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i am excited to see what heinously stupid bullshit the 2023 season has in store for all of us
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Would've been a different question a few years ago with noted basketball legend Nick Foles at the helm
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Apr 25, 2023 14:20
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Shinjobi posted:It sucks that the Eagles are going to be even better and still trade wins with the Cowboys when it's all said and done god this is so accurate
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Apr 28, 2023 10:29
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Nervous posted:Look at all those defenders drafted from a defense that is backed up against it's own goal line. i noticed this too but i wasn't going to say anything because as you know i am a fan of the philadelphia eagles
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Apr 28, 2023 19:48
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imo the eagles got beat because of the jalen hurts fumble and their defensive scheme having an enormous flaw that was exploited for back-to-back touchdowns, not the condition of the turf, but: "why did the turf only matter for one team" feels a little disingenuous because it implies bad turf would impact every aspect of the game equally. which just isn't true. that said, the turf didn't only matter for one team, because KC's pass rush — which itself was very good all season, IIRC — also barely got home. but nullifying the KC pash rush didn't gently caress KC's defense like nullifying the philly pass rush hosed theirs.
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May 4, 2023 13:09
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euphronius posted:In the end the league has more invested in Mahomes (esp with Brady retiring ) than hurts so we got the obvious result the oliver stone of the nfc east thread strikes again artistry
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May 4, 2023 13:36
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more than just two weeks, they'd been working on that particular surface for two loving years
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May 4, 2023 14:03
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this is me interacting with anybody cool
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May 5, 2023 10:15
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digging this dark reboot of the nfc east thread
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May 6, 2023 13:47
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doltos you post like prime adrian peterson ran
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May 6, 2023 18:32
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the dallas cowboys nfc championship drought is too old to date leonardo dicaprio by nearly five years
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i dunno man, i was just digging through some of the latest metrics and
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May 9, 2023 01:57
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i am not a man of science
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i think dak prescott is a very good quarterback and i respect his abilities, i just think it's possible to be a very good and respectable quarterback while also never accomplishing anything worth a drat
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May 9, 2023 17:31
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like you can show me all the evidence and metrics and data pointing to dak being a remarkable talent and i will nod along with them because i believe that to be the case, but the second part of that conversation will forever be "okay, but, like, he didn't win anything" until he actually wins something if you asked me right now if i'd take prescott or hurts — eliminating age as a factor — i'd say prescott, just because he's been a good-to-very good QB for a much longer stretch, but if last year doesn't turn out to have been lightning in a bottle and hurts brings the team back to the NFCCG or SB during this window, i have to start looking at what dak's been able to do with his own very good rosters over the years. and that's not scientific or maybe even fair, but unless you're in the marino/manning/rodgers tier you've gotta show you can Do Something in the Postseason and dak is not in the marino/manning/rodgers tier Toaster Beef fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 9, 2023 |
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my recollection of eli, having watched him at least twice a season, is he wouldn't do anything particularly excellent or impressive and you'd think "ah, yeah, we've got this," then you'd look up in the fourth quarter and the giants were up by ten
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May 10, 2023 00:02
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the eagles playing the giants twice in the last three weeks of the season is dumb as poo poo, and that's not even factoring in potential playoff meetups
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May 11, 2023 20:24
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Eagles: @NE MN @TB WAS @LA @NYJ MIA @WAS DAL Bye @KC BUF SF @DAL @SEA NYG ARI @NYG Looks to me like 12-5, maybe 13-4.
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May 12, 2023 01:25
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Hurts over Dak is silly when we've seen so little of Hurts (and enough of Dak to know he's a good-to-very-good QB). I think Hurts has the talent, leadership, and work ethic to establish himself as inarguably better, but saying he's already there is a bit much.
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May 18, 2023 20:44
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yeah like i'm not denying hurts did more with his team this year than dak has at any point in his career and the upside is tremendous, it's just i've seen fantastic single seasons from eagles QBs that get everybody thinking "oh poo poo we finally found our franchise guy" only for everything to turn to ash. every team has seen that. if he puts another good-to-very good season together, all this talk goes out the window (or should, anyway, i can't speak for the rest of this broken fanbase). i think he's going to be just fine and i expect a lot of the tentativeness to be gone by midseason. my only real concern with the guy is durability, just because of the way he runs. it's what makes him such a force on the field, but it's also brutal on his body.
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May 20, 2023 15:15
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euphronius posted:Justin Tucker is not a better QB than Tom Brady but by the time preseason rolls around i would not be surprised to see this thread making the assertion
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I'm gonna be honest, gents: I don't particularly like the Dallas Cowboys.
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i'll do him one better: i'm willing to stand here and now and guarantee you all that i will not throw one single interception in the 2023-2024 nfl season
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yeah, it loving rules (signed, someone whose team's quarterback is probably going to regress hard this season)
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i'm not gonna deny that dak has way more arm talent than jalen right now but if you're gonna point to deeply embarrassing last plays of postseason games that have no bearing on the quarterback's actual talent, well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FrRj8ybrGQ
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Jul 29, 2023 16:03
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this is the guy i want throwing the ball for my team
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jalen can throw the ball reliably, he just can't throw it as well as dak. my point is 'people screw up sometimes' is just as relevant for jalen accidentally stepping on his lineman's foot and having his throw flop because of it as it is for dak forgetting how linear time works
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Jul 29, 2023 16:31
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Doltos posted:The lineman's foot thing is whatever it was a joker rear end throw that wasn't going to be completed anyway and he had a shoulder injury. In spirit I don't disagree with much of this, but he's gotten better over the middle—both at completing passes and at making attempts (I think he was above league average in both? Not that 'above average' says a whole lot, I guess). It was a very clear knock on him early, but it's an area in which he has improved. Last year was a huge jump, like you said, and I spent a lot of the first half of the season stunned at the windows he was putting the ball into because I had no idea he could throw the ball that well. Is it enough to make him a better passer than Dak? lol no, but it's a sign that he can be taught and is getting better.
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I feel like Jalen's style of running doesn't really lend itself to an injury avoidant career especially because he didn't avoid injury this past season
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I feel like 'they only won the NFC Championship Game because they were playing against a team with no QB' conveniently ignores why they were playing against a team with no QB. Dude didn't trip and fall, he got hit because the defensive line did exactly what it had been doing all year up to that point
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maybe, but we'll never know because the eagles knocked their one QB worth a drat out of the game edit: like, i hear you, and i was worried about the SF game because that team looked like an absolute buzzsaw, but if exceptional talent on one team (the eagles' defensive line) exploits a serious weakness on another team (the 49ers' QB situation), then that's one team beating the other. the eagles racked up historic sack totals over the course of the season, it's not crazy to think they'd get to the QB. the jalen hurts fumble returned for a TD likely turned the entire super bowl around, i'm not in here saying "yeah well the chiefs would've lost if it weren't for that anomalous thing that cost the eagles the game." Toaster Beef fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jul 30, 2023 |
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I like BiggerBoat quite a bit but their confidence re: Eagles v. Cowboys is bonkers to me and I don't understand a mindset that doesn't pencil in at least one loss to Dallas in any given season
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got 'em
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yeah it fuckin owned edit: lost in the hilarity of that postseason was the fact that after taking over for wentz foles looked like dogshit against the raiders and cowboys (the cowboys matchup was the last game of the season and he was barely in it, but even in minimal time he managed to throw an INT), then bumbled his way through the first round against atlanta. but in the middle of that streak of bad-to-mediocre football he went 24/38 for 237 yards and 4 TDs against the giants because gently caress the giants
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yeah 2017 made last year infinitely easier to deal with. had posters in this very thread trying to tell me i was secretly devastated or something, lol fuckin cowboys fans trying to tell other fans how to feel about a super bowl loss when their team hasn't even been within a game of it since patrick mahomes was four months old
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Pederson being a casualty of the Wentz debacle is always going to stick in my craw because that dude is a drat good coach, but IIRC he was also very much against Hurts getting the nod over Wentz so it's a bit of a mixed bag. I'm confident enough in Sirianni to where the loss of Pederson sucks a bit less (going to the Super Bowl will do that, I guess), but that could fall apart quickly if the team looks bad under the new coordinators and they slip into some of the habits they've had over the past two years (like completely forgetting the identity of the team and making things much harder on themselves, a la the Saints game last season). Between the new coordinators and the hilariously brutal middle part of their schedule, the Eagles feel like one of those teams that could win 13 games or barely make it to .500. I have them penciled in at 12 wins, with most or all of the five losses happening from weeks nine through 15 (DAL, Bye, @KC, BUF, SF, @DAL, @SEA).
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Arguments could definitely be made for BUF/SF/@SEA being somewhat safe but if you look at both Dallas games and KC and only see one loss then brother we are on a different wavelength
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I'm not writing off Washington or New York, though I dunno if NY would be considered a sleeper after making the playoffs last year. Atlanta and Chicago are the other two that jump to mind.
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few things really hammer home how insane NFL scale is quite like seeing someone 5'5" on the line of scrimmage and being incapable of discerning them from a child
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