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LanceHunter posted:The problem with most discussions of porn and the porn industry is that the vast majority of it comes from people outside the industry who are projecting their own hangups and/or fantasies onto it. Thus a lot of the talk (either saying that it is inherently awful and must be eliminated or that it is 100% fine and is an unalloyed good) ignores the voices of the people who actually know the most about what it is really like. So before jumping into any discussion I recommend reading what performers have written about their experiences There was a goon here a while ago who was a director or camera man or something that posted several ASK/TELL threads on the subject but I think it turned out he was a big rear end in a top hat. I don't recall what his deal was but the threads were fun interesting to read.
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It's a little wild to think about how much porn drives tech, which I think is what the OP was trying to touch on. For such an unspoken taboo, a lot of people SURE DO like porn. I do. The business decisions of the porn industry drove the format wars of DVD v HDDVD and, before that, VHS v Betamax. That's not even getting into the ubiquity of the internet in the mid to late 90's. We shouldn't kid ourselves that watching people have sex hasn't shaped SO MUCH of the technology we currently use. And it's going to drive Deepfakes in the not too distant future, don't even kid yourse;ves. The thing is, no one wants to be the person that stands up and admits or acknowledges that people do, in fact, like to masturbate and fantasize, especially men and especially in private, so anything that rightfully treats it like real work (it is) that needs real labor laws (it does) is something that nobody wants to attach their name to or got to bat for. They'll take the money, the bribes and sell the ads but no lawmaker wants to be known as "the defender of porn" or "the porno guy" since it's "sinful" and, let's face it, still has the element of shame and embarrassment attached to it. But everyone knows about it. Every (male) I know looks at it. We make jokes about it. It's a big elephant in the room that is not taken seriously, despite how much tech and finance it secretly drives. Or at least contributes to. ... I dunno. We're a long way from beaded curtains in a video store, 8mm reels projected on a bedsheet at stag parties and dirty magazines behind the counter of the gas station and have "moved on" to people being able to essentially view anything they want with a simple Incognito Google search that's like ordering off a menu and I'm not sure how I feel about it beyond realizing that sex is a major MAJOR motivator of human behavior. Probably the second photograph ever taken or the first film ever made was of an attractive naked woman, a sex act, or something close to it. I think porn may have helped open minds and acceptance of certain "weird" lifestyles like BSDM, fetishes, and sexual proclivities outside the mainstream that people were ashamed of having. I have to imagine that gay porn may have made some closeted people feel less isolated and alone or at least provided an outlet for them, so to speak. A lot of "straight" guys like(d) to view trans porn, and perhaps that created an avenue towards, if not acceptance, at least recognizing that it loving exists. It's not going to go AWAY, and it's weird to me that a lot of people think it's more dangerous than something like, say, firearms. But, again, that's built of the foundation of shame, and I think the "problem" with sex on screen, to the extent that there is one, is that it's not looked at as real work, talked about openly and that it brushes up very close against the blurry line of what constitutes prostitution - which we treat as a crime for some reason.
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doverhog posted:Shouldn't the thread also cover sex work in a broader sense? The progressive, feminist, position is decriminalization. I mean, go ahead and post your ideas about it then?
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