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Doomykins posted:Back end of Act 3 when you go to hell and Azmodan is like "start torturing the bound hell giants to power us up" and they're in the background of the helltowers and it's kinda cool but the spider demon boss is pretty weak and he keeps doing the skype calls every other area and aside from the slightly harder tile-set and different enemies it doesn't really do anything so it's all narrative hype building. Battering ram scene was probably the best scene in D3. Or at least the most metal scene.
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MrMidnight posted:D4 = parody porn I had to do a google to get this but ngl i'd rather watch the mario brother looking guy eat cake while fuckin than whatever that was lol
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I really like all the act 2 tile sets in d3. The caldeum sewers, the various wastelands n deserts, the shadowy nether prisons. All bangers
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I hated Act 2 the most in D3. Loved the game overall. I liked how arcadey it felt. Once loot 2.0 came out it was an amazing game and I still come back for some seasons.
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I liked Act V the least in D3 because 99.9% of your time in the overworld is spent on bounties and A5 has the most tedious objectives.
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Is it not weird that the PTR ended like a month prior to the season going live? How am i supposed to make numbers go up between now and mid-May?
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wasnt season 3 extended a month? I think their release schedule was thrown off with that decision.
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They don’t want PTR running outside of their ability to meaningfully respond to feedback before the season release so that seems fair to me. If you want to click on monsters in the meantime I suggest Fate.
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you could always play no rest for the wicked if you want a real challenge. it's endgame is about as flushed out as this one though
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Finally started playing Diablo 4. Pretty drat good as expected.
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RestingB1tchFace posted:Finally started playing Diablo 4. Pretty drat good as expected. It is good and fun.
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Switched to the HotA / Charge Barb build on maxroll and lol. Shoulda switched 10 levels ago. Bosses occasionally seem to take very little damage, but then like 3/4 of their health bar disappears at once. Hit level 82, finished off the battle pass, and now I'm building up some boss mats. Saving some Aspects just in case I get a Hellhammer to drop, but otherwise I'll ride this build out for the next 3 weeks. Should be in Gauntlet shape by the weekend if that ever comes together.
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External Organs posted:I have no idea what you're talking about here That's incredible because to me its the MOST visually evocative setting ive seen in a lot of video games. Its just neat. Doomykins posted:Back end of Act 3 when you go to hell and Azmodan is like "start torturing the bound hell giants to power us up" and they're in the background of the helltowers and it's kinda cool but the spider demon boss is pretty weak and he keeps doing the skype calls every other area and aside from the slightly harder tile-set and different enemies it doesn't really do anything so it's all narrative hype building. Ah yeah see I have only ever been there in adventure mode or whatever so it's just a cool as hell background for me.
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Just started playing world tier 3 for the first time. Now all the vendor trash that drops is special and shiny but the legendaries aren’t. What a bizarre design decision.
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runchild posted:Just started playing world tier 3 for the first time. Now all the vendor trash that drops is special and shiny but the legendaries aren’t. What a bizarre design decision. World tier 3 is awesome
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runchild posted:Just started playing world tier 3 for the first time. Now all the vendor trash that drops is special and shiny but the legendaries aren’t. What a bizarre design decision. just wait 2 weeks 
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Given that this is on Gamepass now I’m considering trying it, but I’m not sure I’m ready for Blizzard’s writing. How excruciating is it this time?
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The Lone Badger posted:Given that this is on Gamepass now I’m considering trying it, but I’m not sure I’m ready for Blizzard’s writing. How excruciating is it this time? (Apparently there was, at one point though early in dev, the infamous "rape script", with some writer unreasonably attached to its edgelordy poo poo, but that eventually got the bin) Bisse fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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The Lone Badger posted:Given that this is on Gamepass now I’m considering trying it, but I’m not sure I’m ready for Blizzard’s writing. How excruciating is it this time? Almost everybody who played the campaign was positively surprised. More than good enough to go through it at least once. If you compare it to the D3 campaign it might as well be a different genre.
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I didn't personally enjoy the campaign that much, but it was serviceable and had a couple of standout moments. Reasonable enough, I feel.
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The Lone Badger posted:Given that this is on Gamepass now I’m considering trying it, but I’m not sure I’m ready for Blizzard’s writing. How excruciating is it this time? It is a significant step up from Diablo 3 and overall a perfectly serviceable campaign story elevated by some very good voice actors working their asses off, imo.
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The story was better than Diablo 3. But the ending was stupid. Neyrelle takes Mephisto away, for some reason she has to do this alone. Why? Yeah it's an obvious cliffhanger for an expansion, but I just don't get the reasoning.
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Neyrelle is enthralled by Mephisto. He helps the MC because he is in a very limited state of power while he regenerates but he's still an immortal arch-deceiver so by the end of it Mephisto greets the player in hell as they have a soul stone capable of containing him or Lilith. To the script's immense credit he doesn't gloat or try to push you in either direction. If you put him in the soul stone he'll beat it in time because Diablo is a grimdark tragedy until the hero defeats the final bosses, the Horadrim always self-sacrifice to buy time. If you put Lilith in it he'll reform in hell. He lets you and Neyrelle reach a decision you're(or at least she is) confident in without interference. His gambit paid off and he's got the immortality-brained wisdom to wait and cash in. His only true loss scenario is if Lilith reaches and absorbs him. Admittedly he turns Neyrelle really fast but that's expac pacing for you. Neyrelle is also set up to desperately want to remain useful so she's ripe for having her human faults exploited by one of the three big satans of the setting. The only real plot hole is by necessity of being a videogame: it turns out we can take Lilith in a fight. Forgiveable enough, though Lilith's role in the story is ultimately a bit half-baked. Doomykins fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Thanks for the info. Yeah D3 was the basis I was comparing it against, and "nothing at all like that" sounds good to me.
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I also started playing diablo 4 and it was good and fun until I hit a wall with a minions build in tier 4. I switched to bone spear and all is good and fun again. Although I would prefer it if there was more than 1 workable build. Main issue I have with late game progression is how disjointed everything is, I need to do: 1) Run nightmare dungeons for glyph experience 2) Run helltides for item upgrade mats 3) Do open world/ whisper stuff for season progression/ renown 4) Run vaults to upgrade the spider thing (but from what I understand this won't persist beyond the season so I don't think I'll bother) I gave up bothering on things like Lilith statues pretty early on. Does this really need to be repeated every season? Is there any way of finding them other than looking it up on a website? Also, obols are giving me nothing in tier 4.
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Lilith statues only need to be done once, then they persist from season to season, thank god. Website is the best way to find them all, otherwise you just have to scour the world. Necro minions are getting very significant buffs in Season 4, also thank god.
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Doomykins posted:Plot Yes, and it’s still stupid. The one-armed teenager runs off with the corrupting macguffin and Lorath and the Wanderer just shrug. Also the way Donan dies is real dumb. Whoops, part of the scenery poked you, bye bye big guy.
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The best part of the story was mephisto helping the pc, that was fun.
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Betjeman posted:I also started playing diablo 4 and it was good and fun until I hit a wall with a minions build in tier 4. Your character also won't persist beyond the season - so none of the rest of that will matter in a month's time either. What you should do now, if you haven't: - Collect all of those Lilith statues. Each gives you a small buff, but they stack up a great deal in the end, and each gives you a small amount of relatively cheap renown - Grind out the Renown bonuses for each zone - this persists season-to-season and gives you an absolutely massive head start in the early game, and again when you hit 50 and unlock paragon. It makes levelling in WT2 actually worthwhile, and moving to WT3 at around 45-50 possible and also worthwhile. - You should grab all the strongholds, statues, do side quests, many of which are fun, or really short and dead easy. They also give you obols and herbs which are useful to have. But this is the only way you're going to get all that renown besides slogging through 150 very similar and mostly annoying dungeons. - Get all the waypoints and explore the map if you haven't. You will need to unlock the waypoints again, but the map carries over to a new season too Beyond that, not much carries over, so just do whatever you enjoy until the season rolls over.
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Betjeman posted:
You can combine 1 and 4 by just running Nightmare Vaults, and mainly just Vault of Stone at that. There's a NMD Tier List on Maxroll that list the best ones for xp. The spider won't stick around after this season, but neither will your character. It will get moved to the Eternal server and if you want to do the season 4 stuff you'll have to make a new one. Sometimes Helltides and Whispers overlap so that is the best time to get them done. If you're in WT4, Whispers start falling off for xp at about level 75. The Renown stuff is good to get done since it stays done, account-wide, for all future seasons. Some of the statues in particular give you skill or paragon points, too. Again, when the Whispers / Helltide are active in a zone, look up a map of that zone and knock out the statues and any side quests that seem fun and it won't feel like extra work. Obol gambling is mainly there to get you Aspects you need, not actual useful gear. Use this site to look up the Aspects you want and it will tell you the best items to spend Obols on. It's kept me in Ancestral Charge Aspects pretty reliably. tl;dr - Run S Tier Vaults and NMDs, mix it up with Helltides and Whispers, knock out the renown stuff while you're there. Gamble Obols on items that will give you Aspects for your build.
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Taking away content and then requiring you to abandon your character if you want the new content they replace it with is extremely off putting, personally. I see why it would keep some people on the treadmill, but it’s much more likely to knock me off it.
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runchild posted:Yes, and it’s still stupid. The one-armed teenager runs off with the corrupting macguffin and Lorath and the Wanderer just shrug. Also the way Donan dies is real dumb. Whoops, part of the scenery poked you, bye bye big guy. Yeah the MC and Lorath goofed hard and Donan got robbed. Love that Mephisto tho.
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runchild posted:Taking away content and then requiring you to abandon your character if you want the new content they replace it with is extremely off putting, personally. I see why it would keep some people on the treadmill, but it’s much more likely to knock me off it. that's because you haven't played for very long
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runchild posted:Taking away content and then requiring you to abandon your character if you want the new content they replace it with is extremely off putting, personally. I see why it would keep some people on the treadmill, but it’s much more likely to knock me off it. seasons are good and fun. there’s not enough endgame to play one guy forever.
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I don't really like the idea of a character being "disposable" in any kind of rpg, but I realize I'm in the minority here.
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I’ll admit it took me a bit to come around on it because I’d usually stick to one main in MMOs. I’ve had a lot of fun playing three different classes to endgame here and seeing different goofy gimmicks and broken builds with each season.
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Kaysette posted:I’ll admit it took me a bit to come around on it because I’d usually stick to one main in MMOs. I’ve had a lot of fun playing three different classes to endgame here and seeing different goofy gimmicks and broken builds with each season.
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I get the appeal of alts and I will probably make them, but doing it on their schedule rather than mine rankles. I only just beat the campaign recently, so I’ve got 3 weeks to engage with the season 3 stuff and then poof, it’s gone. And I’ve barely touched the “endgame” content at this point so I’m not bored of it. I know that comes down to bad timing on my part, but that’s what I’m saying - their model has a lot of friction if you don’t engage with it the “right” way.Node posted:I don't really like the idea of a character being "disposable" in any kind of rpg, but I realize I'm in the minority here. Okay yeah that also helps me clarify another thing that rubs me the wrong way about it. I like Nia the Necromancer and I don’t like that she’s going to be shunted off to a gimped version of the game. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to play as Beef the Barbarian, but I’m perfectly capable of starting a new character on my own terms without them de-emphasizing my other character(s) for me. In the end though I’m not really looking for Diablo 4 to be a forever game, so they don’t have much reason to appeal to me.
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I appreciate I need to start a new character in the new season, but the old one is there in eternal if I feel like revisiting, however from what I understand the spider will disappear forever, so I don't see the point at this late stage in the season to bother at all with it (and honestly, considering how short the seasons are, I'm not sure I would bother at all unless it was OP) E: Cool that renown sticks around, I think I'll concentrate on that Betjeman fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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