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Thesaurus posted:I also liked the part where 500 cops are shooting at three guys standing in the middle of the street. But deniro somehow fights them off literally single handedly while carrying his wounded friend to safety https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout worked about the same way. Your split’s in the car outside.
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Thesaurus posted:Deniro and a random artist woman instantly fall for each other. This makes sense because she's "seen him in the store before"...? I don't agree with your other complaints (maybe we watched different cuts?) but this one made my eyes roll back hard while watching the movie. Gee, who can resist a quiet, chubby, very private 51 year old in a bar, studying metallurgy
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yeah the deniro love interest part being really unbelievable is a valid criticism that many people have made. it doesnt bother me too much but i can see why people think it lame
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Maybe Pacino should stick to playing bad guys instead of cops. (Except for serpico, but that's because he's the enemy of the other cops). Reverse the rolls with deniro...
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It's mostly there to add stakes to McCauley's "drop everything in 30 seconds" mantra but it's not the most unrealistic thing in the world either. I will admit in my most recent rewatch that all the 90s Divorced Dad Energy coming off the script hasn't aged very well. Laterite fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Feb 10, 2024 |
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Shumagorath posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout worked about the same way. except that both robbers died on the scene, one killed himself after being shot a bunch of times and the other bled out on the street after being shot a bunch of times and the cops wouldnt let an ambulance come close. no one got away long enough to drive longingly past their ex's sting operation or have a one on one confrontation on the LAX tarmac
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thathonkey posted:yeah the deniro love interest part being really unbelievable is a valid criticism that many people have made. it doesnt bother me too much but i can see why people think it lame Huh It was not at all to me ? The guy has charisma Quiet bad guys, YUM She was lonely. I thought it was well done
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Earwicker posted:except that both robbers died on the scene, one killed himself after being shot a bunch of times and the other bled out on the street after being shot a bunch of times and the cops wouldnt let an ambulance come close. no one got away long enough to drive longingly past their ex's sting operation or have a one on one confrontation on the LAX tarmac skill issue
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Laterite posted:skill issue
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Thesaurus posted:I regret that I watched every minute. Ah gotcha, you were folding laundry while talking to someone on your phone during the movie
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In the movie you can also tell McCauley's crew have some sort of military experience or training. They're doing 'bounding overwatch' during the shootout - essentially an armed game of leapfrog where one element lays down covering fire while another moves and then they alternate. I believe their opening volley was also a 'violence of action' move to create psychological dominance and force the cops to establish a wide perimeter. All of this tracks with having Andy McNabb as a consultant on the film, and while it's never explicitly stated IIRC I think the implication is there that the crew drilled in preparation for scenarios like this and weren't simply getting lucky. You see this proficiency earlier in the movie too, at the drive-in shootout and indeed right off the drop at the truck heist. Den of Thieves has the robbers demonstrate similar proficiency and a textbook bounding overwatch drill in the highway shootout, but it's almost too clean and them calling out "moving"/"shooting" kinda cheapens it. Matter of fact maybe the most unbelievable shootouts are in The Town, where no effort is really made to show they're doing things 'by the book', yet they make it out mostly unscathed except when the one guy doesn't want to. That movie still rules though.
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i want to see a movie about that hosed up set of incidents someone linked way earlier in the thread, from belgium. bunch of robbers with clear military training assault several businesses including i think a grocery store and seem to outnumber or scare off the cops. but then the more you read about it, the more clear it becomes that the robbers are gendarmes (military police) themselves. but it wasnt really clear what the aim of the whole thing was and they didnt end up taking a lot of money or anything. i think there was some connection to operation gladio/"stay behind networks" and all that as well
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Earwicker posted:i want to see a movie about that hosed up set of incidents someone linked way earlier in the thread, from belgium. bunch of robbers with clear military training assault several businesses including i think a grocery store and seem to outnumber or scare off the cops. but then the more you read about it, the more clear it becomes that the robbers are gendarmes (military police) themselves. but it wasnt really clear what the aim of the whole thing was and they didnt end up taking a lot of money or anything. i think there was some connection to operation gladio/"stay behind networks" and all that as well did you mean the Pink Panther robberies, or something different?
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If you want the movie that Michael Mann never directed or wrote then you want to watch To Live and Die in La. Its probably one of the great cops and criminals movie ever.
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Earwicker posted:i want to see a movie about that hosed up set of incidents someone linked way earlier in the thread, from belgium. bunch of robbers with clear military training assault several businesses including i think a grocery store and seem to outnumber or scare off the cops. but then the more you read about it, the more clear it becomes that the robbers are gendarmes (military police) themselves. but it wasnt really clear what the aim of the whole thing was and they didnt end up taking a lot of money or anything. i think there was some connection to operation gladio/"stay behind networks" and all that as well The Brabant Killers French Wikipedia provides some more details as well  It kinda seems like some Belgium Gendarmes got absolutely tweaked out of their minds and went on a rampage
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No seriously To Live and Die in La is amazing. Please watch it.
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Vampire Panties posted:The Brabant Killers wait, there is a french wikipedia? How do they feel about wine?
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Vampire Panties posted:The Brabant Killers Oh man, that's pretty interesting. I thought OP was talking about Nokas, which was about a real life heist in Norway perpetrated by former military members (and the movie was directed by the guy who did the original Insomnia).
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Hollismason posted:If you want the movie that Michael Mann never directed or wrote then you want to watch To Live and Die in La. Its probably one of the great cops and criminals movie ever. Hollismason posted:No seriously To Live and Die in La is amazing. Please watch it.
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Hollismason posted:No seriously To Live and Die in La is amazing. Please watch it. One of my favorite Friedkin films of all time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBPynHY8XnQ
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Hollismason posted:No seriously To Live and Die in La is amazing. Please watch it. Yeah this rips and the less you know going in the better.
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To Live and Die in LA and Manhunter make a great double feature.
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Hollismason posted:No seriously To Live and Die in La is amazing. Please watch it. I'm getting too old for this poo poo.
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I watched it yesterday and wondered if Chance and other agent were drugged by the priest during their stakeout. Masters was aware of their surveillance, and wouldn't have showed up to kill Waxman without knowing he was safe. It's never mentioned, but it seemed like it made sense.
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The recurring theme of Chance being kind of poo poo at his job is great, there were so many moments where just a little bit of self reflection or double-checking would have saved his rear end.
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Its pretty obvious he was reliant on his partner to reign him in and once his partner was gone then he was on his self destructive path.
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that was a good movie. didnt know daphne moon had that checkered of a past!
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I watched The Keep tonight on Pluto TV. This movie owns in the same way Ridley Scott's Legend owns. Both are scored by Tangerine Dream. Not a perfect movie by any stretch but I love the use of slow motion and the dreamlike tone. The stone edifice of The Keep itself is brutal and unnatural and the demon looks pretty cool early on when he's made of smoke, not so much later in the movie as he gains power and becomes a rubbery golem.
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to live and die in la has a really weird few shots at the end. chase's truck pulling up and parking somewhere, then after the credits there's a like jump-scare sound hit with a close-up of chase's face. what was up with those
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gently caress I forgot I grabbed To Live and Die in LA, I was looking forward to seeing that / running it for the squad also I've just upgraded disks in the plex, please continue recommending movies, this thread doesn't miss
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Taking Care of Business with James Belushi and Charles Grodin.
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Cactus Ghost posted:to live and die in la has a really weird few shots at the end. chase's truck pulling up and parking somewhere, then after the credits there's a like jump-scare sound hit with a close-up of chase's face. what was up with those I, too, have always been puzzled by the meaning of the last shot in this film. Can the thread help?
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Code Jockey posted:please continue recommending movies, this thread doesn't miss yep i've picked up a half dozen bangers probably from this thread alone
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Rascar Capac posted:I, too, have always been puzzled by the meaning of the last shot in this film. Can the thread help? Vukovich has basically become Chance, at the end. The end of the film is him pulling up at Ruthie’s place in Chance’s truck, and knocking on the door to tell her she’s now working as an informant for him, and she isn’t going to be leaving town like she planned. That last shot is Ruthie looking at Vukovich but seeing Chance, and realizing her nightmare isn’t over. A bit ham-handed, but probably better than the other ending they shot, where Chance is alive and the two of them have been banished by the Secret Service to some place in Alaska.
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Code Jockey posted:gently caress I forgot I grabbed To Live and Die in LA, I was looking forward to seeing that / running it for the squad i'm assuming most people itt have already seen it but Ronin fits in well here and is always good for a rewatch imo
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MrMojok posted:Vukovich has basically become Chance, at the end. right, but why put the shot of him pulling up as the last shot
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MrMojok posted:Vukovich has basically become Chance, at the end. Great, thanks!
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Started reading the Heat 2 novel. Man, that robbery makes it really hard to get into it. I felt really sad and put it down for a bit.
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Cactus Ghost posted:right, but why put the shot of him pulling up as the last shot Oh, I think it’s just one of those “Remember, some of our audience is dumb” things and they figured they’d better show Chance to ram home the idea that Vukovich is the new Chance, for those who didn’t get it?
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