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did the allies get credit for fragging their own tank? someone give that artillerymoron a medal
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# ? May 10, 2023 00:16 |
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# ? May 4, 2024 01:54 |
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Thanks for showcasing this game, Grey. Ended up getting it myself. It's overall a fun little game, but it also feels like a missed opportunity for a game set in WW1. The systems and mechanics combine in such a way that, to me at least, the most effective way to play the game is to fight your battles in a hyper modern way, where accurate and instantly responsive heavy artillery destroys enemy positions, guided from a bird's eye view, and small (or relatively small in-game) infantry detachments mop up the enemy remains. And, especially as the Germans, you can do this from turn one. All the new tools, gas, siege artillery, bombers etc. just seem to waste tons of supply compared to just directing 27 supplies' worth of heavy artillery at every trench section. Tanks seem to be an exception, and grossly overpowered. This isn't helped by the AI building bad trench systems and only 30 units being allowed on the field, which usually leads battles to follow a certain formula: 1. Break-in at one of the control points 2. Slaughter AI reinforcements in the open 3. Mop up. It feels like the game would have the potential to represent the actual dilemmas involved in WW1 if you couldn't concentrate your corps so easily, there was more infantry on the field to allow for both proper defense in depth and actually overwhelming the enemy, and the artillery had more limitations wrt. their call-in time and accuracy. Oh well, it's still fun watching your overlapping fields of fire mow down Tommies by the bushel while adjusting your imaginary monocle and muttering Gott im Himmel.
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# ? May 10, 2023 10:12 |
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I feel like if machine gun nests were cheaper and more plentiful it would make it a lot more stalematey
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# ? May 10, 2023 15:02 |
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Let's see if I can learn how to attack!
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# ? May 11, 2023 10:19 |
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God drat, Tanks are just broken in this game. What's really gets me is there is no real counter. And as soon as a tank gets to your line RIP your first line of trenches at least, as well as any support weapons like mg nest or mortar nests.
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# ? May 11, 2023 11:33 |
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There's something funny about those awkward wwi tanks going around at 100 mph, while doing sick 180 no scope moves along the way
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# ? May 11, 2023 11:59 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:God drat, Tanks are just broken in this game. What's really gets me is there is no real counter. And as soon as a tank gets to your line RIP your first line of trenches at least, as well as any support weapons like mg nest or mortar nests. Grenadiers melt tanks if they can get in range or the tank is careless. Like, two seconds top. E: but agreed they feel too powerful for the time period E2: tanks are not the only units bringing WW2 and later tech capabilities to the fight, bombers can kill tanks in three bombs IIRC. Bomber AI is even semi-decent at prioritizing them Omobono fucked around with this message at 13:59 on May 11, 2023 |
# ? May 11, 2023 12:41 |
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Part of the problem is that "realistic" WW1 tanks would be egregiously bad and unfun as a game mechanic, what with having tank crews passing out from heat stroke, engine breakdowns on every 200ft traveled, discovering that bullets striking thin steel plating creates spallation fragments, driving the wrong direction because of limited vision and everything is a featureless brown mess, etc. On the other hand you have perfect realtime information instead of having to piece together contradictory scouting reports from X hours ago, and your units don't suffer communication errors and just randomly gently caress off to follow misinterpreted orders, planes don't spontaneously crash from mechanical failures, etc.
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# ? May 11, 2023 15:57 |
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Tanks are so hard to get!
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# ? May 13, 2023 07:09 |
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I'm so close to getting those tanks!
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# ? May 15, 2023 05:54 |
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A little trick I noticed for MG/mortar nests is that while they need to be at the end of a trench. communications trenches count. So if you make a single section communication trench in the middle of nowhere, not connected to your trench network, you can deploy MG/mortar at its ends. Also holy poo poo mortars melt infantry.
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# ? May 15, 2023 12:45 |
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Time to use the tanks!
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# ? May 17, 2023 06:46 |
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For research, based off the thread, rush elite troops. Grenadiers murder tanks so you need that for your defensive battles
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# ? May 17, 2023 07:20 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:For research, based off the thread, rush elite troops. Grenadiers murder tanks so you need that for your defensive battles A tank can simply reverse and machine gun them from outside their range, and you get like 2 squads per corps. They do force a slowdown though. A parked tank is vulnerable to bombers, mortars and other tanks so screening grenadiers are a good support for other anti-tank defenses. E: tonks German tanks are medium?heavy? tanks with a front cannon and a lot of machine guns. They can cross all enemy manned trenches and the cannons/mg have restricted firing arcs. The second next research grants the supporting antiair flakpanzer. British tanks are half heavy tanks with a frontal cannon and three mgs, half medium with no cannon and 5 mgs. They can cross all enemy manned trenches. The supporting tank is the light tank 'whippet'. 4 mg and can only cross lvl 1 trenches when manned by enemies. French tonks suck but their cannon has 360 range so no blind spots. I don't remember if they count as light or medium. No clue how USA tanks work, I usually eat the 5 morale penalty for mixed nationalities and just have the UK tanks everywhere. Omobono fucked around with this message at 10:05 on May 17, 2023 |
# ? May 17, 2023 09:55 |
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Let's see what some more upgrades can get me!
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# ? May 19, 2023 10:14 |
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I get my first proper victory! and it feels good!
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# ? May 21, 2023 06:10 |
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Well done! One victory down, hundreds to go!
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# ? May 21, 2023 16:48 |
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Now, just weather their counter-attacks, and find somewhere else to push deep. Seems like the tanks are crucial, moving down their in-battle counter attacks easily.
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# ? May 21, 2023 17:04 |
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Does the game end if you each a certain date?
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# ? May 21, 2023 17:35 |
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There's an achievement for reaching January 1919, so I assume there's no hard coded limit. Tanks are far too good for the historical period, so it's no wonder they're key to winning battles.
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# ? May 21, 2023 19:52 |
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Things finally seem to be coming together!
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# ? May 23, 2023 06:27 |
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Was about to say, using the tanks on offense to neuter any enemy counter attacks seems to be the real smart play. It is breaking up the enemy well. Hoping you can do a breakthrough and maybe encircle the enemy line.
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# ? May 23, 2023 17:05 |
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I begin the last offensive of the war.
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# ? May 25, 2023 05:35 |
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Paris by Christmas!* *2025
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# ? May 25, 2023 08:40 |
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Serpentis posted:Paris by Christmas!* Look, I never said how long it would take!
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# ? May 25, 2023 08:54 |
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I honestly wonder why socialists even bothered protesting the war, they could have just set a huge meat grinder in every possible city square and kept on quietly grinding meat all day long. If people didn't 'get' that then they wouldn't be swayed by by anything anyone could say.
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# ? May 25, 2023 10:01 |
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I slam into the allied lines as things finally start to go well!
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# ? May 27, 2023 03:07 |
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So, now that the war is over, are you gonna try again, this time from the Entente side?
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# ? May 31, 2023 13:14 |
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Looks like once you find a working strategy, there is never any reason to deviate from it?
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# ? May 31, 2023 13:18 |
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steinrokkan posted:Looks like once you find a working strategy, there is never any reason to deviate from it? Yeah, but I'm not sure how much of that is knowing what tech works - I can see going different ways down the tech list would alter your stratergy, but tanks seem to be needed to win - which I guess is kind of historically accurate! bunnyofdoom posted:So, now that the war is over, are you gonna try again, this time from the Entente side? Maybe in a bit, I'd like to do another game of Rule the waves, or something else (Chaos Gate Demon Hunters could be fun, and I've not beaten that yet, Rimworld is another I've been meaning to go back to), but I would like to see what I could do with a better idea of what works.
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# ? May 31, 2023 13:43 |
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I think my takeaway of what works is Siege artillery, Tanks, layer defensive lines, light arty on attacks. Planes are hit or miss Intel is p. Useless
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# ? May 31, 2023 13:55 |
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I would love to participate in a classic goon Combat Mission LP if you feel up to it, Grey.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 05:41 |
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# ? May 4, 2024 01:54 |
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Who do you think was 'dead guy in trench' #74799 ? Better put up a better showing next time.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 05:51 |