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istewart posted:I know I'm not the only one out there who thinks Clooney deserves a mulligan Fun fact about Batman & Robin: Arnold Schwarzenegger got $25 million for his part and he's only actually on screen for 30 minutes. Dude was being paid almost $1 million per minute. Hollywood!!! haljordan fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 9, 2023 |
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istewart posted:I know I'm not the only one out there who thinks Clooney deserves a mulligan
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haljordan posted:That movie inspired actual criminals to do the same exact poo poo in real life and it went even worse for the cops. And there were only two of them. wikipedia posted:Mătăsăreanu was incapacitated by officers three blocks away and subsequently bled to death before the arrival of paramedics more than an hour later. they barely even killed them. kinda cheated here with a dirty delayed ambulance tactic
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Iirc the family of that dude filed a suit against the LAPD for cruelty/withholding lifesaving aid. Wonder what ever happened to that
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Nuts and Gum posted:What’s up with William Fichtner? He flies under the radar but kicks rear end in everything he does. I was just thinking exactly this same thought. Remember that bizarre body snatcher tv show he was in, in like 2005? Invasion, where aliens land in the bayou or something and take over the town one at a time. That show was great and he was great in it. BigHead fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Apr 10, 2023 |
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haljordan posted:Fun fact about Batman & Robin: Arnold Schwarzenegger got $25 million for his part and he's only actually on screen for 30 minutes. Dude was being paid almost $1 million per minute. Hollywood!!! He earned every penny with his performance
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Nuts and Gum posted:What’s up with William Fichtner? He flies under the radar but kicks rear end in everything he does. all-timer moment here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkdLWuCRe0c
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I had trouble with Heat because of the closeup shots of gross rear end Pacino making out with hot young women for extended periods of time.
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Caesar Saladin posted:I had trouble with Heat because of the closeup shots of gross rear end Pacino making out with hot young women for extended periods of time. I’m just glad they reshot the ending. The original ended with them bonding over their love of Dunkin Donuts
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haljordan posted:Yeah Michael Mann insisting on using real locations and basically no soundstages is why it sounds so loving awesome. You almost never, ever see that kind of stuff nowadays. They started robbing armored cars long before the movie came out though. If anything the Norco Heist was probably more of a inspiration for the movie, where a group of survivalists tried to rob a bank for all of $20,000 and ended up in a running gun battle with most of the cops in Riverside and shot down a helicopter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFZ9i2rssQ And possibly the Miami shootout where the FBI bungled a stop on two bank robbers who kept fighting through insane levels of injury. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8cByaVyNQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBGfKtuo2AM quote:McNeill returned fire with six shots from his revolver, hitting Matix with two rounds in the head and neck. Matix apparently was knocked unconscious by the hits and fired no more rounds.[b] McNeill was then shot in the hand and, due to his wound and blood in his revolver's chambers, could not reload.[12] quote:Platt chose a position by the passenger side front fender of the Cutlass. He fired a .357 Magnum revolver at agents Ronald Risner and Gilbert Orrantia, and was shot a fourth time when turning to fire at Hanlon, Dove, and Grogan. The bullet, fired by Orrantia's revolver, penetrated Platt's right forearm, fractured the radius bone and exited the forearm. This wound caused Platt to drop his revolver.[e] It is estimated that Platt was shot a fifth time shortly afterwards, this time by Risner. The bullet penetrated Platt's right upper arm, exited below the armpit and entered his torso, stopping below his shoulder blade. The wound was not serious.[f] quote:Grogan and Dove were kneeling alongside the driver's side of their car. Both were preoccupied with getting Dove's weapon working and did not detect that Platt was aggressively advancing upon them. Platt rounded the rear of their car and killed Grogan with a shot to the chest, shot Hanlon in the groin area, and then killed Dove with two shots to the head. Platt then entered the Grogan/Dove car in an apparent attempt to flee the scene.[g] As Platt entered Grogan and Dove's car, Mireles, able to use only one arm, fired the first of five rounds from his pump-action shotgun, wounding Platt in both feet.[12] At an unknown time, Matix had regained consciousness and he joined Platt in the car, entering via the passenger door. Mireles fired four more rounds at Platt and Matix, but hit neither.[h]
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Heat is quite possibly a perfect film.
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Poohs Packin posted:Heat is quite possibly a perfect film. Last of the Mohicans is so loving good (Daniel Day-Lewis just walks into a movie and makes it great, I digress) but Heat, I think, takes the cake for Mann's directorial career. Helps that he got to make it as a TV movie as a dry run first, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67GQrmY59rg Waingro always dies because he's a loving rat and his death is remorseless MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Apr 10, 2023 |
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One of the coolest movies ever, ruined only slightly due to Sizemore being a huge weirdo
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Professor Shark posted:One of the coolest movies ever, ruined only slightly due to Sizemore being a huge weirdo Cool it, Slick! Have a deleted scene of Tom being a psycho family man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gQmLJXoGw8
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money making game posted:Cool it, Slick! Have a deleted scene of Tom being a psycho family man. Lol not only does that not make the character better, it actively makes him worse knowing his fate
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFMtTF0hgBE i buy it
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I just saw Heat for the first time a few weeks ago and I love how I’m seeing Heat discussion everywhere, constantly. It’s not a Baader-Meinhof thing, it’s just Heat is cool and people are still talking about it
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roomtwofifteen posted:I just saw Heat for the first time a few weeks ago and I love how I’m seeing Heat discussion everywhere, constantly. It really is a stellar movie.
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Everyone needs to watch all of Mann's movies. The only turd is Black Hat, which I still sorta like. And watch the Miami Vice pilot "Brother's Keeper" while you're at it. He didn't direct it, but his fingerprints are alllll over it.
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I remember being all, "wowe the sound quality is amazing!!!!" But now I'm like I don't want to listen to guns making noises.
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There's a 4K version of the heist on YouTube, and the new colour grading makes it look like it's taking place in the Matrix.  The mid-90s were a great time to see acclaimed actor Robert de Niro unleashing automatic weapons in heist movies. Really good ones!
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roomtwofifteen posted:I just saw Heat for the first time a few weeks ago and I love how I’m seeing Heat discussion everywhere, constantly. Its because the movie is largely about isolation and that's more relevant than ever.
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Lmao.... Isolation? Please SMG enlighten us.
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Hardawn posted:Lmao.... Isolation? Please SMG enlighten us. I dont know what SMG is. But sure: The film is lonely. The characters are all isolated from each other and their relationships are falling apart because of it. The two main characters are for lack of a better word "obsessed" with each other but only share a few minutes together. LA is portrayed as a vast and impersonal sprawl. Neil's house is blank and set against waves. It might as well be nowhere. The love interest story arch is basically two people from completely incompatible backgrounds searching for connection and failing. Edit: this isn't like, my interpretation. A simple google search yields multiple results from established critics discussing the films themes of lonliness, isolation, etc.
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Poohs Packin posted:I dont know what SMG is. But sure: Plus that whole scene with Pacino's wife chewing him out, her whole speech is pretty on topic
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Lol, pretty sure movies don't have themes, guy.
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Poohs Packin posted:I dont know what SMG is. But sure: yeah and he also continues the theme in Collateral. which is just as good as Heat imo
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 "Pacific" by Alex Colville (1967)
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haljordan posted:Fun fact about Batman & Robin: Arnold Schwarzenegger got $25 million for his part and he's only actually on screen for 30 minutes. Dude was being paid almost $1 million per minute. Hollywood!!! Let's be real here; if a studio wanted me to yell ice-puns for all 30 of those minutes AND asked me how much I wanted for it you better believe I'd start high on my price.
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Poohs Packin posted:I dont know what SMG is. But sure: It's obvious through the film that Neil is lonely, and purposefully so. Err, excuse me "alone, not lonely". Anyway, Eady is really in the same situation: she doesn't really have friends. Is isolated, career just kinda not going anywhere. Neil's downfall was pretty inevitable, and the plot demanded it. He stuck to loyalty to his crew (going for one last job) and his credo (drop everything if the heat comes around the corner). He could have refused his closest friend (Chris Shiherlis) and have been done. He absolutely could have escaped with Eady if he had just gone with her in the car. Vincent, having killed Neil, is none for the better: he's going through the motions of a recently detonated marriage and will still be stuck as the hunter. Shiherlis survives but can no likely no longer see Charlene or his son again. He bears the bigger cost than Neil: he lives, but can never see his family again. He's forced to live by Neil's credo. Doctor Butts fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Apr 13, 2023 |
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Mister Speaker posted:Henry Rollins as Fichtner's goon is pretty hilarious. I bet he hated shooting the scene where Pacino tosses him around like a ragdoll. It was actually the complete opposite, he was beyond geeked to be working with Pacino and had a pretty good (and wild) time shooting the scenes with him: quote:“Michael Mann said, ‘Your character has scenes with Al Pacino, but if Al doesn’t like you, you can’t be in the movie. So we’re going to have lunch to see if he likes you,'” Mann explained. “I’m like, ‘Uh? When?’ He goes, ‘We’re leaving now.’ We walked out with my jaw on the floor and went to some high-class Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills.” In another interview, he talked about how he had to convince Pacino to really hit him in order to make the beating look real (and how Pacino gave him more than he was expecting): quote:Now, Al Pacino and I [take over the scene], recovering on rubberized glass bits. Al has to grab me, call me a bunch of names and slap me around. He’s a nice man, he doesn’t want to hurt me. He slaps me a little [in perfect Pacino inflection]: “You bastard!” He slaps me and I say [off camera], “Al, sir, we really have to sell this. So you should really haul off and whack me.” [as Pacino] “I don’t want to hurt you.” I said, “Look at this face. What could you possibly do to it that wasn’t done by some guy in San Diego who had five rings on his hand.” He goes, “OK.” Al invests in the moment. So the next take he grabs me by my hair so hard I almost started crying and he hauls off and whacks me across the face to where I could feel it in my toes. “You bastard, you! (whack, whack!)” My face went numb. Thankfully, after a few takes of that [facetiously], we got it! It’s Michael Mann, it’s a lot of takes. Too bad they used one of the earlier takes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL9fnVtz_lc Just rewatched it, the bit at the end when Pacino takes Sizemore down actually got me a little because you see that Pacino is so reckless he will risk shooting that girl to take out the robber, and his expression reflects that.
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this sounds like a good movie why didn't i hear of it until now
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buffalo bill and the allstate guy gettin got pretty much immediately
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erosion posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL9fnVtz_lc
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Spinz posted:Thats like an impossible shot right? I mean realistically Not if you're a big dick playa 
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