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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Please purge cinci from moderation as he has no understanding of how people communicate and stifles anything that he deems unworthy. Agreed with this, notably purging Cinci. They are not good at moderating. They are needlessly antagonistic and do not handle criticism well (at all, really). They are good at being in charge of messy poo poo the other mods don't want to deal with, which is why they're a mod. But if the ostensible purpose of a feedback thread is to solicit user ideas on how to improve DnD: remove cinci's star.
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Aegis posted:In the interests of giving feedback, I disagree. Cinci's approach has worked well in the D&D Ukraine thread and before that in the Eastern Europe thread. I especially appreciate this given how much of a drama trap discussion of the war in Ukraine has been on the other subforums. The way they've handled the thread from becoming a drama trap is to forbid discussion of certain topics that are absolutely relevant to discussing the War that Cinci and most thread regulars don't want to read about. MikeC upthread, for example, mentioned how IR theory is verboten--I would figure academic discussions as to the causes of war would be germane to talking about a given war. There's a list of other, purportedly "boring" topics that are off-limits, including the "History of NATO, its relationship with the USSR and the ex-USSR states up until February 24, 2022." That topic isn't boring, it's just something cinci and some others don't want to talk about (I have my beliefs on why that is, but will refrain from elaborating here to keep this from being too much posting about posters). There's nothing left to debate or discuss in the thread, it's essentially an RSS of the war. I also understand I'm impotently pissing in the wind on this. I'm just sore because not one, but two posters told me to die back when the war started over this post I made, both of whom received whopping 6ers for doing so. The mod responsible for those is no longer a DnD mod, thankfully, but the whole experience surrounding discussing the war in DnD has been pretty foul. But as you mentioned, Aegis, the War thread is drama-free, even if it's a terrible space to actually discuss the War. edit: corrected which post I made that led others to wish death on me. Judgy Fucker fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Mar 27, 2023 |
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Aegis posted:I'm sorry you've had bad experiences, but I strongly disagree. The D&D Ukraine thread is generally quite active and has been kept very readable. I am not aware of anything stopping you from posting a new thread if you want to talk about things that are out-of-bounds. The thing that would be stopping me is the capricious moderation by CZS. Thank you for your cordiality, genuinely. 
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Somaen posted:There are places you can discuss how actually, NATO provoked Russia into invading and actually, the holodomor is a made up conspiracy to make the soviets look bad that are more appropriate and you are very welcome to post there, why do you need to import that to DnD Who the hell is talking about the Holodomor here besides you? Personally, I would like to debate and discuss things in the Debate and Discussion forum. I don't think telling (or at the least, implying) that other users should go somewhere else is helpful for fostering a community where people feel empowered to share and discuss opinions on things.
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Mar 27, 2023 16:30
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cinci zoo sniper posted:The repertoire there was highly repetitive, and most often presented in a low-quality way with a huge “debate me cowards” energy, which set a rather standard bar for any ensuing conversation too. That wasn’t really sustainable for the thread, and so I chose to impose a requirement asking of people to make novel, high-effort posts on the subject if they do. That led to a disappearance of multiple daily pages of useless posts without any much probations issued, and based on no “let’s talk about NATO history” threads springing since then I can only conclude that the point of the posts was to revel in the attention at least as much as to “contribute” to the thread (quotes due to missing the point of it). How are these not tacit admissions of assuming bad faith in others' posts? I'd like to hear from a mod who isn't CZS on this matter.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Oh, one can post poorly in good faith, which was the case here, the same one post dozens of times per day. People who would use, e.g., the topic of NATO history to mine SYQs would fall under the standing rules for posting in bad faith, and no thread-specific rules were needed to sanction them in a due process. The second highlighted sentence is a retrospective speculation on why the posting patterns the repetitive posting rules sought to curb did wither shortly thereafter. Alright, so CZS is firm in the position that DnD mods don't need to follow the forum's own rules (namely, assuming good faith). Could I get some input from other mods about this?
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Fritz the Horse posted:that's correct. for example, if a mod thinks someone is trolling they do not in fact need to assume the troll is posting in good faith. it's rather cynical and not a good thing to assume everyone is posting in bad faith but I haven't seen anyone doing that. Thank you for answering, even though that's total bullshit and is absolutely abused as a way for moderators to enforce pet orthodoxies.
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Taerkar posted:Can you provide us with anonymous examples of some of the bad reports? I would love to see this. Along with the reported posts, naturally. Anonymized is fine.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:My moderation feedback is that this thread needs more moderation because the pedantic slap fights are feeding back into themselves and consuming the thread designed for feedback on moderation. Agreed with this. Harold Fjord posted:The essential problem is a bunch of posters conflating political opinions with assholery. And with this, too, minus any specific accusations toward Solkanar512.
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