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Did they not have a finalized design of the ship at that point or something?
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It was likely a very early design. The model for the ship itself might have been in flux. They had talked about some sets and designs that had been made for the new Star Trek show which became the movie had to be scrapped and redone since it didn't have the detail needed for movies. Probably true of the model itself they originally had.
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bull3964 posted:I mean, yeah but... drat I vaguely remember that thing. I was a lad so I was mostly going "Look at those warp nacelles!" and going  at the crew photos. I didn't notice how weird it looked.
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Given how sci-fi was usually marketed in that era, I wouldn't be surprised if the entirety of the guidance for that movie poster was "like the one in the TV show but, y'know, fancier lookin'."
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Pretty sure that poster is in actually a reuse of early concept art for the Phase II refit Enterprise. E: later concept art would much more closely resemble what would become the TMP refit, though at the time the changes weren't meant to be quite as extensive and the finaalized version was going to have more resemblance to the TOS original, with orange nacelle caps and the bronze satellite dish-style deflector:   
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Apr 21, 2024 03:25
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I kinda love the Phase II Enterprise tbh
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They used that Phase II TMP poster on the cover to the latest Blu-Ray set and just covered up the deflector with a flare.
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Be still my heart, as I’ve never liked TOS movies nacelles even though the rest of the ship looks great Also the covers of the James Blish novelizations of TOS episodes had some pretty cool paintings of the original enterprise with various … artist interpretations. They all looked cool as gently caress though as art pieces
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MikeJF posted:They used that Phase II TMP poster on the cover to the latest Blu-Ray set and just covered up the deflector with a flare.
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Yeah especially because 6 is a really important one for me. I don't want to buy the 4K set unless it's included.
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I think it was just a case of Paramount being greedy and hoping people would get impatient and double-dip. There’s a complete 6-movie 4K set now that iirc came out less than a year after that 4-movie set. They did a similar thing for the old Blu-rays where 2-4 came out as a trilogy set and then a complete set came later.
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I know there's also some weird Picard box set that has like all of TNG, all the TNG movies, and the three seasons of the Picard show
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Yeah, that big dumb expensive “The Picard Legacy” box.
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It should include Sisko telling him they've met before I'm sure it probably doesn't
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bull3964 posted:I mean, yeah but... That perspective makes the left nacelle look loving gigantic. I call her biggie smalls
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Kibayasu posted:That perspective makes the left nacelle look loving gigantic. Well that's just gravitational lensing due to harmonics of the warp field
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I'm watching the Wesley slap episode and when they do the bar scene geordi is talking to some twelve year old . That guy has real issues.
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I put on the JJ Trek movie the other night because I haven't seen in in years and years and thought I'd give it a go and boy did I forget how much I really hated the part with the car.
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Just rewatched the first episode of Best of Both Worlds and it does make you wonder what the show would be like if it had been Riker/Shelby from then on. Knowing now what I know about Stewart I kinda feel like it might be better? I always end up thinking that if the nearest help is six days away the borg should take a while to get to Earth, but I guess going at warp 9.6 or whatever is Very Fast so it's fine. And it winds me up when Worf says "They're going to Sector 001. The terran system" and Riker goes "Earth". Come on guys have some faith we know what Terran means
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I just found out there isn't a bluray release for DS9 or VOY and we're probably never getting anything official due to how the originals were edited. 
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Taear posted:Just rewatched the first episode of Best of Both Worlds and it does make you wonder what the show would be like if it had been Riker/Shelby from then on. I thought we were still the Sol system.
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AlternateNu posted:I just found out there isn't a bluray release for DS9 or VOY and we're probably never getting anything official due to how the originals were edited. Doing DS9 and VOY would probably not be a cost-effective move at this point
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Just put the entire series in DvD quality on a single BluRay already.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Well it also has to do with the fact that Paramount probably lost money on the TNG BluRays with all of the work they did on the effects and the cleanup of the footage. I wouldn't put it past whoever eventually buys Paramount to put out a lovely AI-powered upscale of Voyager and DS9 at some point now that the tech is rapidly advancing and getting cheaper and cheaper and just dump it on a streaming platform.
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I'll just wait until AI upscaling involves rewriting massive chunks of the show.
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There are fan AI upscales that apparently look pretty decent but I've never found the filez. There's also a Space Above and Beyond one on Youtube if anyone's never seen that show.
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Grand Fromage posted:There are fan AI upscales that apparently look pretty decent but I've never found the filez. Such a great show. Was upset in the day it got axed. It deserved better.
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I remember really liking it, but being a kid at the time. I should revisit it with fresh eyes.
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Space Above and Beyond had a lot of problems (in particular with its world building), but it had a ton going for it and it really deserved a second season to iron out those rough spots.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I remember really liking it, but being a kid at the time. I should revisit it with fresh eyes. Big same, I'd love to take another swing at it. I also just read on wikipedia that it was scored by the legendary Shirley Walker, so there's also that to look forward to!
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Maybe I'm part of the problem, but I'd rather watch a good HD upscale of DS9/VOY with some occasional weird glitchy bit than the current poor DVD encode on its own. It's unfortunate but both of those series look terrible right now and it's a huge bummer. Obviously we should all hope for an eventual proper restoration, but it's not a lamentable thing to have a version that is easier on the eyes on a big HDTV. There's some solid amateur AI upscales of other SD shows popping up on YouTube these days.
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How did DS9 do in the ratings when it aired, anyone know? The way some act and treat it, the show is considered the black sheep of the family and been shoved aside. Meanwhile Voyager is treated a great more reverence and honestly, it wasn't that good. Or perhaps should I say it never lived up to the potential of its concept and the talent it had. The BSG remake definitely did it better.
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The Last Call posted:How did DS9 do in the ratings when it aired, anyone know?  The hand off from TNG to DS9 was really good. About like 90% of the people who were watching TNG at the time tuned in for Emmisary, and then it just fell like a loving stone and never recovered thanks its first season being poo poo and it being SUCH a whiplash different show from TNG. The baton pass from DS9 to VOY tells a similar story. Basically everyone who was watching DS9 at the time tuned in for Caretaker, and then Voyager and Deep Space Nine just tumble down the hill together like Jack and Jill till they both end. Then there's a tiny bump in viewers tuning in to see what Enterprise is all about and quickly souring on it until it kills Trek on TV completely for about a decade.
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I'm surprised Enterprise's main run looks like it averaged higher than Voyager's last couple seasons.
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It's bizarre they canceled TNG based on those numbers. It looks like it had just reached It's peak.
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TNG wasn't really cancelled so much as they begged the studio to let them end. Voyager really was meant to just be a continuation with a new set of actors and ship.
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thotsky posted:It's bizarre they canceled TNG based on those numbers. It looks like it had just reached It's peak. Paramount’s thinking was twofold iirc; 1) more seasons meant bigger salaries for the cast and 2) they wanted to do TNG movies but didn’t think they’d be as successful if the show was also still airing at the time. Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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It's wild in those days a show could have a rollercoaster descent down the ratings and still get seven seasons and end on its own terms
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They wanted TNG to transition to movies as the TOS crew looked like pensioners, while this time also keeping the TV show alive with DS9 and VOY. If you look at the DS9 nosedive, the ratings are still above 10.0 around the time decision to end TNG was made. EDIT: And if you look closely, even if both DS9 and VOY did nosedive but their combined marketshare was around ~10.0 until the very end which was comparable to what TNG pulled alone, so that's why they got seven seasons each, and were followed by a prequel show. In the 90's when Star Wars in hiatus Star Trek was huge. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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