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Sir Kodiak posted:Sure, I get that if Congress never cuts anyone off then nobody is worried about being cut off. That makes sense. Because the threshold of action and number of people involved necessary for Congressional action is higher. This means such an action is less likely to be viewed as arbitrary or likely to reoccur.
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Apr 14, 2024 01:54
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Remember when Trump withheld weapons for Ukraine until they would help him smear a political opponent? But bear in mind that some nations have American built arms from before they ended up on a poo poo list via revolution or whatever. Iran had a bunch of fighters they just couldn't get parts or updates for. Sort of understandable for big things, but if you're worried that you'll become logistically stranded due to one person, vs a bunch of people who are specifically given money because the MIC really, really wants to sell weapons abroad, that changes who you do business with. Think about France after Britain pressured them into giving kill commands for the anti ship missiles Argentina bought, and imagine what that did for their arms sale popularity
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Apr 14, 2024 02:06
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Volmarias posted:Think about France after Britain pressured them into giving kill commands for the anti ship missiles Argentina bought, and imagine what that did for their arms sale popularity France didn't give Britain some magic broadcast to turn off Exocets. They helped interdict and tamper with the international supply of those that Argentina did not already have inside the inventory. And they let Britain train against French aircraft. But there was no "missile no worky" hack.
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Apr 14, 2024 02:14
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mlmp08 posted:France didn't give Britain some magic broadcast to turn off Exocets. They helped interdict and tamper with the international supply of those that Argentina did not already have inside the inventory. And they let Britain train against French aircraft. But there was no "missile no worky" hack. ... I have been misled! Curse you, Internet!
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Apr 14, 2024 02:16
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During the conflict, the Argentine Navy launched a total of five Exocet missiles at British warships, with four of them hitting their targets. The first two Exocet hits occurred on May 4, 1982, when the destroyer HMS Sheffield was hit and later sank due to the damage. The third Exocet hit occurred on May 25, 1982, when the cargo ship Atlantic Conveyor was hit and later sunk, resulting in the loss of several helicopters and other critical supplies. The fourth Exocet hit occurred on June 8, 1982, when the frigate HMS Glamorgan was hit, resulting in the loss of several crew members. Yeah. No 'magic turnoff' buttons. Well, maybe the one that missed.
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Apr 14, 2024 02:21
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Putting a killswitch to your missiles sounds like a terrible idea to me. You are one hack away from losing your entire arsenal.
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Apr 14, 2024 08:23
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Keisari posted:Putting a killswitch to your missiles sounds like a terrible idea to me. You are one hack away from losing your entire arsenal. Not your own, just the exports.
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Apr 14, 2024 09:07
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Volmarias posted:Not your own, just the exports. Lmao, good point. However, buying such missiles seems like a terrible idea to me for the same reason.
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Apr 14, 2024 09:42
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It took a while, but the currently heightened pace of air attacks made Germany supply a third Patriot-system. The Bundeswehr was ordered to immediately pack up and send the system, so it should arrive in Ukraine shortly.
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Apr 14, 2024 10:16
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Keisari posted:Putting a killswitch to your missiles sounds like a terrible idea to me. You are one hack away from losing your entire arsenal. Edit: sorry, had to. I'm listening to the WTYP cast of the Nedelin Catastrophe right now and the timing of your post was irresistible. Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Apr 14, 2024 |
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Apr 14, 2024 10:42
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Not only golf carts are serving as front line assault vehicles but now joined by motor bikes and urals. https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-separatists-on-motorcycles-appear-assault-ukrainian-positions-outwit-drones-2024-4?op=1 All assaults have failed for very obvious reasons. Infinite russian stockpile of tanks and armored vehicles and it's insane production that is able to cover all losses has a funny way of manifesting itself.
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Apr 15, 2024 09:51
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haddedam posted:Not only golf carts are serving as front line assault vehicles but now joined by motor bikes and urals. I don't understand why you constantly need to make light of the situation where even Ukraine admits its army is on the backfoot with Russia outnumbering Ukraine in every way. It's the definition of copium for copium's sake. Ukraine has to heavily rely on FPV drones due to shortage of artillery shells, and the article you linked posits that the use of motorcycles is effective in outrunning the drones. Russia doesn't care about losing thousands of soldiers to capture a ruined village, so giving them old Javas to zoom around can only improve things. As an aside, lol that Business Insider quotes the insane twitter user Lord Bebo. Figuring out telegram embeds to cite a primary source is too hard, I guess.
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Apr 15, 2024 11:00
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Finnish combat messengers use dirt bikes and snowmobiles, but then the terrain provides good concealment. That footage makes one think of Mad Max.
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Apr 15, 2024 11:39
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haddedam posted:Not only golf carts are serving as front line assault vehicles but now joined by motor bikes and urals. But are they the GOOD motor bikes? You know, the ones they can play card games on.
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Apr 15, 2024 11:42
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Moktaro posted:But are they the GOOD motor bikes? Dueling the quad drones to not get sent to the shadow realm.
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Apr 15, 2024 11:53
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Paladinus posted:As an aside, lol that Business Insider quotes the insane twitter user Lord Bebo. Figuring out telegram embeds to cite a primary source is too hard, I guess. lmao didnt notice this. Dr Snekotron was unavailable I guess!!! Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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Apr 15, 2024 12:21
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Ukraine literally uses quad bikes too. I don't get the whole "LOL SILLY RUSSIANS USING GOLF CARTS/ DIRT BIKES ETC". Transportation is transportation and for every one of those golf carts then gets blown up there's probably a few that get through because Ukraine is desperately short of ammo right now (thanks Republicans!) which is why Ukraine is not doing too well right now.
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Apr 15, 2024 16:16
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I believe the thinking is that russia should be held to a higher standard given that they present themselves as a prominent world power as apposed to the much smaller and poorer Ukraine.
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Apr 15, 2024 16:30
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the poo poo the russians are driving looks like powerwheels, that's why people talk about it.
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Apr 15, 2024 16:39
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Ikasuhito posted:I believe the thinking is that russia should be held to a higher standard given that they present themselves as a prominent world power as apposed to the much smaller and poorer Ukraine. its this tbh
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Apr 15, 2024 16:44
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So when can we start feeling better about the direction of the war? Russians on horseback getting whacked by FPV drones?
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Apr 15, 2024 17:03
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Dick Ripple posted:So when can we start feeling better about the direction of the war? Russians on horseback getting whacked by FPV drones? TNT-loaded Buhanka assaults probably
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Apr 15, 2024 17:09
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Dick Ripple posted:So when can we start feeling better about the direction of the war? Russians on horseback getting whacked by FPV drones? You joke, but I wouldn't be so quick to put that tongue in your cheek. I very well may happen.
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Apr 15, 2024 17:12
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Charliegrs posted:Ukraine literally uses quad bikes too. I don't get the whole "LOL SILLY RUSSIANS USING GOLF CARTS/ DIRT BIKES ETC". Transportation is transportation and for every one of those golf carts then gets blown up there's probably a few that get through because Ukraine is desperately short of ammo right now (thanks Republicans!) which is why Ukraine is not doing too well right now. People are making fun of the Russians for using these vehicles as battlefield transport instead of APCs, not for using them for logistics transport instead of trucks.
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Apr 15, 2024 18:34
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fatherboxx posted:TNT-loaded Buhanka assaults probably NMSthis warcrime already happenedNMS
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Apr 15, 2024 19:10
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Nenonen posted:Finnish combat messengers use dirt bikes and snowmobiles, but then the terrain provides good concealment. That footage makes one think of Mad Max. I just went into a combat messenger unit's workshop this weekend to get a roll of garbage bags, and I'm pretty sure I have all the cancer. They're basically Warhammer dirt bikes.
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Apr 15, 2024 21:57
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Ikasuhito posted:You joke, but I wouldn't be so quick to put that tongue in your cheek. I very well may happen.  I certainly hope you don't!
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Apr 16, 2024 01:59
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hepatizon posted:People are making fun of the Russians for using these vehicles as battlefield transport instead of APCs, not for using them for logistics transport instead of trucks. Both sides are throwing absolutely everything at each other, are we also gonna make fun of Ukranian artillery teams for only having one shell a day to shoot?
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Apr 16, 2024 03:15
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BabyFur Denny posted:Both sides are throwing absolutely everything at each other, are we also gonna make fun of Ukranian artillery teams for only having one shell a day to shoot? No, we're going to cry/scream into our pillow at night until the sweet release of sleep finally takes us at 1:53 am, only to be jolted awake a few short hours later to start working again.
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Apr 16, 2024 03:18
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BabyFur Denny posted:Both sides are throwing absolutely everything at each other, are we also gonna make fun of Ukranian artillery teams for only having one shell a day to shoot? Ukraine doesn't claim to be a great power, so no. Russia however...
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Apr 16, 2024 05:27
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Jesus https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1780139657088426438?t=pApEwb6toDb4wJs4-0i39w&s=19
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Apr 16, 2024 08:57
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c) they made several at once
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Apr 16, 2024 09:08
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It's like when hermit crab pick random plastic trash as their shelter.
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Apr 16, 2024 09:12
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Do we have shots of them not on the move?
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Apr 16, 2024 09:32
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BabyFur Denny posted:Both sides are throwing absolutely everything at each other, are we also gonna make fun of Ukranian artillery teams for only having one shell a day to shoot? Ukrainian foreign policy isn’t “we’re the best army in the world so we should be allowed to invade other countries without repercussions” so no, their situation should be deplored rather than mocked.
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Apr 16, 2024 10:15
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fatherboxx posted:Jesus idk, makes sense if the main problem the Russian are trying to solve are small drones. So they are trying turtle tanks that would need to be stopped by bigger weapons and motorbikes that move too fast for fpv drones to effectively engage. No idea whether it works, but APCs might not be the answer here.
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Apr 16, 2024 11:58
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genericnick posted:idk, makes sense if the main problem the Russian are trying to solve are small drones. So they are trying turtle tanks that would need to be stopped by bigger weapons and motorbikes that move too fast for fpv drones to effectively engage. No idea whether it works, but APCs might not be the answer here. The big issue I see with turtle tanks is that while they might be a bit too sturdy for small drone weaponry, they probably aren't too sturdy for the kind of weapons a small drone would be able to trivially call in on it. That is what happened to original the turtle tank I believe, it was later found destroyed.
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Apr 16, 2024 12:07
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Kchama posted:The big issue I see with turtle tanks is that while they might be a bit too sturdy for small drone weaponry, they probably aren't too sturdy for the kind of weapons a small drone would be able to trivially call in on it. That is what happened to original the turtle tank I believe, it was later found destroyed. The story there is that Russians filmed the turtle tank in a shed 'look at our turtle tank' and someone got enough info from that footage to HIMARS the shed.
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Apr 16, 2024 12:16
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fatherboxx posted:Jesus Combat footage already has videos of it being blown up basically within seconds of it appearing on the battlefield
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Apr 16, 2024 12:21
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CeeJee posted:The story there is that Russians filmed the turtle tank in a shed 'look at our turtle tank' and someone got enough info from that footage to HIMARS the shed. Dumb of them, but that is kind of what I mean. If a drone can see you, a drone can call in something to blow you up. That's generally how these small drones handles anything with any sort of toughness. The first turtle tank just told on itself instead.
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