from happening again.

Relying on nebulous "problem posters get the hammer" rulings is just setting the stage for another big drama flare up when the wrong "problem poster" gets hit.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Slugworth posted:

I agree, we need more and more granular rules. Spell out exactly what mythical species dicks we can or can't draw, and if someone draws a dick that belongs to a cryptid that nobody thought to include in the rules, well hey, tough poo poo guys, shoulda remembered to include mothman dick in your rules.

No, but "no posting fetish porn" as a rule after the deviantart debacle would ot solved this problem neatly.

This doesnt need particuliarly complicated rules to solve.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


syntaxfunction posted:

The other problem is the more you expand, clarify and specify rules the more annoying nerds use it to try and rules lawyer then being dicks because they think the internet follows the same rules as their debate teams. "I didn't *technically* break any rules so therefore you can't ban me!" Wah wah, gently caress off.

Follow the spirit of the rules, not the letter.

But what if my fetish is news article headlines? What do we do then? WHAT DO WE DO?!

Agreed completely, but that is a better situation than currently exists where "forums problem posters" linger for years because the mods dont want to pass a rule forbidding serious discussion of animal cruelty or whatever so they dont get dinged for it. Currently in some areas I dont think the "spirit" of the rules even properly exists in a way thats enforcable.

Rules lawyering is a problem wherever you are, Even at a professional level where you have engineering companies stamping stuff "made in the UK" becsuse they put two holes in the chinese stuff they imported. However, Rules lawyering in itself is a pretty good indication of someone posting in bad faith in the first place. Anyone arguing "ah!!! Well technically by posting clothed ladies instead of naked ones i didnt breach the no porn rule" knew full well they were skirting it and trying to be cute, for instance.

I guess if people really want to argue the toss they can try it in SAD, where luckily people are even more aggressively against rules lawyering.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


They could literally just turn the front page into a weird twitter and "best of something awful" aggregator and it would likely be interesting enough to not look like the website is defunct.

edit: nice the goatse avatar got blanked, thanks mods

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

Seth is a good mod, despite what they say about him in SAD

If you're getting complained about in SAD it means you're doing something right

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Appointing more mods is part of the solution. The other half is fixing the whack rear end report queue and starting probing people who report a post with poo poo like "this guy is a huge chode and i dont like this post".

Like yes, we can hire more people to use buckets to bail the ship out, but we could also fix the holes in the ship and stop people drilling more of them too at the same time. Gbs getting hundreds of reports a week is insane.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Just save gbs from further fake threads and make a self ownage honeypot thread.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Shouldn't of added the "... In minecraft" rule, then you could have domed a couple of people for taking the piss. Would of been much funnier.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Panic! At The Tesco posted:

you telling me we have to legally respect smugworth?

He is a future gbs moderation veteran from the upcoming posting wars, so it would in fact be disrespectful not to salute while respecting him.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


I think the thread you bump when you take a huge ahit should be stickied too. Its basically part of gbs's cultural tapestry and should be awarded that honour.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Serious comment: sticky a new thread each week, have a poll in said thread to pick the next stickied thread, let people suggest in here or chat nominations for the revolving gbs stickied thread

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Schweinhund posted:

There is a lot of GBS envy on the forum.

I remember reading a post in SAD that was something like "I expected many things in 2023, but gbs nationalism was not one of them". Everyone is simply jealous of just how much success and fun gbs is having.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


GBS has the energy of a 40 something dad desperately trying to relive their youth by being 18 again in the late 90s, complete with the same humour.

Anyway in conclusion calling it cringe to post in gbs is actually, becsuse of this, ageism.

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Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


HonorableTB posted:

petition to rename gbs to general ballshit for the month of july

I mean honestly having a once monthly poll to determine what GBS stands for the next month would be a very nice idea.

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