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Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Kirk Vikernes posted:

Do the showers have knobs or are they controlled by someone else?

Have you met anyone with pica?

Showers have knobs, and everything that you can tie a rope to is pretty much absent.

No, everyone here came from jail and I am thinking that would be seen more on a civil commitment kind of thing. Some ice chewers are here though. I'll ask what sort of interesting patients we have in a relevant class tomorrow.

edit: apparently that is pica so yes

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Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

shirunei posted:



im not sure what the point of this thread is since it just seems to be a way for the OP to talk themselves into stopping treatment or convincing themselves actually no it's fine i didn't do nearly as bad a thing as everyone says.

seems pretty unhealthy and kinda hosed up to let go on but have fun i guess. :gas:

This is where I’m at

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

you should show and tell your therapist this thread op

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Flowers for QAnon posted:

This is where I’m at

Oh okay, well my treatment team consists of a panel of experts and its their job to ensure that I am treated, So even if I wanted to stop treatment, I can't. I don't even understand how anyone could think this thread is a way for me to do that. I was thinking people would ask about the crazies and the fights. You're both lowkey calling me an idiot like I need some sort of echo chamber to 'convince myself' of anything.

And who is saying that? "as bad a thing as everyone says. "

MrQwerty posted:

you should show and tell your therapist this thread op

I will probably have a therapist in the future but I will end up giving them my actual problems to deal with. There isn't really anything here that they don't know about already/can look up in my file.

Bloodfart McCoy
Jul 20, 2007

That's a high quality avatar right there.

Passive Aggreeable posted:

I was thinking people would ask about the crazies and the fights.


Who is the most chronic masturbator?

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




Bloodfart McCoy posted:

Who is the most chronic masturbator?

i think we perma’d that guy

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH
The goon of gooners

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Bloodfart McCoy posted:

Who is the most chronic masturbator?

This is apparently common in the spruce unit (all men) at the maximum security facility, if people catch you they might beat your rear end on the spot though.

Bloodfart McCoy
Jul 20, 2007

That's a high quality avatar right there.
drat… getting beat up while you beat your meat… it’s like the cycle of violence.

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."
Okay let me give everyone a decent example of someone who has schizophrenia (I haven't seen anyone with catatonia):

King likes to hide his medication so security has to be called every time to find them. He might dig up some earth outside and place a piece of trash there and cover it back up, cameras would catch this and security has to come over.

King complains that there is a demon inside his hand and he might palm strike the air at random times. King is otherwise polite but doesn't seek out social engagements, he seldom showers except under doctors' orders.

King collects napkins and often gets up out of his seat to place them on places on the floor, he might also adjust the seats around him, sometimes quite aggressively.

King doesn't go to classes because he thinks they are voluntary and says that he is entitled to a higher badge level than what he has.

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

Kirk Vikernes posted:

Do the showers have knobs or are they controlled by someone else?

Have you met anyone with pica?

pica my balls, op

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Chief McHeath posted:

pica my balls, op

"I am a descendant of Goku." - some guy over here

Do you like Wendy's?

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Have you considered the possibility that the reason people get better in the facility but relapse on the outside is powerful Department of Corrections telepaths onsite?

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Related - is joking about your own delusions a faux pas on the same level as joking about other people's delusions?

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

So did you ever get the telepathy to work or what

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Have you considered the possibility that the reason people get better in the facility but relapse on the outside is powerful Department of Corrections telepaths onsite?

No, as far as I knew, the faculty in jail they would do things like route spiders inside your cell and they would spend a significant amount of time making cells full of funny interactions.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Related - is joking about your own delusions a faux pas on the same level as joking about other people's delusions?

I don't know or really care, mildly interesting because I already thought his heritage had something to do with historical significance. Like he invented a city or something with Texas Rangers.

Toxic Mental posted:

So did you ever get the telepathy to work or what

I actually thought I was popular enough to be broadcasted all the time so I stressed myself out continuously maintaining a publically correct mind.

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

so the woke mind virus strikes again

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Toxic Mental posted:

So did you ever get the telepathy to work or what
SO considering how far I went down the rabbit hole of how it works

since we assume the status quo creates a rarity of events that it does, basically you are asking if other smarty pants can get together to completely intercept and script someone's mind beforehand and create an experience similar to what we understand as a telepathic encounter. aka a trip on rails where someone believes they received some sort of telepathic experience? ie we have to imagine the criteria where outside intelligence would intercept someones worldly experience and put someones mind on a rail for a temporary amount of time. otherwise we are so bound by rules and other peoples wishes where we never receive telepathic messages, also the hubris of assuming it would work for you.

sometimes I think about all the stress I placed myself through subconsciously actually believing this poo poo is through not to mention what must of broken initially for these thoughts to even exist.

"what is the woke mind virus"

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


What's your favorite rock or mineral?

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

What's your favorite rock or mineral?

crack

speaking for me obviously

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

What's your favorite rock or mineral?

I heard in jail that some crystals are attuned to help you gain powers. I forget which math problem he claimed he solved.

is Death Grips a mineral, or Diamonds by Young Thug, apparently he got locked up

Bloodfart McCoy
Jul 20, 2007

That's a high quality avatar right there.

Passive Aggreeable posted:

I heard in jail that some crystals are attuned to help you gain powers. I forget which math problem he claimed he solved.

The key is tuning them with a bud. They glow!

covidstomper58
Nov 8, 2020

Passive Aggreeable posted:

I haven't encountered anyone that acted like that to hopefully get their time reduced. The maximum security facility is mainly populated by people who are incompetent and it is like jail in culture, most people won't even answer the patient phones, letting them ring and ring. As far as juice goes, either the PNAs have to get it for you or the LVNs (Licensed Vocational Nurse) have to.

The desire to work here after getting out is fairly common, a lot of peer support or rehab staff came from problems themselves.

So were you institutionalized yourself, how do you know this person?

I'd think it would be fairly obvious behavior, but I don't think it would get you out sooner other than the fact that said person is interacting with other people positively. I've read that people planted in mental facilities for studies, who took notes on their stay were quickly thought to be reporters so people are maybe keen to that sort of thing

No I was never institutionalized. He was a close friend from childhood, or was.

He had this habit of doing some things, which were not in keeping with sane behavior. And the first couple times the cops brought him to the hospital and then they sent him for a 48 hour or more psych hold which had the potential to be much longer.

So afterward he bragged the first couple times he was just super helpful and they let him out without any fuss. Later times that didn't work so well so he changed his tactics.

Apparently in Colorado if this happens you have to be cleared by a judge, so that's a whole other can of worms as I understand it.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
Is porn blocked?

covidstomper58
Nov 8, 2020

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Is porn blocked?

Same question, but is anything blocked? I assume you're just using your mobile connection not the facility wifi?

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Is porn blocked?

no, nothing is blocked, I don't think you're generally allowed to view porn. I don't think anyone has tried at the library. We aren't allowed to use the facility wifi so we use hotspots from like T-Mobile. I sit right in front of a plexiglass bulletin board and you can sort of see what I am doing on my computer at all times through the reflection.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Passive Aggreeable posted:

no, nothing is blocked, I don't think you're generally allowed to view porn. I don't think anyone has tried at the library. We aren't allowed to use the facility wifi so we use hotspots from like T-Mobile. I sit right in front of a plexiglass bulletin board and you can sort of see what I am doing on my computer at all times through the reflection.

would they like to see the goat man?

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."
:10bux:

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Passive Aggreeable posted:

Okay let me give everyone a decent example of someone who has schizophrenia (I haven't seen anyone with catatonia):

King likes to hide his medication so security has to be called every time to find them. He might dig up some earth outside and place a piece of trash there and cover it back up, cameras would catch this and security has to come over.

King complains that there is a demon inside his hand and he might palm strike the air at random times. King is otherwise polite but doesn't seek out social engagements, he seldom showers except under doctors' orders.

King collects napkins and often gets up out of his seat to place them on places on the floor, he might also adjust the seats around him, sometimes quite aggressively.

King doesn't go to classes because he thinks they are voluntary and says that he is entitled to a higher badge level than what he has.

King is a kitty cat

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer
Thanks for sharing your experience dude. Hope you get better, and pleased do not stop taking your meds. Rooting for a good goon turn-around.

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."
Deaths are interestingly not an uncommon occurrence, from what I have heard two people have died in the Vernon Maximum Security campus recently, one patient's heart stopped from a prn while he was in a restraint chair. The other died from taking fentanyl-laced drugs that another patient sketched out on. In Wichita Falls someone died when one patient stomped another patient's head in.

One patient asked me if I was circumcised and if I, you know, like listen to my foreskin with tinfoil. He has a collection of car pictures and will - we all suspect that he fakes it - stare upwards into his own skull and act bewildered before for an hour or two he tries to elope, smear poo poo around, or hits someone.

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
Well, do you like to listen to your foreskin?

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

Well, do you like to listen to your foreskin?

:qq:

Domus
May 7, 2007

Kidney Buddies
How do people get (illegal) drugs into the facility? I feel like they would search you very thoroughly when you first come in, to make sure you aren’t hiding anything that you can hurt yourself with. Are they passed on by visitors?

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Domus posted:

How do people get (illegal) drugs into the facility? I feel like they would search you very thoroughly when you first come in, to make sure you aren’t hiding anything that you can hurt yourself with. Are they passed on by visitors?

One of the pna's @ Vernon (the Maximum security facility) thinks there are drone drops. But other than that we know that the pna's tend to bring drugs in. I think all of the packages sent by family are X rayed. I wouldn't be surprised if they miss drugs brought in by packages sometimes. Since everyone comes in from jail, we aren't searched but our belongings are. Vernon didn't allow shoelaces for example but they do allow draw strings and shoelaces here.

blight rhino
Feb 11, 2014

EXQUISITE LURKER RHINO


Nap Ghost

shirunei posted:

im not sure what the point of this thread is since it just seems to be a way for the OP to talk themselves into stopping treatment or convincing themselves actually no it's fine i didn't do nearly as bad a thing as everyone says.

seems pretty unhealthy and kinda hosed up to let go on but have fun i guess. :gas:

Flowers for QAnon posted:

This is where I’m at

thank you both for your non-contributions.

I don't think OP is trying to convince themselves they're fine. Vote your little "1" and move on.


OP, I'd like some clarity. Do you feel what you did was okay, because of your brain malfunctions? Or do you realize what you did was wrong, but brought on because of the brain malfunctions?

blight rhino fucked around with this message at 02:55 on May 20, 2023

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

blight rhino posted:

OP, I'd like some clarity. Do you feel what you did was okay, because of your brain malfunctions? Or do you realize what you did was wrong, but brought on because of the brain malfunctions?

What I did was absolutely not okay, it is still a touchy subject to me because it is hard to take on the stigma of psychosis. I'd say the latter. But I am not really beating myself up about it. There's really little I can do to say like make changes to ensure it doesn't happen again. (Other than doing what I am doing now.)

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."
So what happens after you get into a fight because someone keeps on insulting your mama and saying that you have a little dick?

Typically there are a few PNAs in the immediate vicinity that will first grab you and will probably wrestle you into the ground, if you are at all belligerent, expect to be put into a restraint chair under the nurse's orders for the next four hours (maximum restraint for adults, juveniles are two hours). You will then be given a PRN injection that is like an extra dose of what you are already taking; some people become incredibly drowsy. You can then expect to fail your next DRB (dangerousness review board) or will be brought to one and will either stay at an MSU or will be moved to one.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

blight rhino posted:

thank you both for your non-contributions.

I don't think OP is trying to convince themselves they're fine. Vote your little "1" and move on.



Passive Aggreeable posted:


I hit my aunt once in the face and I didn't really mean it but it was pretty hard, she fell back and hit the kitchen island, face bones are pretty easy to break so that showed up in the cat scan along with a broken Acromion. I broke my uncle's nose when he fell.

I got sucker punched in jail and got whomped on while I was on the stairs and I had to go to the hospital for cuts and swelling, I had a broken nose and broken bones around my eye along with an ugly cut.



Passive Aggreeable posted:

I actually think I was overcharged as my charge includes the element 'causes serious bodily injury' which basically means they were at risk of death. The broken nose is actually viewed as a serious injury depending on its severity, I am also potentially charged this way if I was considered to have exhibited a deadly weapon which can be anything basically.


This is OP minimizing the harm he he’s done (and a bonus of saying how he was actually beaten up worse before)

Passive Aggreeable posted:


I don't believe that I have the diagnosis that I do have …. I never had any positive symptoms or negative symptoms of schizoprenia and its possible that I was psychotic from stress, ocd, and/or concussions.

My last visit with a psychiatrist: she basically told me that a run in with the law is abnormal and since its greater than 6 months apart it is probably schizophrenia and not something like schizophreniform,


Passive Aggreeable posted:


Schizophrenia is more like hallucinations and negative symptoms such as flat effect, to diagnose me with that would be heavily borrowing from the idea that it impedes on your life.

Schizo is a brain disease that lasts for life and here I am at full remission of whatever was causing my psychosis and with insight into my once fervently held delusions. Delusions by themselves can cause psychosis as well.

Passive Aggreeable posted:

for the time being and considering how things have been going -- I consider relapse impossible. I also personally believe that medication doesn't really solve our delusions and there is a great need for some sort of insight therapy but delusions can be so entrenched that it can be nearly impossible for insight to form.


This is OP denying their diagnosis

Passive Aggreeable posted:

I'd like to second the sentiment that doctors are basically sold drugs based on their effectiveness in studies at relieving symptoms.

This is OP saying the Doctors have an alternative agenda and are prescribing unsafe medication simply for symptom control



It’s actually quite concerning and I agree he should show this thread to his doctors/therapists

* Note this is how I’m interpreting the posts. I make no claim to having objective knowledge of the situation

Flowers for QAnon fucked around with this message at 23:11 on May 22, 2023

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Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

Flowers for QAnon posted:

This is OP minimizing the harm he he’s done (and a bonus of saying how he was actually beaten up worse before)

This is OP denying their diagnosis

This is OP saying the Doctors have an alternative agenda and are prescribing unsafe medication simply for symptom control

It’s actually quite concerning and I agree he should show this thread to his doctors/therapists

Thanks for your opinion, so I should be like this doctor talked to me for 20 minutes about something else (anxiety) and totally didn't bro up with another doctor and prescribe me the medication I didn't need, what signs are you following other then tried and true safe methods to basically like offer nothing to say while being passive aggressive. And, How are medicines evaluated, what criteria?

If you don't understand the concept of 'serious bodily harm' let me google that for you:

quote:

Examples include, but are not limited to:

A knife wound that interferes with the functioning of an organ, such as the stomach or lungs
Scarring that causes disfigurement and requires extensive medical treatment
An injury that results in neurological damage and loss of limb use
A broken facial bone that requires surgery to prevent disfigurement
An eye injury that results in full or partial blindness

Examples that would probably not be considered serious bodily injury include:

A broken bone that can heal without long-term adverse effects
A knife wound that did not cause serious damage
Minor scarring that does not result in disfigurement

basically I think you're willfully dense and you're overlooking the context of what I wrote.

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