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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Why is there a new thread? Surely we have said all there is to say in the matter and now we have to say it all over again since there's no record of it

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I always loved this short story Thinking Meat where the aliens pass on earth because the idea of meat intelligence is gross and preposterous to them.

Not sure it would translate into a Trek script, but they've toyed with really-alien aliens a few times in classic and nuTrek.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Pretty good with the vibe. Is the younger dude the cash cab guy, someone from law and order, or just goon face memory disease. edit: it is the cash cab man!

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
What's the largest artificially habitable structure in Trek?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Didn't know we had Dyson spheres in Trek. Or is it just the one and which star or stars?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I like the episode with Flotter and those other freaks of nature.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
yeah sheer loving hubris is a lot less offputting and jarring than tasha backstory blurb.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

nine-gear crow posted:

Would have been better if it was "Season 1 didn't happen. Then Season 2 didn't happen. Then Season 3 beings..."

would've been better if Patrick Stewart decided to do literally anything else and they just couldn't make Picard

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Payndz posted:

What a bizarre way of rounding off a thoroughly positive review. Saying effectively "If SNW disappeared from canon, nothing of value would be lost" sounds incredibly negative and dismissive.

Probably because suggesting it replace the anachronistic TOS stuff is probably a hotter take than they wanted to make. But it definitely should. TOS being canon has held Trek down for too long

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

No Dignity posted:

It would seem really dumb to unlock SNW from canon when so much of the show is set up around Pike believing with good cause that he's a dead man walking and trying to be the best man he can be with that knowledge, it's great stuff!

You can still have that if SNW continues on and eventually their Kirk takes over. Assuming we like him enough anyway.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Beeftweeter posted:

i really wouldn't mind if they did a couple of episodes where we follow a different crew on a different ship. it doesn't even need to be kirk on the farragut

not that i don't like the SNW cast or anything, but it'd be an interesting idea. disco kinda did that with introducing pike anyway and the results were good enough

Oh for sure. All I ever really wanted was a new Trek with a new crew preferably set after Voyager with a time gap to bring it to the future "now" of Trek. Can still work in cameos from any era six ways to sundown whenever they want cash ins.

I like the SNW cast, but I'd like them if they were different characters too, it's not important that they are prequel/redos of classic characters. Ideally Discovery could've been that from the getgo, Burnham sans Sarek adoptions and weird pre-TOS shenanigans just doing normal Trek episodes.

So diversions to new crews is very welcome. It was good when LDS did it too.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Will you be lost if you haven't played all infinity of the other games yet?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

FuturePastNow posted:

The shows rarely ever gave us a proper demonstration of how powerful 24th century tech could be, or how superior the Federation is to most of its neighbors. One good example is The Wounded when the USS Phoenix goes rogue and shits all over the Cardassian ships trying to stop it. Or for a slightly dumber example, the Voyager episode where the Prometheus obliterates a D'Deridex.

The scene in The Die is Cast also comes to mind, where the 20-ship Romulan/Cardassian fleet bombards the planet and destroys 30% of the planetary crust in a single volley, before they find out the Dominion is the biggest shark in the water.

Lol if one fast rock hitting a planet causes a million years extinction event, what does sci-fi blasts obliterating 30% of the crust do?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
people in the the 90s had it so easy some of em didnt even had online

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Old shoes are always confusing when they try to show off a nice car. Columbo will have these clearly mega rich dudes who live in tuxedos and all that, but then they hop into some ugly bucker you assumed your great grandparents had because it fit the wheelchair thing or something.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

SlothfulCobra posted:

I feel like that's Trek forgetting that it's not Star Wars. Star Wars holograms are lovely and flickery and staticky because everything about Star Wars is that it's a universe where everything is worn-down and breaking for the aesthetic. Star Trek is supposed to be about the fancy technology of the future all working great. But modern audiences are less awed by such things and modern showrunners are less interested in trying to dream of a better future, so they go off in weird directions instead.

Enterprise on the other hand, was Star Trek forgetting it wasn't Stargate.

Star Wars broken down aesthetic wasn't intentional. Entropy was just extremely high in the late 60s and 70s so everything was just constantly breaking down and stuff look old as poo poo seconds after being made even when it was still technically brand new.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Rumple fuckin stiltskin. Who is acting like names ain't important. Is their name Dummy?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
DS9 is harder to pick up at a random spot than others, part of why I've never actually seen the final few seasons start to finish

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Why can't they teleport whole ships inside, why dock at all?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Voyager is cool and good and if you can't appreciate it there's always still time to work on yourself

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

davidspackage posted:

Patrick didn't even watch his own show until years later, how'd he know anyway :mad:

I know most don't watch their own stuff, and I can see wanting to skip over my own scenes, but there's no way I could be involved in a production and not want to see the finished product and what everyone was up to all that time. Especially when a lot of the coolest stuff happens behind you on set, I wanna see from the other angle.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007


what a terrible way to deliver news to anyone, let alone the news that their afterlife is a lie to a corpse you revived from some space graveyard

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

voyager has way too many aliens that are just people with a hat or headband or some craft junk glued to their hair. why was it like this

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

MuddyFunster posted:

I often just use it jokingly, I'm very much anti-canon. It just bogs everything down. If something's directly contradicting something from two episodes ago, sure, stupid, but tell the story at hand, don't worry too much about what happened way back in episode whatever of blah-de-blah 25 years ago. And no, I don't give a gently caress about Ice Cream Maker man in Cloud City and his super important secret spy mission.

I wonder what the Star Trek equivalent of Ice Cream Maker man is. Is it Skant Guy?

Ice Cream Maker sounds more interesting than the poo poo Star Wars has done post New Hope in its downward spiral. What's up with this ice cream man? Is it normal earth ice cream or do they use different milks or vegetables or nuts or what? Is it Force Ice Scream? Can it kill womptats?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Kibayasu posted:

Vic, much like Garak, made such a strong impression that it feels like he’s in way more episodes than he’s actually is.

Every time he comes up in this thread I think they're talking about one of the guys from Bioshock. IIRC that guy wasn't even real, just elaborate kayfabe puppeted by some other sinister 20s sounding name guy.

Vic Fontaine and Moopsy are both star Trek things I must have had seen, and that I must believe exist, but my mind is suspiciously devoid of personal recollection of either character in show.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Do the Prophets have good restaurants since they know all the best dishes?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

FlamingLiberal posted:

It’s crazy that there is never any attempt to supplement their medical staff of The Doctor, Kes (until she leaves) and Paris

In the Message in a Bottle episode they attempt to make a replacement Doctor but that goes nowhere.

People make terrible doctors. They aren't that good at their job, they can barely manage being on time or spending time in the room with a patient, make nurse do all work, unpleasant to talk to, will ignore your body in favour of whatever easy ideas they had first.

The surprising thing is that they didn't try and find some extra computer to install to have multiple EMH. Especially since a ship that size should have multiple medical bays, although maybe not with their reduced ragtag staff.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

MikeJF posted:

My fanwank is that there's specialised hardware running the EMH that they can't recreate with their resources at hand. (The mobile emitter can do it trivially because 29th century)

Honestly I buy it since he died once from scratch disk errors. And any tech they might've bought for a Doc2or would've been infected with bioneural viruses or kazon bombs or some poo poo.

My new proposal: niceBorg Doctor once Seven shows up and is installing her niceBorg gym.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I wish they did holiday episodes. Make it snowing in space for the Christmas special. Give us periodic Halloween episodes where everyone dresses up but becomes their costumes or whatever.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Timby posted:

Picard in its entirety, along with Nemesis, and probably about half of both Voyager and Enterprise and 95 percent of Discovery, is Trek that I'm perfectly comfortable never watching again.

drat I know some of y'all hate Voyager but feels stone cold to lump it in with discovery and Picard.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I'm with you. I think folks are more receptive to exploring world building for itself these days for a lot of different reasons, but especially because you can freely watch and look up and discuss that poo poo with people. Back then it was really easy to miss episodes with no reliable way to see them again in sequence, or for everyone to be invested or caught up in the same details and continuity across episodes.

That doesn't excuse any nutreks though.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
IDK why, Finders Keepers law is very straightforward on this matter.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
How does stolen property work in this situation? I know cops will never get stuff back for you and like to steal property for themselves or the gang, but are storage rentals places and locker buyers more honorable in this regard or is there a clear legal process so such buyers have to give it up?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Pwnstar posted:

Tbh if Pulaski doesn't believe that Data is genuinely sentient that's fine and is good setup for her either coming to believe so or deciding that the illusion is good enough that it doesn't matter. But when Data corrects her on the pronunciation of his name she's like "lmao who cares?"" so she can gently caress off with that poo poo. If there was a ship's dog or something and someone said "I don't care what you call it, its a dumb dog that doesn't know what I'm saying anyway" you'd not think this was a cool person telling it like it is.

It would also just be confusing for everyone else on the same page. Like if she just decides to call a tricorder a "trike". People would assume she's talking about a tricycle.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
We are all Tuvok in that moment

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
It's a planet made of him so that's fine.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Hahaha is that from the aliens who teleport away organs because they are shambling sickos made of rotting parts?

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

Far as I'm concerned, there is no Nu-Trek-Picard. Our time with Jean-Luc ends with Sisko's angry confrontation with him in Emissary.

I've gone to the memory editors and replaced all my memories of all scenes with any picard with

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