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doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Shouldn't the thread also cover sex work in a broader sense? The progressive, feminist, position is decriminalization.

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doverhog
May 31, 2013

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Shrecknet posted:

I cannot imagine there is any debate or discussion to be had about more intimate sex work - it should be safe and legal everywhere, what is there to discuss?

If that is the consensus, ok. Full decriminalization is not the current law in most places.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

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BiggerBoat posted:

I mean, go ahead and post your ideas about it then?

Sex work is work, and it can't really be discussed without also dealing with the concept of "work", money, and capitalism in a broader sense.

Any attempt to ban or restrict it without first dealing with the forces that would make someone do it when they don't want to will always be a net negative to society. Similar to how prohibition of drugs or alcohol is.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

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Not sure, but while legitimization can be better or worse depending on how it's done, on a fundamental level decriminalization is the best option. Both for society, and the people involved.

Perhaps there is a day in which we trust institutions enough to regulate things like this, but it is not this day.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

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111023_4 posted:

the latest advancement in porn? cartoons.

How confident are you that the people animating porn cartoons are working in good conditions and receiving fair wages for their work?

doverhog
May 31, 2013

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BigRed0427 posted:

How about leftist opposition to sex work? I use to run in a few leftist organizations and I've heard the argument made that sex work can never be consensual because it will always be under some duress. Either another person or the free market itself.

This applies to all "work" and life itself.

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doverhog
May 31, 2013

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Pvt. Parts posted:

Lol you just can't get ahead of these arguments. "ActUALlY, ThAT's CApitALISM ToO". As if we are supposed to have every one of our needs met by everyone else as a reward for... existing?

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Existence itself is a material condition placed on us by forces beyond our control. Whether your needs should be met is a separate question as to to whether someone should be allowed to, for example, do sex work without being harassed by the state.

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