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Phylodox posted:He’s wearing it when he shows up in the “Portals” scene in Endgame, though. I forgot endgame lol
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Sivart13 posted:I did like when his cronies turned on him, though I kinda wish they coulda just shot him and that would've been the end of it. After Quantummania the gravity-loving super suit that is impossibly strong until it isn't makes me tired. I loved that too because you can sorta see that in the flashbacks that its way more of Team effort, like he is the leader of the team but the rest actually do stuff, eventually he just kinda breaks harder and gets the full god complex. whats her face was probably an equel at some point Bad Seafood posted:
I usually hate that trope, espcially in stuff like Wonder woman and other movies, but in this it worked. the high evolution is hosed and probably dying, he has no team or lickspittles that wasnt either killed or ran away and his ships on fire and he is probably dying of internal bleeding and may or may not be paralized, dudes gonna burn to death or be flash fried. he wasnt getting out, also rocket was able to actually live for more then just vengence or spite. unlike this dickhead.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I loved that too because you can sorta see that in the flashbacks that its way more of Team effort, like he is the leader of the team but the rest actually do stuff, eventually he just kinda breaks harder and gets the full god complex. whats her face was probably an equel at some point It's pretty much a version of that bit "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" bit from Batman Begins.
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It was a little strange how Gamora stabbed him and then ripped his face off. He wasn't really her villain to kill, but then Ravager Gamora got back to her "most dangerous woman in the galaxy" roots.
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Gamora noticed that his face wasn't actually real and it was coming off after she stabbed him so I'm sure she was confused.
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Babe Magnet posted:also a large part of this movie is Gunn reminding you that, yes he made Slither and he'll loving make it again if he has to. I know he's got a million things on his plate right now, which may mean he is latched to a sinking ship but I'd really love to see Gunn's take on a bona fide eldritch horror story. Especially after the flesh space station
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Baron von der Loon posted:My first impression after having seen this was relief at having a trilogy of sci-fi films(albeit with some additional stuff on the side with the Avengers and the Christmas Special) that are just really good from start to finish.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Best hallway fight in the entire MCU. didnt they keep on calling her "good boy"? Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
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It's a drat shame all the Gamora stuff happened between 2 and 3. Could've stood pretty much on its own otherwise.
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i dont care what bollocks gunn might tweet out, like starlord's whole thing is that mask and some guns he still has. Its like a spiderman movie where he falls off a building and the director tweets oh yeah he left his webshooters in his school desk you see it in scene 3 lmao
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He also took the time to grab his blasters, why wouldn't he grab the mask
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The boot boosters would've come in handy when he jumped out of a spaceship as well.
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Lol https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1655361147959402496?s=20
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Gunn's been pretty outspoken about disliking how the Russos messed with his characters (as has Reed) so it'll be interesting to see if that influences how he Feiges DC.
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i always assumed they were like spacer masks that bought at space best buy or some poo poo and he has like a bucket full of them somewhere. FlamingLiberal posted:He also took the time to grab his blasters, why wouldn't he grab the mask because he is an emotional idiot. Everyone posted:It's pretty much a version of that bit "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" bit from Batman Begins. yeah like i said, its one of the few "sparing the very evil psychopath in the 3rd act" that worked outside a "the hero never kills" type movie.
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This movie was just not enough fun. Villain was a two dimensional sadist and we got to watch him torture animals for half of the movie. The whole thing had an air of nihilistic brutality that was maybe present in the first two but in a humorous way. Here it's more "life sucks then you die".
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Ah yes, the nihilistic brutality of rescuing thousands of children and animals along with the most misanthropic character realizing he has a family and purpose for living.
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I mean, it's a lot of both. The movie is really bleak and brutal, but also hopeful and optimistic for the main characters. Still, you see a lot of hosed up things.
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live with fruit posted:It was a little strange how Gamora stabbed him and then ripped his face off. He wasn't really her villain to kill, but then Ravager Gamora got back to her "most dangerous woman in the galaxy" roots. One thing I saw in that scene was that, if you look at her eyes as she is stabbing him, she is loving relishing it. I was a little freaked out by how much sadism was coming through.
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1stGear posted:Ah yes, the nihilistic brutality of rescuing thousands of children and animals along with the most misanthropic character realizing he has a family and purpose for living. I certainly liked this movie better than Black Panther 2 and Quantummania but I've never really got along with these cosmic-scale stories. Bad guy can use his magic gas to create and destroy a whole civilization out of nothing. Then later we're supposed to be jazzed that a bunch of kangaroos successfully jump from one spaceship to another. The stakes are all screwy.
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mastajake posted:One thing I saw in that scene was that, if you look at her eyes as she is stabbing him, she is loving relishing it. I was a little freaked out by how much sadism was coming through. Makes sense in that regard because none of the (other) Guardians are sadistic, at least anymore.
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Sivart13 posted:this happens after the antagonist literally destroys a planet because Starlord told him he saw an octopus-man sell meth The movie is threaded through with brutality. Camera lingers on acts of sadism and severe injury without much lightness to bring it up. I don't think this is a moral failing or whatever I just didn't have any fun with it especially compared to the first two. The second movie had dark moments but the overall tone was much lighter compared to this. Like you nearly see a mother and child get crushed by a wave of evil goo in movie 2 but it later shows them getting away. This movie specificaly focuses on a suburban couple just before they are exploded into a fine mist, along with the rest of the planet. Bummer.
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Amethyst posted:The movie is threaded through with brutality. Camera lingers on acts of sadism and severe injury without much lightness to bring it up. Everything to do with Yondu in 2 is pretty dark. Taserface shot all his loyalists out into space to die.
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live with fruit posted:Everything to do with Yondu in 2 is pretty dark. Taserface shot all his loyalists out into space to die. Sure, but that scene felt like the exception rather than the rule.
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Gamora's clearly just having a great time there. She's getting to brutally murder an utterly irredeemable monster that no one will step in to save, and notices a detail that piques her curiosity.Dapper_Swindler posted:I loved that too because you can sorta see that in the flashbacks that its way more of Team effort, like he is the leader of the team but the rest actually do stuff, eventually he just kinda breaks harder and gets the full god complex. whats her face was probably an equel at some point Interestingly seems like the breaking point is when Rocket clawed his face off. Actually I totally got Ahab vibes, which is extremely fitting with the story's focus on cruelty to animals and obsession. I was gonna make comparisons to Tony Stark with how he ended up a cyborg who put his intellect and resources towards making a personal weapon and armour to protect himself- and the apparent similarities to Kang might just be because in a universe where artificial gravity technology is clearly a thing, weaponising it isn't a big stretch, and he's clearly not very creative- the High Evolutionary was wounded and crippled by something he considered nothing more than an animal, a resource to be used for himself, and became maniacal and obsessed with revenge to the point of leading himself and his crew to their deaths. It's clear that funnily enough the High Evolutionary really isn't special aside from being pretty good at galactic-level genetic science and having zero moral scruples. He clearly hasn't learned a thing from his 'failed' experiments besides incremental improvements to the technical process, assuming all failures are at the genetic level rather than social or circumstantial (Sound familiar?) and is shocked by Rocket's intellect but he's clearly not that special in the grand scheme of things- hell, especially given the High Evolutionary has explicitly visited Earth and appreciates its culture, which is the home of at least a few super-geniuses itself. He places himself as a god but ultimately no one besides his own creations under his control treats him as anything more than a rich rear end in a top hat with particularly expensive and horrific hobbies.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Gamora's clearly just having a great time there. She's getting to brutally murder an utterly irredeemable monster that no one will step in to save, and notices a detail that piques her curiosity. It's kind of hilarious to consider that H.E. didn't just visit Earth. He based the culture of his "perfect world" on 1950s-1980s or so Earth suburban life. It's also interesting to note that the "Guardians of the Galaxy" aren't really "guarding the galaxy" against anything here. Nasty and evil as he is, the H.E. isn't really a threat along the lines of Ronan/Thanos or Ego. Even if he "won" he'd create another "perfect world" but get dissatisfied with that because nothing's ever really perfect.
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Everyone posted:It's kind of hilarious to consider that H.E. didn't just visit Earth. He based the culture of his "perfect world" on 1950s-1980s or so Earth suburban life. This time, it's personal.
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stev posted:I know they have fancy high tech medipacks but can you really recover from your head ballooning in the vacuum of space like that? Surely his skull would be hosed. We seen other people like instant die from that. I'm gonna chalk it up to him being part celestial
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movie was good, but at least one child had to be escorted from the theater while they bawled their eyes out. i get it, even for a pg-13 rating it had some sequences that is like just designed to gently caress a child up cosmo was great, cosmo should be in more marvel movies
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Everyone posted:It's kind of hilarious to consider that H.E. didn't just visit Earth. He based the culture of his "perfect world" on 1950s-1980s or so Earth suburban life. Of course, there is a lot of emphasis on how the REAL challenge isn't even defeating the High Evolutionary, which the Guardians do easily once they have him surrounded. It takes all of them working together, and their allies and the people of Knowhere, to handle the real problem- the humanitarian catastrophe that his entire operation is built on. Also while it almost seems gratuitous in the moment, Nebula saying what Rocket went through is even worse than what Thanos did to her... unfortunately makes sense. At least Nebula knew what was being done to her and why, and her augmentations are genuinely top-notch, and intended to make her better for her designated purpose. Rocket wasn't just treated as a science experiment, but in a clumsy and careless way that it's a miracle he survived at all- which most of the animals clearly didn't. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 06:56 on May 8, 2023 |
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:movie was good, but at least one child had to be escorted from the theater while they bawled their eyes out. i get it, even for a pg-13 rating it had some sequences that is like just designed to gently caress a child up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzfkxAC-Bw8
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:movie was good, but at least one child had to be escorted from the theater while they bawled their eyes out. i get it, even for a pg-13 rating it had some sequences that is like just designed to gently caress a child up Who didn't bawl their eyes out?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I usually hate that trope, espcially in stuff like Wonder woman and other movies, but in this it worked. the high evolution is hosed and probably dying, he has no team or lickspittles that wasnt either killed or ran away and his ships on fire and he is probably dying of internal bleeding and may or may not be paralized, dudes gonna burn to death or be flash fried. he wasnt getting out, also rocket was able to actually live for more then just vengence or spite. unlike this dickhead. Everyone posted:It's pretty much a version of that bit "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" bit from Batman Begins.
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There's a fair few moments I feel are thematically fitting but the execution is a bit awkward. I suppose you could get worse, but it's definitely a bit of a theme. It definitely works if you follow the theme that Rocket is Moby-Dick, and The High Evolutionary is his Ahab- ultimately, while the latter destroys himself pursuing revenge for his disfigurement that costs him his ship, his crew, and his life, the 'animal' he pursued ultimately doesn't particularly care and has better things to do. Moby-Dick was based on a whale who actively fought back against whalers to protect his pod, after all. And now I'm picturing the Guardians hanging out with Payakan and pals. Oh, and also thinking on the themes; The idea that the HE just 'doesn't like things as they are' feels like rather tepid and misplaced 'the status quo is fine' messaging, but I don't think that's the intent. If anything I feel the overall theme of the movie is that change, real change, and personal development is hard, it takes time, and requires introspection and learning from your mistakes. Nearly all the characters are clearly considering or encouraging others to re-evaluate themselves, their place in the group and how the dynamic works- in spite of, or perhaps rather because of how they've settled into a more stable, organised and relatively healthy group dynamic. The High Evolutionary on the other hand claims to be all about change, growth and development, but is ultimately in an endless cycle of creating and destroying with no thought to the consequences, learning nothing except for incremental technical improvements, and not examining anything closer than the aesthetic level. The characters are so unimpressed by him and his claims because they have all personally experienced how hard it really is to build a team, a family and a community. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 10:16 on May 8, 2023 |
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I mostly enjoyed it, with a couple issues. Mostly the pacing: It felt like plot points would just happen next with little to no setup, and it often felt jarring to me. Some of that was the editing, some was the writing. That, and it had the superhero movie problem of packing in too much. After the previous setup with Adam Warlock seeming like he was going to be a big deal, he's barely in it and gets clowned on the whole time, to the point where it seemed like they forgot about him and wrote him in later. I also felt like someone in the original lineup should've died to sell the stakes - like if Bautista is done, it easily could've been Drax. Otherwise it's fun and well written, pretty looking, and I had a good time. Most Marvel villains are disposable, but the High Evolutionary was great (and could believably become the big bad through more Multiverse fuckery if Kang's actor doesn't work out), as well as the Fillion cameo, and I hope they find ways to bring them back. I was also surprised that some of the violence is exceptionally brutal: -The guy who gets his thigh pinned to a wall with a knife, then his body rotates around it. -The lady with a desk job getting shot in the leg and screams in agony, and it's played for laughs. -Quill straight up murdering a non-threatening scientist by throwing him from high altitude straight into the ground, drowns him, rips an implant out of his head, then the ship runs over his corpse. -Literally peeling the skin off HE's face. I'm not squeamish and I watch plenty of horror, but I suspect an earlier cut got an R rating that had to be toned down, because that doesn't feel like it started at PG-13.
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That particular actress is actually Gunn's wife, so I suspect it was intended to be something of a meta-joke. The rest of your points about the violence make sense though. I suspect Gunn wanted to go back to his Troma roots a bit and Marvel only had so much leverage to rein him in with. 1stGear fucked around with this message at 13:14 on May 8, 2023 |
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The whole thing with the HE is paralleled with star lord because he just cannot accept that Gamora isn’t the Gamora he knew, and he is frustrated and insults her and tries to push her to be someone she isn’t. And at the end he understands that sometimes the way things are isn’t what you want, but that doesn’t mean it’s bad. Obviously one is the most extreme version of that, but ya know.
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Bonk posted:I was also surprised that some of the violence is exceptionally brutal: Yeah this one actually got me quite a bit. The screaming was incredibly loud and realistic.
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