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RapturesoftheDeep
Jan 6, 2013

Passive Aggreeable posted:

Yiff shirt and Lifter

I am gonna guess I am not the only one here who wants to know more about these guys. In particular why you call dude "yiff shirt."

What are the other people like-- how old, what backgrounds are they from, what mental illnesses do they have, what kind of crimes did they commit, how long have they been there?

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Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDpAfFzcRQ

Zeluth
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAOLJVsk9mA

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ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007


You post youtube vids like a drunk aunt on facebook so whenever you get into these phases of mercilessly making GBS threads up interesting threads i think youre on a bender.

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer

Flowers for QAnon posted:

You should talk to your therapist about conspiracy theories

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3476840/

https://www.hmpgloballearningnetwor...e%20mean,person's%20cortex%2C%E2%80%9D%20researchers%20wrote.

https://joannamoncrieff.com/2013/12/13/antipsychotics-and-brain-shrinkage-an-update/

Maybe you were joking but, if you weren't, it seems a bit rude and ableist to attribute something to someone's mental illness you could have just quickly Googled and confirmed yourself.

Shadow0 fucked around with this message at 12:18 on May 15, 2023

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

RapturesoftheDeep posted:

I am gonna guess I am not the only one here who wants to know more about these guys. In particular why you call dude "yiff shirt."

What are the other people like-- how old, what backgrounds are they from, what mental illnesses do they have, what kind of crimes did they commit, how long have they been there?

He wore a shirt one day that just says 'yiff' on it, I am unsure about his index offense or his current mental illness.

There are now two Maximum Security Facilities in the state now that they opened up one in Kerrville, everyone else has gone through Vernon, Tx, and they all probably know about Chad the murderer who practices his own form of Tai Chi, says things like "Oh blang sha" and tries to dial random numbers (here you have to request a line out through a PNA and an operator will call the phone you want to use). He's been there for over twenty years and he probably will never leave.

I'll get some more statistics soon about the variety of mental illnesses. A lot of people who are incompetent/mentally ill are homeless.

I talked to one dude who has been programming a Final Fantasy Tactics like game, he has hallucinations so his diagnosis is schizophrenia, he stabbed someone 13 times in the leg because that someone was choking him so he alleges self defense.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






What's security like at your various facilities, anyone abuse their positions to gently caress with the patients or is everything on the level? Did the maximum security facility have a more prison-like atmosphere of restricted movement/scheduling?

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

McSpanky posted:

What's security like at your various facilities, anyone abuse their positions to gently caress with the patients or is everything on the level? Did the maximum security facility have a more prison-like atmosphere of restricted movement/scheduling?

No one really fucks with the patients due to extensive clients rights and how its some peoples jobs that we are treated nicely.

Due to covid there are three tag levels at Vernon or the Maximum Security Unit: White, Red, and Blue: If you are white you have to stay on unit all day, If you go to your scheduled classes for a week (coloring sheets and what not) you will move up to a red, go to 75% of your classes (possibly at the Activity Building) from there for a week and you will move up to a Blue tag. (Two more weeks of Blue tag before you can work.) So there is a curved chainlink fence all around the MSU's with the top portion having slots too thin for fingers to get through.

Security would walk through a few times a day, and they would show up if there is an incident but other than that it is up to the PNAs to restrain someone if they get into a fight or start turning poo poo over.

There's no fence where I am at other than a green line that tells us where to stay.

les enfants Terrific!
Dec 12, 2008
Man, the only person I hurt was myself and they took my cellphone from me.

Glad you have connection to the rest of the world, being in that blackout for just a week was rough as all hell.

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Who is paying for your treatment and time spent in the institution? Is this covered by some insurance, or are you going to be liable for costs? Asking oin good faith - curious how this is handled.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

What’s the air conditioning situation? Was reading about how some Texas prisons are nightmares in summer.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
What happens if you step over the green line?

1stforumsacct51523
May 15, 2023

by vyelkin
100% of millennials have been to the psych ward at least 3 times

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

How did you get multiple concussions, op?

permabansdontexist
May 15, 2023

GABA ghoul posted:

How did you get multiple concussions, op?

they take on too much reflective damage for their budget

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Shadow0 posted:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3476840/

https://www.hmpgloballearningnetwor...e%20mean,person's%20cortex%2C%E2%80%9D%20researchers%20wrote.

https://joannamoncrieff.com/2013/12/13/antipsychotics-and-brain-shrinkage-an-update/

Maybe you were joking but, if you weren't, it seems a bit rude and ableist to attribute something to someone's mental illness you could have just quickly Googled and confirmed yourself.

Yes, your google search surely makes you more informed than health specialists that focus on this area of study.

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Mokotow posted:

Who is paying for your treatment and time spent in the institution? Is this covered by some insurance, or are you going to be liable for costs? Asking oin good faith - curious how this is handled.

It costs taxpayers around 600$ a day for treatment costs. We are all evaluated on our ability to pay ourselves.

Hyrax Attack! posted:

What’s the air conditioning situation? Was reading about how some Texas prisons are nightmares in summer.

Just fine, it was pretty hot in jail though.

goatface posted:

What happens if you step over the green line?

I think you just lose your tag level depending on where you are. Some people cross some green lines to pet or feed the cats.

GABA ghoul posted:

How did you get multiple concussions, op?

Bad sparring partners/boxing gym escalation, some Historical European Martial Arts. I've only had one real bad concussion but post-concussive syndrome can be a bitch.

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

ArmZ posted:

Which character in one flew over the cuckoos nest are you the most like?

I asked about this movie and apparently it would have to go through some approval process.

We are watching Silver Linings Playbook tomorrow though.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Passive Aggreeable posted:

I asked about this movie and apparently it would have to go through some approval process.

We are watching Silver Linings Playbook tomorrow though.

please give us a review :)

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
I've spent at the very least least a few months (collectively) in mental hospitals and they're not very fun.

I hope you are doing well OP.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.
Do you know of anyone actually getting worse from being hospitalized? From what I've read this can and does happen and it sounds like being in mental hospital can be a PTSD inducing situation. The idea of having no agency, being at the whims of doctors of dubious levels of competency, and having to just take whatever pills they throw at you sounds completely and utterly terrifying.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
no offense, but since you’re being mostly straightforward here, did your aunt and uncle get pretty hosed up? I don’t think you get years in max security over a slapfight, right?

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
Thanks for sharing your experiences. :)

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



How long have you been there?

Have you banged anyone?

VesuviusSurvivor
Jun 4, 2021
Okay, so here's my question. As a frequent user of the private hospital system here in Arizona... Is there anything to recommend inpatient treatment on a long-term basis versus several short-term stays, which seem to just put a band-aid on me and then release me into the wilds to get basically forgotten about under a crappy system? Because that's how I'm feeling. I know there's a state hospital in Arizona with a civilian population and I'm just curious if something like that would help me more than what currently seems to have been failing me.

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

The only memory I have of my mother’s time at Emerson was playing Payday with some of the patients in the day room. How’s the board game action there?

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

ArmZ posted:

please give us a review :)
I was able to watch the last forty minutes or so, so unfortunately I cannot comment on the part that I was most excited about, the institutionalization. Most of my comments are plot-based, the dance scene made me cringe a bit, there was a lot of rash decision-making complete with mysticism aka betting juju, and there was an additional fight scene that I didn't like.

CPL593H posted:

Do you know of anyone actually getting worse from being hospitalized? From what I've read this can and does happen and it sounds like being in a mental hospital can be a PTSD-inducing situation. The idea of having no agency, being at the whims of doctors of dubious levels of competency, and having to just take whatever pills they throw at you sounds completely and utterly terrifying.

Some people might get worse from being forced to take medication, aka they are at a high dose because they weren't responding to their earlier dose because they weren't taking it.

One lady, in particular, started exhibiting weird facial and body tics/spasms.

Jail and Institutionalization is incredibly anxiety inducing for me, particularly loud noises and yelling gets to me.

Anne Whateley posted:

no offense, but since you’re being mostly straightforward here, did your aunt and uncle get pretty hosed up? I don’t think you get years in max security over a slapfight, right?
I hit my aunt once in the face and I didn't really mean it but it was pretty hard, she fell back and hit the kitchen island, face bones are pretty easy to break so that showed up in the cat scan along with a broken Acromion. I broke my uncle's nose when he fell.

I got sucker punched in jail and got whomped on while I was on the stairs and I had to go to the hospital for cuts and swelling, I had a broken nose and broken bones around my eye along with an ugly cut.

sigher posted:

How long have you been there?

Have you banged anyone?

3 Months in the Maximum Security Facility and a month and a half in the less restrictive hospital.


No, there's really nowhere to do it without getting caught especially at the Maximum security facility, I suppose you can hide in the bushes over here.

Szyznyk posted:

The only memory I have of my mother’s time at Emerson was playing Payday with some of the patients in the day room. How’s the board game action there?

Every Tuesday is table-top Tuesday, I'll head down there one day to see what they have to offer. One of the rehab staff comes by to play MTG with one of the patients in my unit.

VesuviusSurvivor posted:

Okay, so here's my question. As a frequent user of the private hospital system here in Arizona... Is there anything to recommend inpatient treatment on a long-term basis versus several short-term stays, which seem to just put a band-aid on me and then release me into the wilds to get basically forgotten about under a crappy system? Because that's how I'm feeling. I know there's a state hospital in Arizona with a civilian population and I'm just curious if something like that would help me more than what currently seems to have been failing me.

So from what I understand, in Texas, at least your civil commitment is considerably shorter than 6-12 month intervals of being chapter 46c NGRI. Your treatment team is the one who advocates for your discharge and they are definitely on the side of getting people out rather than keeping them. Your judge would decide if you stay or are released so I am thinking that they thought you were ready. I am sure if you voiced this they would make sure you had the resources for follow-through in your treatment. I don't know that much about civil commitment so I apologize.

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Anne Whateley posted:

no offense, but since you’re being mostly straightforward here, did your aunt and uncle get pretty hosed up? I don’t think you get years in max security over a slapfight, right?

I actually think I was overcharged as my charge includes the element 'causes serious bodily injury' which basically means they were at risk of death. The broken nose is actually viewed as a serious injury depending on its severity, I am also potentially charged this way if I was considered to have exhibited a deadly weapon which can be anything basically.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Passive Aggreeable posted:

Schizo is a brain disease that lasts for life and here I am at full remission of whatever was causing my psychosis and with insight into my once fervently held delusions.

this is actually an extremely common experience for schizo patients. it's very easy to fall into a cycle of having psychosis -> getting treatment -> feeling good enough that you decide you're not crazy -> stopping treatment -> having psychosis.

not saying this is you necessarily, I hope it was just a one and done, but schizophrenia is not something you can actually rule out because you feel normal after treatment.

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

the holy poopacy posted:

this is actually an extremely common experience for schizo patients. it's very easy to fall into a cycle of having psychosis -> getting treatment -> feeling good enough that you decide you're not crazy -> stopping treatment -> having psychosis.

not saying this is you necessarily, I hope it was just a one and done, but schizophrenia is not something you can actually rule out because you feel normal after treatment.

yes its a common thing to say around here that people feel fine when they are stabilized on meds then they get off it and come back

My psychosis was mostly having a faulty belief system which was delusional, I liken my remission to something like changing religion, it's hard to fathom going back to believing in pseudoscience.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Passive Aggreeable posted:

My psychosis was mostly having a faulty belief system which was delusional, I liken my remission to something like changing religion, it's hard to fathom going back to believing in pseudoscience.
Isn't that literally exactly what you it would feel like if you're schizophrenic and the delusional beliefs you had stopped making sense to you because you're receiving treatment, though?

I don't really understand why you're so insistent that you can't possibly have schizophrenia; it seems it's the most plausible explanation for what happened barring very strong evidence to the contrary.

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

mystes posted:

Isn't that literally exactly what you it would feel like if you're schizophrenic and the delusional beliefs you had stopped making sense to you because you're receiving treatment, though?

I don't really understand why you're so insistent that you can't possibly have schizophrenia; it seems it's the most plausible explanation for what happened barring very strong evidence to the contrary.

I got better spontaneously off medication while I was in jail, there were hiccups where I deduced that I was wrong but for the most part, I was delusion free.

Low effort chatgpt: "No, delusions and psychosis are not necessarily exclusive to schizophrenia. While they are commonly associated with schizophrenia, they can also occur in other mental health conditions such as bipolar disorder, major depressive disorder with psychotic features, substance-induced psychotic disorder, and certain neurological disorders. Delusions and psychosis are symptoms that can manifest in various psychiatric and medical conditions, not solely in schizophrenia."

If I was experiencing hallucinations and whatnot/symptoms that are more or less trademark schizophrenia then insight would point me into believing it as so. OCD (obsessing over my beliefs), stress, and traumatic brain injury can all lead to psychosis.

I wrote a three-page letter to my previous psychiatrist and she told me the sole criteria for maintaining my diagnosis was that I had a run-in with the police greater than six months apart (not from symptoms or anything like that). She was open to the possibility of lowering/getting off medication in the future, outside of her care tho.

Passive Aggreeable fucked around with this message at 02:10 on May 17, 2023

shirunei
Sep 7, 2018

I tried to run away. To take the easy way out. I'll live through the suffering. When I die, I want to feel like I did my best.

Passive Aggreeable posted:

I actually think I was overcharged as my charge includes the element 'causes serious bodily injury' which basically means they were at risk of death. The broken nose is actually viewed as a serious injury depending on its severity, I am also potentially charged this way if I was considered to have exhibited a deadly weapon which can be anything basically.

agg assault seems pretty justified

quote:

I hit my aunt once in the face and I didn't really mean it but it was pretty hard, she fell back and hit the kitchen island, face bones are pretty easy to break so that showed up in the cat scan along with a broken Acromion. I broke my uncle's nose when he fell.

so when people fall in an uncontrolled manner and hit their heads this can cause some pretty serious injury including death.

im not sure what the point of this thread is since it just seems to be a way for the OP to talk themselves into stopping treatment or convincing themselves actually no it's fine i didn't do nearly as bad a thing as everyone says.

seems pretty unhealthy and kinda hosed up to let go on but have fun i guess. :gas:

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

shirunei posted:

agg assault seems pretty justified

so when people fall in an uncontrolled manner and hit their heads this can cause some pretty serious injury including death.

im not sure what the point of this thread is since it just seems to be a way for the OP to talk themselves into stopping treatment or convincing themselves actually no it's fine i didn't do nearly as bad a thing as everyone says.

seems pretty unhealthy and kinda hosed up to let go on but have fun i guess. :gas:

well I personally thought people would ask about other people so YMMV because of what I initially thought the looney bin would be about

she was conscious when she stumbled backwards, he was briefly unconscious

thanks for chiming in with the obvious captain sherlock I am sure you are an expert in texas code, you can literally stab someone and have it not be a 'serious bodily injury'

I had nothing to do but read hundreds of appellate court rulings in jail, and I was offered probation. Two counts with the same elements is very meh.

Passive Aggreeable fucked around with this message at 02:51 on May 17, 2023

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

shirunei posted:

im not sure what the point of this thread is since it just seems to be a way for the OP to talk themselves into stopping treatment or convincing themselves actually no it's fine i didn't do nearly as bad a thing as everyone says.

seems pretty unhealthy and kinda hosed up to let go on but have fun i guess. :gas:

so treatment despite my opinion is compulsory and the rest of your post is literally gbs threadshit template, I am not asking the questions anyway so :iiam:

I literally won't get out unless the judge decides that I am being treated and I can integrate into society, so you think I am trying - I don't know what you're thinking. My lawyer knew exactly how bad what I did was, he told me what other cases it was between.

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004

Sorry If it was already covered... But is the food better than the slop you get at a US school 'hot lunch's program? Or is it just Sysco poo poo shipped in and sold for dollars on the cent?

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Wendigee posted:

Sorry If it was already covered... But is the food better than the slop you get at a US school 'hot lunch's program? Or is it just Sysco poo poo shipped in and sold for dollars on the cent?

I just asked someone who worked in the kitchen and he said he's seen Sysco trucks but he personally doesn't know who does the food.

I am unaware of the hut lunch program. The food is pretty decent, we had a bean burrito for lunch and 2oz of turkey with stuffing and cranberry sauce for dinner.

covidstomper58
Nov 8, 2020

I knew a person who used to like to be super nice to the staff and the other patients, and be like, "You want a juice? Let me get you a juice." Then tell their counselors that they'd like to work in a place like this and helping people was really great, so they'd get let out sooner. Is this sort of behavior obvious to other tenants?

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

covidstomper58 posted:

I knew a person who used to like to be super nice to the staff and the other patients, and be like, "You want a juice? Let me get you a juice." Then tell their counselors that they'd like to work in a place like this and helping people was really great, so they'd get let out sooner. Is this sort of behavior obvious to other tenants?

I haven't encountered anyone that acted like that to hopefully get their time reduced. The maximum security facility is mainly populated by people who are incompetent and it is like jail in culture, most people won't even answer the patient phones, letting them ring and ring. As far as juice goes, either the PNAs have to get it for you or the LVNs (Licensed Vocational Nurse) have to.

The desire to work here after getting out is fairly common, a lot of peer support or rehab staff came from problems themselves.

So were you institutionalized yourself, how do you know this person?

I'd think it would be fairly obvious behavior, but I don't think it would get you out sooner other than the fact that said person is interacting with other people positively. I've read that people planted in mental facilities for studies, who took notes on their stay were quickly thought to be reporters so people are maybe keen to that sort of thing

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Apr 26, 2004

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Do the showers have knobs or are they controlled by someone else?

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