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haljordan posted:Yeah Michael Mann insisting on using real locations and basically no soundstages is why it sounds so loving awesome. You almost never, ever see that kind of stuff nowadays. They started robbing armored cars long before the movie came out though. If anything the Norco Heist was probably more of a inspiration for the movie, where a group of survivalists tried to rob a bank for all of $20,000 and ended up in a running gun battle with most of the cops in Riverside and shot down a helicopter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFZ9i2rssQ And possibly the Miami shootout where the FBI bungled a stop on two bank robbers who kept fighting through insane levels of injury. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8cByaVyNQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBGfKtuo2AM quote:McNeill returned fire with six shots from his revolver, hitting Matix with two rounds in the head and neck. Matix apparently was knocked unconscious by the hits and fired no more rounds.[b] McNeill was then shot in the hand and, due to his wound and blood in his revolver's chambers, could not reload.[12] quote:Platt chose a position by the passenger side front fender of the Cutlass. He fired a .357 Magnum revolver at agents Ronald Risner and Gilbert Orrantia, and was shot a fourth time when turning to fire at Hanlon, Dove, and Grogan. The bullet, fired by Orrantia's revolver, penetrated Platt's right forearm, fractured the radius bone and exited the forearm. This wound caused Platt to drop his revolver.[e] It is estimated that Platt was shot a fifth time shortly afterwards, this time by Risner. The bullet penetrated Platt's right upper arm, exited below the armpit and entered his torso, stopping below his shoulder blade. The wound was not serious.[f] quote:Grogan and Dove were kneeling alongside the driver's side of their car. Both were preoccupied with getting Dove's weapon working and did not detect that Platt was aggressively advancing upon them. Platt rounded the rear of their car and killed Grogan with a shot to the chest, shot Hanlon in the groin area, and then killed Dove with two shots to the head. Platt then entered the Grogan/Dove car in an apparent attempt to flee the scene.[g] As Platt entered Grogan and Dove's car, Mireles, able to use only one arm, fired the first of five rounds from his pump-action shotgun, wounding Platt in both feet.[12] At an unknown time, Matix had regained consciousness and he joined Platt in the car, entering via the passenger door. Mireles fired four more rounds at Platt and Matix, but hit neither.[h]
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Nuts and Gum posted:Cops can’t even hit something without unloading 17 rounds and they have mandatory training lol The vast majority of police training is poo poo, stuff like "show up and get half a box of ammunition onto the paper once a year." Average hit rate for cops is like 15-17%. Florida recently went to constitutional/licenseless carry and there was a bunch of handwringing about "untrained people with guns", but this is the standard for cops in Florida. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGXuCvheGt8 The FBI qualification program is pretty good for law enforcement training, see the stuff about the Miami shootout for as to why, but can be done with a pistol that doesn't have sights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZvmzArslgs There's a common claim that if you actively seek out training, even if it's just doing stuff yourself, you're better than 99% of other gun owners, but you're probably also doing better than 99% of cops too.
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