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It's not anything new, but in recent years it seems like even the pretense of accepting (nonwhite) asylum seekers/refugees has been dropped in the west. Recently the US has essentially made it impossible to seek asylum in the country. https://twitter.com/SecMayorkas/status/1656871849244884992
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May 19, 2023 18:10
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Thought this was gonna be a shitpost thread but it's real. Biden has unironically been as awful if not worse than trump on this but since the liberals believe he's this paragon of virtue - there is drat near no opposition to it besides the already dwindled left in america. And of course, the right continues to operate on vibes and screams that he's just letting in everyone and giving them all the welfare that white people can't get anymore. It's loving awful and people's reaction to Ukrainian refugees compared to Syrian or Yemeni refugees proves that it's only going to get more popular to close the door to non whites in the west.
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May 19, 2023 18:23
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under joey b's immigration policies we had some family friends who have had the mom of their kid of on constant dialysis deported by ice multiple times. the dad is a citizen and veteran but he can't get the mom her green card due to a previous history of getting arrested by racist cops for nothing. the dad recently passed away and now the mom and her kid are basically hosed. she just got deported again and will probably knowingly walk into a concentration camp just to try to get back to her kid. basically gently caress joe biden and everyone who has ever supported him for any reason
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May 19, 2023 18:29
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for every asylum seeker fleeing to the US a random American should be thrown into the ocean and their home handed over
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May 19, 2023 18:33
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every person who works for the department of homeland security in any capacity should be killed
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May 19, 2023 18:34
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https://twitter.com/SecMayorkas/status/1656871852218646528 just slipping in "thousands of troops and contractors" because in USA 2023 the military's official and privatized wings are blurring ever more The future is Blackwater grunts murdering desperate people at national borders
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May 19, 2023 18:37
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speng31b posted:joe biden is bad and americans are demons Yeah just seems like a worsening of already horrific possibilities. I don’t think it’s limited to the US though. The UK is trying to send asylum seekers to Rwanda. https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-61782866.amp Also it came out recently that Croatian border guards had a special group for documenting the things they were doing to migrants. https://www.lighthousereports.com/investigation/inside-croatias-secret-whatsapp-group/
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May 19, 2023 18:38
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my bony fealty posted:https://twitter.com/SecMayorkas/status/1656871852218646528 Something unmentioned in all this is that they recently classified anyone who dealt with the cartels as a criminal. So if you had to pay a mule or were forced to pay you’re now no longer eligible for asylum.
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May 19, 2023 18:42
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I have a feeling in the next few years we're going to see pieces of the UN declaration of human rights dealing with refugees go away.
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May 19, 2023 18:48
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I have a feeling in the next few years we're going to see pieces of the UN declaration of human rights dealing with refugees go away. I don't know if it will be that formal. The West will still want to be able to use "refugee crisis" as an excuse to meddle in other countries' business, they'll just come up with more elaborate bullshit to explain away their own refugee problems.
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May 19, 2023 18:52
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Also not exclusive to the west, I somehow have memory holed the CAA in India, and the rohingyas fleeing from persecution. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/25/its-a-nightmare-every-day-crackdown-on-rohingyas-in-india
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May 19, 2023 18:57
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redneck nazgul posted:I don't know if it will be that formal. The West will still want to be able to use "refugee crisis" as an excuse to meddle in other countries' business, they'll just come up with more elaborate bullshit to explain away their own refugee problems. I think they'll just vote them away, or you'll just slowly see them vanish without them putting out a notice. It's not that many people care or notice anyways, lol.
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May 19, 2023 19:05
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it's very funny because the usa, europe, and even china are all facing serious demographic crises with respect to a rapidly aging population that requires a ton of young workers to support programs like old age pensions. in the us iirc it's going to be something like 1 worker for every 3 elderly people. a much more open immigration policy alone isn't enough but it's going to be a lot worse without it. and this has been known for at least 30 years. it's been easier to address and less costly than climate change but they kicked the can down the road so much you end up with poo poo like macron pushing through incredibly unpopular legislation so that there will be enough working people down the road.
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May 19, 2023 19:13
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its all so exceedingly grim, the massive and unnecessary suffering we put people through for the crime of wanting a better life
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May 19, 2023 20:10
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lobster shirt posted:its all so exceedingly grim, the massive and unnecessary suffering we put people through for the crime of wanting a better life yeah, a lot of american politicians should probably stand trial for crimes against humanity and be punished accordingly
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May 19, 2023 20:12
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May 19, 2023 20:22
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are we still running literal child concentration camps or did that one picture of aoc crying fix all that
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May 19, 2023 20:23
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speng31b posted:yeah, a lot of american politicians should probably stand trial for crimes against humanity and be punished accordingly yeah. causing the destruction of people's homes and families therby forcing people to seek out a new home and then setting up a trap for them at the border to continue their immiseration is incredibly evil
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May 19, 2023 20:24
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:are we still running literal child concentration camps yes, and an 8 year old girl recently died in custody
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May 19, 2023 20:45
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my bony fealty posted:The future is Blackwater grunts murdering desperate people at national borders
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May 19, 2023 20:46
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America may just be moving beyond a 50 year stagnation and finally hitting a full-on decline. The supreme court is packed and its not even an issue on the floor.
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May 19, 2023 20:57
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It's insanely hosed how these people's labor and baseline level of humanity are exploited by capital for pennies on the dollar. Obviously this isn't exclusive to this country, but still. Infuriates me to no end when I hear some liberal talk about "well someone needs to pick the food and do the dirty work" as a pro-migrant argument really queer Christmas posted:It's loving awful and people's reaction to Ukrainian refugees compared to Syrian or Yemeni refugees proves that it's only going to get more popular to close the door to non whites in the west. Yeah I dont see this going anywhere pleasant in the future.
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May 19, 2023 21:08
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The American immigration system is bad enough even for legal immigrants. The USCIS bureaucracy is slow, arbitrary and punishing. I went through the green card process myself and at one point received a "your work authorization is immediately revoked, you need to get out within 2 weeks" deportation notice for a mistake that the USCIS processing office made. What's worse is when you look into it this type of situation is not a rare occurrence at all! Obviously the situation is much much worse for asylum seekers and "illegal" immigrants. For example right now the US is openly warning of expanding the use of "expedited removal" (this is related to the Mayorkas tweet in the first post): quote:Expedited removal' explained: US will fast track deportations after Title 42 ends
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May 19, 2023 21:40
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As someone in Australia I've gotten serious deja vu watching America demonise immigrants. The switch from Trump era "here's why immigrant concentration camps are good" to Biden era just pretending they don't exist mirrors what happened in Australia after the Howard government lost the 2007 election. Not that America started treating immigrants like poo poo recently. But the PR used to justify it seems to be about a decade behind what Australia has done.
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May 19, 2023 21:49
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:As someone in Australia I've gotten serious deja vu watching America demonise immigrants. The switch from Trump era "here's why immigrant concentration camps are good" to Biden era just pretending they don't exist mirrors what happened in Australia after the Howard government lost the 2007 election. Not that America started treating immigrants like poo poo recently. But the PR used to justify it seems to be about a decade behind what Australia has done. but then you guys developed a culture of political responsibility and basic human empathy and started treating people like people, right
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May 19, 2023 21:54
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they could just like do an immigration bill maybe but idk I'm not political scientist
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May 19, 2023 22:00
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lol they used Stephen Miller to take the heat for introducing the new policies and then did nothing to reverse them
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State Dept is evil and hosed up. They essentially have blanket immunity to reject any visa requests. Are you an american person or business who needs foreigners to come here, well gently caress you! Want to be with your partner, gently caress you! They did lose a recent case in 3rd district appeals court where they rejected an American's husband because his tattoos looked like gang tattoos and they lied about it. That took like 5 or so years to get through the courts. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-must-face-lawsuit-over-denying-visa-alleged-gang-member-court-2022-10-05/. Otherwise no one else wants to risk their visa work for a court trial. It's a rigged system. Biden also looked the other way as USCIS processing times got twice as bad as Trump. 90 day fiancee is horseshit. It takes about 2 years to get a fiancee here even though the admin just started reacting 6 months ago. guidoanselmi has issued a correction as of 22:12 on May 19, 2023 |
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guidoanselmi posted:State Dept is evil and hosed up. They essentially have blanket immunity to reject any visa requests. Are you an american person or business who needs foreigners to come here, well gently caress you! Want to be with your partner, gently caress you! They did lose a recent case in 3rd district appeals court where they rejected an American's husband because his tattoos looked like gang tattoos and they lied about it. That took like 5 or so years to get through the courts. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-must-face-lawsuit-over-denying-visa-alleged-gang-member-court-2022-10-05/. Otherwise no one else wants to risk their visa work for a court trial. It's a rigged system. You just reminded me that the government can come after you too if you served in the army in a nation we consider hostile, even if it was under mandatory conscription. https://theintercept.com/2022/04/06/iran-terrorist-watchlist-travel-irgc/
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There is so much abuse and exploitation that happens under the visa system too. Completely ignoring all the Americans who go overseas to find a child bride. https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/teachers-face-deportation-years-after-garland-isd-visa-scam/248078/ https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/readers-respond/bs-ed-visas-teachers-20110615-story.html
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:but then you guys developed a culture of political responsibility and basic human empathy and started treating people like people, right well back when Johnny Depp and Amber Heard were still together the government threatened to kill their dogs and forced them to film an ISIS style hostage video to get them to not do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BDtdkyxFk that kind of set the tone for where the country is today
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May 19, 2023 22:20
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How did the Soviet Union handle immigration? I have heard tons about people moving from the various Soviets but never from other countries.
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May 19, 2023 22:25
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Go home, whitey!
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guidoanselmi posted:Biden also looked the other way as USCIS processing times got twice as bad as Trump. 90 day fiancee is horseshit. It takes about 2 years to get a fiancee here even though the admin just started reacting 6 months ago. USCIS processing times are a joke. Employment authorization documents (EADs) have to be renewed annually and you can't apply for a new one until 180 days before the expiration date. Nominally the processing time is 60-90 days, in practice the average wait time was over 8 months. You could file as early as possible and still not get the renewal before your authorization expired. Guess you just can't work! I guess it got so ridiculous that they implemented the 180 day automatic extension, which was then recently updated to 540 days: quote:USCIS Issues New Rule On Employment Authorization
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im a no borders and 1-step path to citizenship guy. sorry border freaks but there's literally no reason to keep people out of the united states who have been forced out of their home countries by the united states
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i think denmark also has a extremely evil and vile immigration system as well where they actually made a law thats its good and ok to steal refugees belongings then deport them
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borders are fascist they segregate people and keep them in a permanent state of exploitation and are maintained with violence
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:well back when Johnny Depp and Amber Heard were still together the government threatened to kill their dogs and forced them to film an ISIS style hostage video to get them to not do it Australia does a lot of hosed up poo poo around immigration but requiring dogs coming from countries with rabies to undergo 10 days of quarantine even if their owners are rich and famous is not one of them. They have a large and longstanding population of somewhat protected feral dogs and rabies could potentially devastate it. IMO the Pacific Solution, where illegal migrants are detained outside of Australian territory so that Australian law does not apply, was the real change in tone, although it was hardly great before then. It began in 2001. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Solution
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