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Chewbecca posted:I am gonna be in Segovia in a few months, driving, didn't know the roads were winding Sorry, mostly dirt roads in Spain. Only a few rich areas of Madrid have running water and electricity. The most dangerous issue is not really the winding dirt mountain roads, but rather the donkeys and wild dogs that might stray across the road and cause you to crash into them. Get an update on your rabies shot too. Less snarky: yes, every road in Spain that is not a dead-end road to a private farmhouse is sealed, as of like 1985. You can also google streetview around the entire country pretty much. https://www.google.com/maps/@40.814...!7i16384!8i8192 If you don't want winding roads at all (imho they are not that windy, but depends what you're used to) you can just pay a few euros to use the toll highway.
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Chewbecca posted:Gonna uhh ignore the snark cos I wasn't implying whatever you think I'm implying lol "Are they sealed roads at least" -- did that mean something besides "I hope they're not dirt/gravel roads"? I thought "sealed" and "paved" are synonyms, but maybe not always? You pay for the tolls at the toll booths, cash or credit -- most highways are free in Spain, but unfortunately not the Madrid-Segovia one. Looks like the toll is €1.75 each way. There are a very few "invisible, booth-free" toll roads in Europe, but none of them in Spain as far as I know. By this I mean the toll highways where you can't tell it's a toll road (except by reading some small sign in a foreign language), where your plates are photographed tracked and you have to go online and look for your car plate number and pay within 72 hours after the fact or get a huge fine. The only one I actually know about is in Italy, north of Milan and it is all of the bullshit, even though I know about it.
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Chewbecca posted:Was the windy road scenic? Or just frustrating? I might do the windy road if there's views to be had/stuff to see Google Street View around and decide for yourself, it's this road: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.776...!8i8192!5m1!1e4 If you live in the Australian Outback then it's stunning mountain scenery, if you live in Canberra, it'll probably be "alright" (although I've never been to Australia so I don't really know). I've done the drive both ways (highway, non-highway) 8 years ago and I still remember the drive back, but only because it goes by the littlest ski resort I've ever seen, the Puerto de Navacerrada. It's very wooded so you don't see much, at least not from Segovia -> Madrid. I haven't done the other direction but looking at how forested it is, and checking out a few spots on Google Street View, I don't think you'll see much either. Segovia is really neat though, I liked it a lot.
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