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Fuschia tude posted:I feel like it's better, honestly. Not just because it's written at a higher grade level. I wonder how much of that feeling is just because the last half of Animorphs was nearly all ghostwriters, though. This is also where Michael Grant started gestating a lot of his ideas for the Gone series, so if you're familiar with that at all you might pick up on certain things here that, like certain elements of Animorphs, form the DNA of what he would later go on to do in a more fully realized fashion.
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nine-gear crow posted:This is also where Michael Grant started gestating a lot of his ideas for the Gone series, so if you're familiar with that at all you might pick up on certain things here that, like certain elements of Animorphs, form the DNA of what he would later go on to do in a more fully realized fashion. Nope. I'd never heard of it or any of their other works until watching a few interviews a couple years ago after I started reading the last thread here. Aside from filling in my Animorphs gap in that thread, I haven't read any Applegrant stories since the first 10 Everworld books.
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# ? Apr 29, 2023 00:07 |
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Chapter 10quote:I was shaking. I’d always hoped, assumed, believed I was brave, but I was shaking. I glanced left and saw April. She was crying. I couldn’t see Christopher, but I did see Jalil. His eyes were narrowed, his lips pressed tight. Scared but not panicky. So no idea who the Hetwan or Ka Anor are. Huitzilopoctli was the Aztec god of war and the sun, though. He was usually portrayed as a hummingbird, and his name means 'Hummingbird of the South". (The Aztecs believed that the land of the dead was to the south, and that dead warriors were reincarnated as hummingbirds.)
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# ? Apr 29, 2023 04:11 |
This is really some fascinating world building. The gods are real, they were on earth, but there was a cataclysm that booted them off and created everworld. I doubt this is gonna be the rise of monotheism over the panthiesitic nature of older religions, but that'd be a cool twist. How long are these books compared to animorphs?
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# ? Apr 30, 2023 16:00 |
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Soonmot posted:How long are these books compared to animorphs? Book 1 has 32 chapters, compared to book one of Animorphs, which has 27.
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# ? Apr 30, 2023 20:50 |
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Chapter 11quote:We marched from the great hall away from Loki and Fenrir. See, David was scared, but in the end, he came through.
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# ? May 1, 2023 03:01 |
I'm really wondering what is up with senna. She's April's sister, but Loki says she's his witch. I'm also wondering if these kids get powers from being here,. All stuff that will be revealed in time, I guess.
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Chapter 12quote:It was a long tunnel. And a long way between flickering skull-sconce torches. Worst of all, the tunnel was not straight. It was curving, and the more it curved the more we feared it might lead back to Loki and the men and trolls who must be looking for us. Our footsteps seemed awfully loud. And we were leaving prints in the dust. So as you can see, there's some tension there.
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# ? May 2, 2023 04:22 |
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Sorry about this. Posting the next chapter tomorrow
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# ? May 3, 2023 04:42 |
Epicurius posted:Sorry about this. Posting the next chapter tomorrow No worries pal
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# ? May 3, 2023 13:16 |
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Chapter 13quote:Fifty-seven Advil. The snake is probably the Midgard Serpent, one of Loki's children, apparently taking a break from eating the World Tree.
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# ? May 4, 2023 03:57 |
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Chapter 14quote:I gripped Jalil’s hand but his fingers escaped. So now that we're about halfway through the book, what do people thing? Lot fewer comments on this than there had been on Animorphs, which I put down to people having a bunch of Animorph nostalga.
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# ? May 5, 2023 04:20 |
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Yeah probably. It's interesting in a "kids in way over their head" sort of way, but I can see why I stopped around this part - there's no clear objective for our protagonist (find Senna I guess) and you still have no idea what this world is about (besides "gods") or what our protagonists are supposed to be doing (are they going to get powers? Have to use cunning? Learn new skills? Just run and hide?). Constrast that with animorphs, Harry Potter or like the Hunger Games (other books for a similar demographic). You know what you're in for within one to three chapters.
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# ? May 5, 2023 07:54 |
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kiminewt posted:
I haven't read hunger games but as far as I can tell, part of the difference between this and the Amimorphs and Harry Potter, in those, each book I'd a stand alone story. There's an goal that runs throughout the books (get the Yeerks off Earth, stop Voldemort), but you can read one biik in the series abd have a full story. As far as I can tell, this is one story told over 12 books.
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# ? May 5, 2023 12:37 |
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Yeah, I think one of the reasons Everworld had some issues taking off is that we really don't even have the full setup yet and we're halfway through the book. I'm actually a bit surprised looking back that we haven't seen some of the basic stuff yet
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# ? May 5, 2023 13:14 |
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I'm having a good time, but I always preferred it to Animorphs. I guess the heavier continuity is part of the appeal, for me? The kids never totally settle into a routine or a status quo. The dynamics between them are always shifting. The best parts, the things that stick out in my memory, are basically the four of them bouncing off each other, like in the corridor scene earlier.
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# ? May 5, 2023 14:02 |
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I had a collection of the first few books in a single volume that I read, but god I retained nothing. I think a lot of the engagement issue is what you said, we're halfway through the first book and I have no idea the direction it's going.
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Kazzah posted:I'm having a good time, but I always preferred it to Animorphs. I guess the heavier continuity is part of the appeal, for me? The kids never totally settle into a routine or a status quo. The dynamics between them are always shifting. The best parts, the things that stick out in my memory, are basically the four of them bouncing off each other, like in the corridor scene earlier. Animorphs is a bit like an older TV show, where there’s some light continuity but you can watch episodes out of order, miss one, etc, and still have a pretty good grasp of what’s going on, due to the fact that its premise is mostly used as a springboard for self-contained adventures and there’s a lot of returning to the status quo until the endgame significantly changes things. Everworld, by contrast, is more like a modern show — it’s more of a singular thing you’re meant to experience in its entirety.
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# ? May 5, 2023 16:14 |
I will say that the action sequences are better than many of the ones in Animorphs. I think that's a consequence of being able to write for an older audience instead of being hamstrung by tween language. But yeah, I posted earlier that I'm wondering what the kids are going to have to do to survive.
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# ? May 5, 2023 18:43 |
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I'm enjoying it and In excited to see what happens when Applegrant doesn't have to pull their punches as much (it's pretty great so far) but yeah I have zero idea where this is going right now, and I can see that turning off a lot of kids. And there's no obvious hook, like Animorphs has the whole THEY TURN INTO ANIMALS!!! gimmick to get kids to grab the book.
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# ? May 5, 2023 19:55 |
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yeah, i'm also enjoying this so far, but having very much no idea of what's going on or where we're headed means i don't have a lot to say about it yet
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# ? May 5, 2023 20:44 |
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I am also enjoying things regardless of what may or may not be happening in the plot because, as I've said a few times now, I find this series a fascinating bit of protoplasm for what Michael Grant would ultimately wind up doing later in his career with the Gone books and other more mature teen-aimed novels. You can tell he wants to tell the kind of story that takes a 500 page book like Gone to achieve, but he's also bound by Scholatic's edicts where it's gotta be under 120-ish pages, so him and Applegate seem to have gone "okay, gently caress it, the whole series is just one big continuing novel then". We'll see if it holds water or if it sputters out in the future though.
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Chapter 15quote:I dropped rear-first from the air shaft. "Once, Zhuangzi dreamt he was a butterfly. A vivid, vibrant butterfly who didn’t know about Zhang. Suddenly he awoke, and was a startled, surprised Zhang who didn’t know: Was the butterfly in Zhang's dream? Is Zhang in the butterfly’s dream? Zhang and the butterfly—there’s definitely a difference. Let’s call this, things change."-Zhuangzi
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Chapter 16quote:“Yes, Mr. Levin?” the teacher, Mr. Arbuthnot, asked me, arching one eyebrow and peering over the top of his half-glasses. “Was that an exclamation of delight at the contributions made by Galileo?” So morale isn't necessarily that high right now.
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# ? May 8, 2023 03:04 |
Huh so they can hop back and forth if they sleep? I don't think that was a dream.
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Chapter 17quote:The longboats wallowed at anchor, masts bare, empty. Other ships lay beached at the bottom of the crescent-shaped harbor. They’d been pulled up onto a stingy strip of black sand. All together there must have been thirty or forty warships and an equal number of broader-beamed cargo ships. Killing Me Softly is a really good song.
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# ? May 9, 2023 03:53 |
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nine-gear crow posted:You can tell he wants to tell the kind of story that takes a 500 page book like Gone to achieve, but he's also bound by Scholatic's edicts where it's gotta be under 120-ish pages, so him and Applegate seem to have gone "okay, gently caress it, the whole series is just one big continuing novel then". Epicurius posted:Book 1 has 32 chapters, compared to book one of Animorphs, which has 27. Book 1 is 208 pages long, compared to 184 of Animorphs #1. The font and spacing is slightly smaller, too, so the word count is probably more than 10% higher as well.
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# ? May 9, 2023 06:13 |
I literally loled at killing me softly, yeah that song slaps
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Chapter 18quote:There was more to the village than I’d thought. The architecture wasn’t grand or imposing, except for a sort of town hall kind of place that had been built out of whole logs and rose above all the surrounding buildings. So finally some vikings who don't want to kill them on sight. That's a step up.
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# ? May 10, 2023 03:21 |
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Time to sing some Britney, tell the tales of Bilbo Baggins and ask the king what is the deal with ovaltine
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# ? May 10, 2023 11:46 |
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The beer is probably safer to drink here, you clowns!
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There was a group of vikings that rather famously made the trip to North America before Columbus, Jalil.
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Chapter 19quote:‘We don’t exactly have an act,’ April muttered. At leas they liked the song. The trolls might be trouble,though.
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# ? May 11, 2023 03:03 |
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I bet the trolls are the actual minstrels
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# ? May 11, 2023 10:11 |
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Give 'em some Bach on your cd player. e: for actual content, anyone else remember reading Marsden's Tomorrow series? I'd be interested to hear if it got any traction outside of Australia. It had that similar setup of teenagers thrown into danger and chaos, but with a military invasion as the cause rather than a dimensional rip. (Come to think of it, a lot of Australian animorphs fans definitely would have moved on to Tomorrow and felt very familiar with the teenage guerilla drama.) Anyway, the characters always felt incredibly real in a way Everworld's characters don't. But that could just be the nostalgia talking. Tree Bucket fucked around with this message at 03:28 on May 12, 2023 |
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This impromptu song stuck with me forever, I still remember these dumb lyrics better than the original ones
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[Chapter 20quote:‘Trouble,’ Jalil whispered. it seems to me that insulting Loki like that isn't necessarily a good idea.
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# ? May 12, 2023 04:07 |
So I was beginning to think this is a world created by the gods to preserve the Old Ways of life and by extension their own worship, but that doesn't exactly explain the presence of aliens. I do appreciate that there's enough worldbuilding established now that I can have more of a sense of what's going on than "hey, it's Loki, I kinda know his deal." Makes it easier to get invested in the story.
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# ? May 12, 2023 17:45 |
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Chapter 21quote:We sang the “Battle Hymn of the Vikings” about twenty more times till the whole drunken, reeling assembly was singing along with us. Then April sang “Killing Me Softly” again, and it was a mass weepathon. Burly, violent men just boo-hooing and letting the tears run down without shame. So, Jalil explains the trap there in, Gudrun explains the problem their coming has caused the vikings, and David is back home.
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# ? May 13, 2023 03:28 |
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Been quiet in this thread but I really love the writing in this chapter. extremely evocative. can't wait to see where this goes
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