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America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

Xander77 posted:

Anyone got a coherent summary of the process that forced banks and credit car companies to refuse service to adult entertainment? I understand it's 50% moral outrage \ fear of consumer backlash and 50% political pressure that started in the 90s?

Watch the documentary Money Shot. They go into detail about how Pornhub was hosting non-consensual content and refusing to do anything about it until a media campaign and banks/credit cards started pulling out, no pun intended.

It also discusses how people went too far and started going after sex workers too.

I haven't heard the chargeback angle before. Ironically crypto can handle that issue quite well.

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In regards to sex education: I can understand why some parents are averse to the idea of strangers talking to their kids about sex. Does anyone know of any schools that try to involve parents in the discussion?

Like maybe, "hey, here's a pamphlet on topics to discuss with your kid, it's up to you if you actually talk about it or not". You can say gently caress the fundies but in democratically organized societies you have to compromise with the fact that what parents think on these topics may not align with what is your ideal.

I had a discussion with my dad about this because he's a big fan of DeSantis and the farthest I got was saying "well why do you need to worry about public schools if God will bring his chosen people to him anyway?" But I don't think I actually convinced him.

E: there might be too much focus on making sure kids get raised right by schools and not enough focus that parents raise their kids correctly in the first place.

America Inc. fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Jul 9, 2023

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America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

PT6A posted:

You could even say "it's up to you to teach your kids your version of the morality of sex, we're here to talk about how it works in a very utilitarian fashion, and it will likely include things you wish didn't exist if you're a stupid prudish gently caress, but: tough poo poo, deal with it!"

I agree, the question just becomes how do you convince fundies to be ok with this arrangement. I would think one compelling argument would be that even if abstinence doesn't work - if your kids decide to be evil and have sex - then the harm will be minimized when they don't have kids or get STDs.

But these fundies really focus on the idea of punishment and punishing people for having sex. There's a line that runs between this idea of being "hard on sin" and "hard on crime".

There has to be some religious argument for harm reduction of sin.

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