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Chain of Command is largely a great two-parter but they don't really do anything with the Jellico stuff. It's interesting seeing the main cast deal with a guy who has a more militaristic than parental leadership style, but it's never resolved. No, ah I see your methods also have some value, or anything, Jellico is just like "It was an honor to serve with you" while not making eye contact with anyone and fucks off. No growth or change occurred, except for the (excellent) change of costume for Troi. It is also the intro for the ultimate badmiral, Necheyev
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Trixie Hardcore posted:The Federation being a post-scarcity society where there are a lot of habitable worlds is a big part of why I don't think the Marquis work for everyone. Even in the first Marquis episode the Federation is like "we've got three planets that are similar to this one we can move you to and if those don't work we have a lot of options" and the impasse is that the specific planet the colonists are living on is spiritually important to them and I don't know if they ever make it clear why the other colonies that joined the Marquis weren't interested in relocating to planets in Federation territory but if you don't buy into the idea that one group of colonists spiritual beliefs are reason enough to restart the war between the Federation and Cardassia then the Marquis come across as kinda unreasonable. I didn't get the sense it was spiritual, Calvin was the voice of the Maquis in their first major appearance and he appeared to be doing it out of sheer cussedness and gently caress the Cardassians
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Pretty much every non-military fashion from 90s trek is an appalling disaster.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I just smoked a big bowl in my bong or maybe three, but I keep thinking about "Move Along Home" and it's really gotten under my skin. The game is Chutes and Ladders 
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Yeah, I'd say his definitive Trek role is in that series The alien that commissions the Major Kira deepfake porno from Quark
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Mister Kingdom posted:And is reborn as a universe filled with Andrew Robinsons. Well now Doctor....that would be an interesting universe indeed!
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BioEnchanted posted:I like the Vic Fontaine stuff in later seasons, it's a cute idea. Also the Chimera was a really cool episode. I loved the other changeling who has mastered form, even able to become something formless Laas is such a loving dickhead, I guess that's just how they naturally are. Hertzler's great in that role. Agreed on the Vic stuff, I love the Vic stuff, all of it, I love that guy. Though I'm surprised Quark allows a better bar to go on within his bar.
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BioEnchanted posted:I've finished DS9. The stuff with Cardassia was pretty satisfying, although with harrowing results in the long term. I also like that the transformation of Ferenginar is an inevitability, because eventually people stop accepting the bullshit and fight against it, and Zek takes note after falling in love with one of them, and then starts paying attention to the state of things. The changes probably weren't ALL due to Quark's mother, after all, Zek noticed that some dingus failed to properly observe safety protocols and plunged his capital into acid rain. Also the new consortium of Ferengi that pass or veto new laws have agreed with all the positive changes, so clearly Quark and Brunt's attitude was an outlier and most ferengi wanted things to get better. Frengis went WOKE
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Quark's not an idiot, he's just cross pressured. All the other ferengi are on the Enlightened side (Rom, Moogie, Pel, Nog) or on the Greed side (Liquidator Brunt, FCA, all the other ones we ever see). Quark is just in that transition from evil to enlightened, which means that he needs to make a lot of mistakes in order to realize the shortcomings of Pure Ferengi Thought. There's also a very, very old folk tale structure where a lovable but simple oaf is able to win against the shrewd, conniving chiseler and I think they're tapping into that big time with the Rom/Quark dynamic
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Gaz-L posted:Or, put another way, he's Worf. Lol that would make him so mad
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Yooo someone itt talking poo poo about Morn?
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Mmmm but that voice is pure liquid latinum
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The Main Man Morn
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disaster pastor posted:The Circle trilogy is not the best DS9 multiparter (you could even argue it's the worst), but it works on such a fundamental level that you totally get why everyone looked at it and said, "hey, we can do this a lot more, and lean on our recurring characters instead of highlighting one-offs," and that's the one major piece of DS9's structure that season 1 didn't have yet. Frank Langella is great in it
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Atlas Hugged posted:I always wonder with retro watches like this if the viewer (me in this case) is going to land the hammer on the head of some controversial nail or in-joke that fans have discussed to death for ages. I'm glad in this case, it's an in-joke and not some highly controversial point about the subtle portrayal of the characters. You will and you will find that everyone here is quite happy to relitigate whatever issue you raise ad nauseam. Oh and by the way, transporters are suicide booths.
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Junkball’s got a new video on the Titan A today, some literal lol moments
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I thought I read somewhere that Sisko's hostility toward the era mirrored Brooks' hostility towards the era and so they wrote that in, but all I can find is about how they wrote him in specifically because ISB wanted to have him sing on an episode.
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https://twitter.com/DylanRoth/status/1668618559738748930 Hell yeah
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Well if only there was some way to recreate the full quote beyond this fragment....wait, of course...WARP PARTICLES!quote:The comparison against the lore-stuffed, nutrient-free fan candy of the final season of Star Trek: Picard is night and day. So much media during this age of the perpetual franchise extension feels like it could be written by an AI, absorbing the previous hundred hours of a saga and extrapolating what the next hundred hours might look like, without the benefit of any real imagination. It’s not new, it’s merely more. Strange New Worlds was willed into existence by a campaign of fans who were hungry for the familiar, but it nevertheless feels fresh and vital. It has the unmistakable flavor of real human investment. Its Spock/Chapel/T’Pring love triangle may have been suggested by The Original Series, but it belongs to this series, and to these storytellers. Its Ensign Uhura honors the memory of Nichelle Nichols, but she is her own entity, and a joy to watch on her own merits. If Strange New Worlds were suddenly to divert from the Star Trek canon entirely and veer off into its own continuity, never reconciling with the classic series, nothing of value would be lost. That, for my money, is the highest compliment you can pay to any prequel. It's in direct comparison to s3 Picard, which however you feel about it, was positively wallowing in canon and fan service. The author is just saying that SNW stands on its own and is a good show apart from also being a Star Trek show.
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Khanstant posted:Probably because suggesting it replace the anachronistic TOS stuff is probably a hotter take than they wanted to make. But it definitely should. TOS being canon has held Trek down for too long  I watched The One Where Troi Kills Holo Geordi the other day and I forgot the A plot to that was amnesiac Data hands out ionizing radiation to simpletons. I felt so uncomfortable watching everyone handle that poo poo.
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Timby posted:Homicide: Life on the Street, too. That "So you've been arrested for murder" scene is bad rear end
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It helped but I would also like to credit the showrunners, writers, directors, cast, and crew.
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Der Kyhe posted:It was a spin off for Ally McBeal, a lawyer dramady with cutaway jokes, first Internet memes and fast cuts. If I remember correctly, Boston Legal was if nothing else a toned down version of the format. The Practice. Though they were both David E Kelly shows and they did some crossovers with Ally McBeal. Of course I think the best of all of them is Boston Legal: Deep Space Nine but longtime fans balked at the more serialzed and grounded storylines.
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Irish village episodes are the worst voyager episodes, hands down
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Aces High posted:As someone who recently watched The Search, I was just wondering how the heck everyone was going to survive PERIOD, considering how absolutely outclassed even the Defiant was. Your side, don’t you understand? Don’t you realize all he did for you? If not for Dukat, your life would have been so much worse, he helped you, protected you. He never wanted to hurt you. He had to, to keep you safe.
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FISHMANPET posted:One episode, of Lower Decks ironically, really exemplifies this for me. The episode where Rutherford gets "taken over" by his previous personality, and Tendi notices that somethings off with his behavior. She talks to the doctor, and the doctor is like "yup ok let's investigate" and they go out with Shaxs and try to find him. Never for a moment does the doctor or Shaxs doubt Tendi. She says something is wrong with Rutherford, and they just immediately and without question trust her. While it serves a narrative function to move the story along (if the senior staff questioned every weirdo thing that happened on their show they'd spend most of their time verifying that there was, indeed, a problem), it does create an atmosphere of trust and openness. Even warp bubble Picard was humoring Crusher's ridiculous suspicions that a Galaxy class starship needs more than two crew members. I think the apotheosis of this is The One With the Transporter Worms, when Barclay - a known crank and freak - gets the senior staff out of bed about these transporter worms. And instead of bitching him out for waking them all up, they immediately treat his concerns as serious and engage in a thorough investigation in to the case of there being some guys in transporter space. As I've watched the three golden age trek series, I've been struck again and again how every crew member is instantly believed and listened to whenever there's a weirdo thing happening. Too much drama is manufactured in sci fi by people disbelieving the one person who is afraid something is going on and has some pretty compelling proof and must convince people that it is going on. Star Trek basically cuts that whole dynamic out, and not only does it streamline stories but it creates an air of supportiveness and trust among the crew.
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 Though the Fury ones were technically set during season one and frozen Flyer was her last appearance chronologically. Regretfully, Naomi did not likewise disappear. Man OUaT is a terrible episode. zoux fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Beeftweeter posted:those are all pretty bad episodes lol. and not necessarily because of naomi wildman either Deadlock is good imo and I thought Mortal Coil was alright. But yeah, Elogium is arguably one of the worst in the series, so is Tattoo.
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I like any episode where Harry Kim dies. https://twitter.com/TVMoJoe/status/1672303666269933568 I'd post this in the other thread but I haven't seen this weeks SNW yet. Nevertheless, what the gently caress?
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I swear to god I have watched at least the first three seasons of Enterprise but I have no memory of nearly all of these episodes. They do take some big swings even if they spin around into a corkscrew and drill into the dirt like a Bugs Bunny cartoon. "Honey, cancel the nursery, there shall be no baby this season. SOMEONE has taught our gimp how to read"
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It was 2002, it hadn't occurred to anybody. We've completely changed our vocabulary on the way we talk about gender and sexuality so when you watch these old shows, even ones 10 years old, they use what are now very awkward terms. That they are trying to do positive progressive messages in most of these episodes kind of compounds it. "Ey, broads can take a poo poo, just the same as any man". Revolutionary for 1987, weird in 2023. Also the show takes a very Maxim Magazine approach to gender dynamics. But yeah the use of the "it" pronoun and the insane lack of regard came across more as a weird sub/dom BDSM sexual arrangement. Maybe it was, we never did get to see Phlox's pictures.
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Beeftweeter posted:just one of many unspeakable horrors to happen to him on the show How long did he walk around DS9 trying to figure out what he'd done to piss off Riker after Thomas pulled his poo poo
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The Homeland badmiral was probably pretty smug after the invasion of Betazed and death tolls approaching billions. Honestly post-Dominion war it's malpractice for the Federation to keep pushing this idea of peaceful exploration over public safety and security. Like how many times has humanity almost been wiped out, and that's just on the handful of ships that we've seen. Set that post-scarcity manufacturing base to "kill".
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Halfway through ENT s3 and I think I've solved the Archer problem: Scott Bakula is horribly miscast. Bakula is an extremely nice guy, he can only radiate nice guy vibes. He'd've been a wonderful chill, nurturing Picard-style captain but instead he's an throw-em-in-an-airlock, withhold-the-pain-medicine Sisko-style captain. Bakula cannot sell "I'm am doing what must be done" at all. They also shouldn't have put in my mind the idea of a series where Keith Carradine is captain of NX-01, because he can pull off that style of captain.
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The federation Althing.
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Der Kyhe posted:They also should have kept original concept of the true grit space trucker Mayweather instead of hiring that cheese cake who could barely act. He's better than I remember but yeah, he ain't great. And the whole idea of a human spacefaring industry outside of starfleet, one that uses busted up old and slow ships and undertake months or years long voyages, is super interesting! They just don't explore it enough. I also don't like the idea of the Xindi, idk why they made them a pentad of species (all of whom are apparently closer to one another genetically than we are to chimpanzees, except that some of them are literally insects and lizards), Just make them one or maybe two species, or do something like The Covenant. As they are presented though, they're just confusing. Maybe there's a point to them that I haven't reached - I just saw the episode where they gaslit the poo poo out of the xindi weapon designer - but there's no narrative value added to the different species. You can do factionalism within a single species.
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No Dignity posted:T'pol/Tucker in season 4 actually was a sweet romance though and probably the best effort on the series, so I'm happy Trineer ended up where he did Dead in a holodeck sim? I will not be watching These Are the Voyages, btw.
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