euphronius posted:

It was a significant factor. I think Gannon checking out was probably bigger tho

euphronius posted:

Killing the pass tush for both teams disproportionately effects they eagles in the context of that game

It wasn’t the only issue

euphronius posted:

If you remember going into the game the eagles were favored because (in part) their pass rush which had just (if you remember ) destroyed the 49ers and whoever else they played before that I don’t even recall

blarzgh posted:

"X - X against playoff teams/ teams are the winning record" is a made up stat, It means only one thing: You either are or you are not Tom Brady who is the only quarterback that has significantly more wins against teams have finished with > .500 record that any other quarterback in history basically

Playoff teams are generally only one or two games above 500 sometimes if that, and a good team will win 11 to 14 games a year, dealing many teams that one loss that ultimately keeps them out of the playoffs or from having a winning record.

So what you're doing is contriving a stat that a) assumes that a quarterback is 100% responsible for the outcome of the game, which is dumb ESPN bullshit, and 2) punishes teams who are successful, and to turn several teams a season into teams that don't make the playoffs and or finish below 500

blarzgh posted:

Notice as well that all the farty, bloated Giants fans have sworn a blood oath to abhor statistics, So they can pretend that Eli Was anything more than a below average quarterback carried by luck, variance, and an all-world defense to two titles.

Febreeze posted:

I'm fine with statistics, I'm just extremely tired of tiny stupid ones illustrating that Dak is actually the third best QB on long downs in the second quarter or whatever the gently caress

Just say he's good, because he is

indigi posted:

Dak is good, I'd say very good. in stretches he's played great. that's my quarterback

fartknocker posted:

He’s #17, just behind Chad Hutchinson and ahead of Steve Beuerlein.

BiggerBoat posted:

I hadn't really thought about it but, man, the AFC is just stacked at QB compared to the NFC.

Jalen is the default #1 based on only one year and then you have, what? Dak, Cousins, Stafford?

AFC has Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Rodgers, Lawrence, Herbert...Russel Wilson and Watson if they can get their poo poo together. It's pretty nuts how lopsided it is.

euphronius posted:

I looked at the box scores and Minshew scored 6 points on a 1 yard rush. Anyway the important thing is he lost

Hurts did not score any points against Dallas last year, BUT he won the game.

As an aside Points scored by a QB is a strange way to judge them. For example tom Brady barely scores any points but hes the best QB of all time.

Diqnol posted:

It doesn’t matter how good Dak is, he is a loser to the core while wearing a Cowboys Uniform.

Cartoon Man posted:

What the gently caress are we even talking about, god I hate the offseason. Isn’t it about time for somebody in the NFC East to get arrested by now?

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

I agree with this

BiggerBoat posted:

I don't think there's a GM in the league that would take Dak over Jalen, even if we disregarded their age. One can argue that Hurts has only done it for one year and has a great supporting cast, which is fair, but I feel safe saying there's a pretty solid consensus here.

Toaster Beef posted:

i'm not gonna deny that dak has way more arm talent than jalen right now but if you're gonna point to deeply embarrassing last plays of postseason games that have no bearing on the quarterback's actual talent, well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FrRj8ybrGQ

Doltos posted:

I think you're kind of right only in the sense that GMs really hook their wagons to young, athletic QBs. Like the major difference between Dak and Hurts really is arms versus legs, and right now the legs are winning with their current strategy.

There is no possible way NFL defenses didn't have Hurts figured out last year.



The guy clearly loves the middle of the field and hitting sidelines on short routes. If that doesn't work, people run deep and then he takes off. Everyone knows that. The problem is no one can stop that. Hurts is squirrely, he's fast, and he's capable. He's kind of like a way more athletic Chad Pennington. That's like really valuable. People want that. Now the question is will the NFL start drafting faster LBs who can actually make a tackle on a 6'2 guy running around instead of just diving at his feet.

Toaster Beef posted:

I feel like 'they only won the NFC Championship Game because they were playing against a team with no QB' conveniently ignores why they were playing against a team with no QB. Dude didn't trip and fall, he got hit because the defensive line did exactly what it had been doing all year up to that point

Shinjobi posted:

It would own, lmao

The Dave posted:

I would like to call the 30-40 people waiting outside the Linc this morning to purchase kelly green jerseys absolute losers and dregs of society. Thank you.

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

I would like for the Dallas Cowboys to win the division, and, hell, the Super Bowl too.

Toaster Beef posted:

Asproigerosis posted:

isn't nfl backup entirely predicated around teamwork, gameplanning, theorycrafting stuff and nothing to do with your actual physical ability to play?

blarzgh posted:

I would also like to officially announce that my wife, who loves me despite the fact that I'm a cowboys fan, has acquired us not only tickets to this weekend's preseason game but also to the opener against the New York Jets.

I've never been to a professional football game and even though Jerry world is a monument to excess and the fragility of 1 billionaire's ego, I'm looking forward to watching Dak Prescott kill Aaron Rogers like he did Tom Brady last year.

euphronius posted:

It’s unlikely I’ll watch a Dallas - Green Bay game honestly

euphronius posted:

Lmao at the mortgage calculator