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Come on, they really only use the Volume for engineering (which looks like crap). The bridge, ready room, captain's suspiciously large quarters, corridors, sickbay, transporter room, they're all real sets.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2023 16:28 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 11:48 |
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Arivia posted:Oh, crazy. I knew they had something like that for the Mandalorian, but not for the new Star Trek series. Neat but also lovely. It's usually just replacing the matte painting for whatever planet they're beaming down on. It's a good use of it, in keeping with the vague "we're staging a play" sense that a lot of TOS and TNG/DS9/Voyager have. They also use it a lot less successfully to replace the mini-sets they built for whenever they hail someone and they show up on the viewscreen. There, it has the effect of "oh, I guess the Bird of Prey's bridge is uh, inside an empty cargo bay now?", it looks bad in that context. Some of the Star Wars shows (the non-Andor ones) are a lot more ambitious with their use of it, and it looks like absolute poo poo there. After a while you start noticing that actors are always standing very close together inside a void, and all the detail is far in the background. https://twitter.com/StarWars0nly/status/1692552165145882884
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2023 17:28 |
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FISHMANPET posted:Also, the mess hall in SNW was shot in the volume. It was a real set they put inside and basically just used it for the star field outside the windows. But for season 2 they built the bar set and intentionally didn't give it any windows, partially for production reasons. Oh, that's a really cool use of it. Seems logistically kind of a hassle to keep moving all that stuff back in, and it would probably be overkill to have a permanent AR wall as part of a standing set for the mess hall, but this looks great. https://twitter.com/flying_lobster/status/1526406493993590784
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2023 00:16 |
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Arivia posted:The ring drive ships are Starfleet ships though. That’s the whole point. They’re just Vulcan, not human. Federation, but not Starfleet. The Vulcan scientist from Lower Decks was transferred to Starfleet from a Vulcan High Command ship because she wasn't logical enough.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2023 20:16 |
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Angry Salami posted:Soulless continuity porn and rehashing TOS storylines? I was really surprised on a rewatch by how much Enterprise S4 didn't do it for me. It felt like a breath of fresh air at the time, I suppose because it was actually consistently trying to be Star Trek, but it still was just fundamentally Enterprise. Shran, Phlox, and the Trip/T'Pol relationship can't carry a whole show.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2023 23:53 |
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The flesh and blood counselor is for senior staff. Everybody else is expected to self-therapise using the holodeck.
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2023 03:55 |
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Tom Tucker posted:Precisely - fascism has historically always been a minority tolerated for gain by the center and feared by the left and there are moments when you can turn the lens back on it and win by hardening the majority at the top of the slippery slope. Sure it’s a bit Pollyanna-ish but it’s a 42 minute TV show so I allow it. Except, of course, in the case of Germany, where fascism was tolerated for gain by the KPD, and then the USSR.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2023 16:08 |
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thotsky posted:I don't really understand why one would even entertain the idea that Starfleet is not a horror show. How many ships were lost at Wolf 359? How many have been lost in some nebula, or found adrift with all crew dead? 40 ships, 11,000 dead. A tiny number!
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2024 02:48 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:The Federation are absolutely lovely tippers. Europeans visiting North America often are!
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2024 15:50 |
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Paradoxish posted:Yeah, this is me. Enterprise has bland characters but I still generally like them more in a "I can tolerate their presence on screen" kind of way. I realized in my last attempt to use Voyager as background noise while working that I just straight up can't stand Tom and Harry. Janeway is basically the only consistently entertaining character and only because Kate Mulgrew is some kind of wizard who managed to do a ton of work with wildly inconsistent and sometimes insane writing for her character. Enterprise at least remembers how its characters feel about each other. Voyager never remembered that Janeway and Tuvok are besties, or that Chakotay and Paris hate each other.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2024 23:25 |
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Didn't Chakoyay just hate Tom as part of the plan to expose the mole? It's one of the first things we learn about Tom and Chakotay, in the second scene of the show. quote:JANEWAY: Maybe. That ship was under the command of another former Starfleet officer, named Chakotay. I understand you knew him.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 00:03 |
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Eason the Fifth posted:anyone have that gif of voyager smashing into the giant reset button at the end of Year of Hell?
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 03:38 |
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dr_rat posted:Oh god with so many member plants and how many new first contacts there seem to continually be, the diplomatic department(?) of the federation must be good drat massive, drat thing if all put together would have to take up a reasonable sized city worth or people all by itself. The US State department has 60,000 employees. You could probably populate a planet with the UFP's diplomatic corps.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 14:18 |
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FISHMANPET posted:I think overall I preferred Babylon 5's take on these "so powerful they're gods" aliens which is that mostly they didn't give a poo poo about humans, and when some of them started caring too much about humans and other "young races" it set off an intergalactic war, rather than just being dissuaded by a good Captain Speech and roll credits. I mean the Shadow War very much does end with a good Captain Speech. Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Feb 7, 2024 |
# ¿ Feb 7, 2024 18:53 |
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Railing Kill posted:Workforce: OH GOD THIS ONE WAS SO loving BORING
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2024 03:49 |
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But again, Enterprise managed to remember that having MACOs on board would cause tensions with the crew, something that Voyager never remembered.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2024 01:21 |
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skasion posted:Voyager felt the influence of First Contact in a big way. Being chill and even boring like late TNG is out, it’s time to get Sexy and Thrilling! It’s very belated and tame Star Trek version of getting edgy for the 90s.
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2024 01:47 |
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The crowd in the tent in the First Contact clip is visibly different from the crowd when there's the actual flag raising and (I assume) they're playing the Swedish anthem.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 21:24 |
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Atlas Hugged posted:I know These are the Voyages is supposed to be trash. I'm sure you think you know.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2024 01:16 |
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MikeJF posted:Or if you really want to be fancy and have money for cameos, have each of the four acts be a different very quick thin framing story flashing back (not holosim) to different times in ENT: one from TOS, one from TNG, one from DS9, one from VOY. Each a little further down the ENT timeline, ending at the founding of the Federation. Then at the end you can pan across all of the future framing bits while we hear Archer's speech about how great the Federation will be. It owns so much that the final "farewell to this era of Trek" montage has voiceover from Picard, Kirk, and Archer and completely ignores VOY and DS9.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2024 17:48 |
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Boxturret posted:All I know is my 6th grade teacher really liked that ending speech and it was on a mixtape he'd play every now and then. That was probably the speech from Terra Prime. The speech from TATV doesn't happen: Troi says "I had to memorise this speech in school" and Riker says "yeah yeah and I'm ready to go talk to Picard now" and he goes "Computer, end program" just before Archer starts.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2024 18:41 |
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Boxturret posted:No I mean the final thing where they do the opening speech but it switches between all the captains of the enterprise. Huh. Completely impossible to imagine the mind of someone who's super excited to hear Archer say "to boldly go" as a few notes of Archer's Theme play.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2024 18:47 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:I thought the implication was that Riker had been larping it up through the entire series of Enterprise, because his character wasn't just some random extra hanging around the NX-01. He was chef, a figure that had been consistently and repeatedly referenced throughout the entire run of the show, who had more character and personality than some members of the bridge crew just through the constant allusions.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2024 01:07 |
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WhiteHowler posted:(If anyone isn't interested in these I can stop posting them; someone had enjoyed her TOS comments though, so I'll keep them up if there's interest.) I'm delighted every time you post one of these.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2024 15:21 |
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https://twitter.com/STDeltaShift/status/1778089959338934581
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2024 00:03 |
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bull3964 posted:Oh good, I was worried they were going to come up with a coherent franchise strategy. It's not a Pike movie, it's a George Kirk movie.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2024 14:32 |
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bull3964 posted:I'm now kinda worried that if Skydance does buy Paramount, they are going to try to make the JJVerse a thing again and let's not. Decades (plural) before Star Trek 2009.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2024 14:56 |
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Wikipedia has average season ratings every year. I plotted the top-rated show for each year here, you can see that the rise of FOX (+WB, UPN) and cable really did splinter the landscape quite a bit in the late-80s and 90s.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 20:41 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 11:48 |
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Ent S2E22 Cogenitor is a really Solid Episode of Star Trek that really lands the combination of "classic Star Trek premise" with "lol these people have no idea what they're doing they're the first humans to do this".
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 19:56 |