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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Tism the Dragon Tickler posted:

Speaking solely of the US here, the primary forces opposed to sex work becoming less looked down on and then eventually decriminalized are the same forces opposed to a whole bunch of other things which basically everyone here agrees are net societal goods. The hyper-partisan puritanical bullshit attached to conservatism and the capitalist class will need to be taken down at least in part before anything can be done on a large scale.

The best we can hope for in the interim is small scale - decriminalization of sex work on the city level, to start with.

The US very obviously has weird hangups and self-hate regarding sex and sexuality relative to other developed Western nations, and it's pretty bipartisan. Even feminists are split on it. I don't think we'll likely see any traction on anything without a significant union push in the industry.

But even without the sex hangups in this country, the best hope for improving material conditions for most workers in general seems to be aggressively unionizing, so perhaps porn is not all that unique in that regard.

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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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But they'll never Beetus

BougieBitch posted:

So here's a thing I've never seen meaningful discussion about - what would a reasonable option be for controlling what underage users view?

It seems to me like full prohibition is a non-starter - I doubt anyone on this site waited until they were 18 to look up porn - but there are some really gross outcomes for full opening the floodgates, especially for stuff like camshows or whatnot where every teen that sneaks past the filter is essentially a participant in a group sex act. If I was camming I would feel extremely gross knowing that had happened, so there are definitely SOME situations where we definitely want hard barriers, but at the same time there has never been a way to keep teens from porn, and even if the mainstream, US-based sites had a foolproof system it would just funnel people into the shady Russian ones or whatever, which probably have a higher likelihood of being unsafe for virus/data stealing reasons and featuring trafficked performers.

Is there, like, some sort of "porno learner's permit" that should exist somehow? Like, what is the middle ground between total prohibition and Wild West unregulated?

It feels especially egregious when you consider that there are a bunch of technicalities around the age of consent that make it so someone can be covered by "Romeo and Juliet" laws if they want to have actual sex, but aren't able to look at erotic content in any other venue - not to mention how many people are victimized in part because they don't recognize that something is inappropriate

Not even getting into "Romeo and Juliet" laws, age of consent in 30+ states is 16.

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