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Spinning off from some discussion in the tech nightmares thread, I want to talk about porn. Quick rule:quote:DO NOT TALK ABOUT YOUR PARTICULAR FETISH, NO ONE CARES SICKO OK, so: here are some jumping-off discussion points: LOL the porn industry is hilariously exploitative, it chews up and spits out young girls. Famously Mia Khalifa, one of the biggest 'stars' of the early teens, made just $12,000 and has now become an anti-porn crusader due to how badly the imbalance of pay was. I feel like this is a pretty uncontroversial take; porn is about the farthest thing from unionized an industry can be, from 'suitcase pimps' to the very edges of guys like Max Hardcore who have dubious understanding about performer consent. Deepfakes are wild! https://twitter.com/laurenbarton03/status/1632769865122545664 We are quickly getting to the point where deepfake technology and generative pornography is going to be prosumer- or consumer-grade availability either now or very soon. What controls should we put in place? Is it wrong to offer a service where a grieving widower can get a porno of him and his late wife made? What about "my fursona loving Scarlett Johanssen"? What harm is being done? OnlyFans, the 900 lb gorilla in the room, is radically changing sex work, cutting out the Hollywood Valley set and letting performers get paid directly. While this is a welcome reprieve from the "all porn is free (stolen)" ethos of the big tube sites (well, site, we'll get to that next), what harms and risks does this site engender, being as how they offer little security. Most onlyfans performers are making less than $100 a month; is that good? Should we have a site that promotes this sort of exploitation that offers payouts and big winners/mass losers like twitch streaming? Mindgeek is the organization that owns PornHub.... and redtube, xhamster and all the rest of every major tube site. They collect all the ad revenue and don't share it with creators. Vertical integration, baybee! When they finally were forced to do something about Revenge Porn, they instead overreacted and banned/deleted all user-submitted videos, leaving (conveniently) only content that their subsidiaries created. Anyway, talk about  here. DON'T BE WEIRD!
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Let's read about sex work from actual sex workers instead of goons! Lorelei Lee: Cash & Consent Jon Ronson: The Butterfly Effect, about how the tube sites ruined porn Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jul 2, 2023 |
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what's the vibe with OnlyFans? Is the influx of B-list celebs like Bella Thorne monetizing nothing but bikini pics you could see in US Weekly sucking up finite money that should be going to content creators who aren't independently famous and rich? Or does their presence on the platform legitimize it in a way that gets more eyeballs and payments to other performers than they otherwise would? Did the ridiculous "pivot to SFW content" of OnlyFansTV die so quickly because of how stupid it was or because it was never meant to exist, just placate billing processors? What do you see as the future of OF? Twitch-style "98% of accounts have less than 5 subs" ghost towns except for the winners? Are we just in a gold rush and usage will recede to normal levels or is the gold rush over and this is the new normal? Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Apr 9, 2023 |
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I cannot imagine there is any debate or discussion to be had about more intimate sex work - it should be safe and legal everywhere, what is there to discuss?
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Apr 9, 2023 21:14
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no reasonable person disputes that sex work is work. The average voter is not reasonable. I'm open to discussing how we break through that there's no stigma that should be attached. Best success I've had is explaining that there is no daylight between being a prostitute and a construction worker. you're breaking your body for a boss that couldn't give a poo poo about you and at the end of the day you really need a shower.
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Less than 27% of parents use the parental controls to keep kids from accessing porn Parents are getting better about controlling screen time in general and keeping kids from being zombies who are just on their phones 24/7 (they're less good about staying off phones themselves, but that's another thread) but it looks like they either don't know how or can't be bothered to actually lock down their child's devices to block porn. Every porn site is registered with RTA, the porn industry itself has ASACP to work together to stop CSAM and make sure everyone on their sites is able to click the "Are you 18?" button, but other than that, what is the industry supposed to do? Obviously being exposed to porn too young is bad, especially porn with specific fetishes like CNC and just generally the very sex-negative way porn is presented in a lot of mainstream films, but what can we do as a society?
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PT6A posted:More than that, I think it needs to address the questions that are currently being incorrectly answered by porn.  I want to draw attention to that last line: "have fun, respect each other, practice safer sex" because that's like, the platonic ideal of healthy adult sexuality and it's super hosed up that porn can tell my kid that but not a health instructor at school.
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The Butcher posted:Deepfaking your actor of choice who doesn't do porn or whatever other sort of celeb is also reallllly creepy weird, and you should feel dirty and bad for doing that, but I think that's pretty inevitable, because humans.  Too bad, it's here. I wonder, though, if you think Deepfaking your actor of choice is realllly creepy if it's slashfic of Kirk/Spock written by women 40 years ago? Or whatever nonsense AO3 is pumping out about kissing Harry Styles?
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Shrecknet posted:https://twitter.com/laurenbarton03/status/1632769865122545664 Aaaaaand it's real: https://nypost.com/2023/12/25/lifestyle/son-uses-ai-to-resurrect-dead-father-for-christmas/
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Pornhub Has a New Kink: Consent posted:Pornhub notified performers this week that the platform is requiring proof of consent from anyone featured in its videos moving forward, according to emails seen by 404 Media Thursday. The policy update is Pornhub’s latest effort to verify that its performers are not being abused or sexually trafficked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_o8vYUU-jo&t=16s
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