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Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Goon discord: https://discord.gg/kVgpMVkfZT

Release information
Early access for deluxe/ultimate editions: 6/1/23 (7pm eastern)
Release date for standard edition: 6/5/23 (7pm eastern)

Classes
Barbarian
Druid
Necromancer
Rogue
Sorcerer

Resources
D4 Database: https://diablo4.cc/us/

Build Guides:
https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/
https://maxroll.gg/d4/

Skill/Paragon/Build Planners:
https://lothrik.github.io/diablo4-build-calc/
https://d4builds.gg/skill-trees/
https://d4planner.io/skilltree/Barbarian/

All Important Diablo 4 Terms Explained Fast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_g9lvCjWkg

Useful info from goons
Getting big damage: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=532209207
A bunch of useful info about the UI/Settings: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=532165275
Min/Max nerd stuff: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=532198836
Launch day guild invite info: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=532202062

Ehud fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Dec 29, 2023

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Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

reserved for things

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

12 hours

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

George H.W. oval office posted:

Why is there a new thread

the old one is being goldmined

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Vapor Moon posted:

I haven't paid any attention to D4 news, has there been any endgame content properly shown off or is it a D3 situation where we get to find out how 'fun' it is when we get there after release?

It launches with an endgame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGDizGfd5KQ

basically there are nightmare dungeons (d3 rifts with added mechanics), whispers of the dead (world objectives you complete for d3 style bounty rewards sort of), helltides (d2 terror zones, get a currency used to unlock chests with good items), fields of hatred (PVP)

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Vapor Moon posted:

That's people talking buzz words over promo footage.

They cover a basic explanation of each system once you get past the 45 second mark. I was trying to avoid linking a 30 minute long, longwinded explanation from a content creator.

Here is a short text explanation of the endgame systems at launch.

https://www.polygon.com/23671429/diablo-4-endgame-activities-paragon-nightmare-dungeons-pvp

WORLD TIERS
Upon completing the campaign, players will get access to a special “capstone dungeon,” Piepiora says. Completing that dungeon will unlock the first World Tier, which will in turn unlock a new level of difficulty, but also grant access to powerful new loot and other advantages for your character. If you want Diablo 4 to be much, much harder, this is for you.

PARAGON SYSTEM
Beyond the base skill tree, players can further customize their characters using the Paragon system. The Paragon board will offer “a lot more depth, a lot more customization,” Piepiora says. Calder noted that players can rotate the Paragon board to personalize the overall direction of their endgame upgrades — many of which look like boosts to character stats.

Related to the Paragon system is the Codex of Power, through which players can equip Aspects, which can be earned through dungeons. Through Aspects, players can make items they find in Diablo 4’s world more powerful, turning them into legendary-class items.

NIGHTMARE DUNGEONS
Players can return to dungeons they’ve already played through and modify them with a Sigil. These Sigils, Sweetring explains, will “alter the play style and intensity of a dungeon.” Nightmare Dungeons are more difficult, have additional objectives, and will feature modifiers called Affixes. Piepiora highlighted one of those Affixes: Hellgate, which will randomly open up portals inside of dungeons that summon monsters not native to the region.

There are “over 120 dungeons to play through and find in Diablo 4,” Piepiora says, and every one of them can become a Nightmare Dungeon.

ENDGAME EXPLORATION
The overworld of Diablo 4 will also be modified to include targeted activities in areas called Helltides. Monsters become harder, and new environmental effects, like meteors falling from the sky, will pester players as they try to slay the forces of Hell.

There’s also a bounty system centered around a location called the Tree of Whispers, which tasks players with completing bounties in various locations across Sanctuary to earn rewards. These are contained activities that players can do solo or with a group, Blizzard says.

THE FIELDS OF HATRED
Parts of the world of Sanctuary are poisoned by Lilith’s presence, and when players visit them, they can engage in player-vs-player combat. Players can earn items called shards in PvP, and redeeming them involves a twist: Shards must be “purified” before they can be redeemed back in town, and other players can try to stop you (and steal your shards) on your return journey. That system brings a bit of extraction shooter flavor to Diablo 4. Purified shards can be turned in at towns to purchase special cosmetic reward

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

BrianBoitano posted:

My 4 month old woke me up at 10, 11, 11:30, 11:45, 12:15, 5, 5:15, 5:45 last night. My hardcore druid will probably die from my sleep deprived rear end or from panic trying to TP when munchkin wakes up tonight. Wish me luck!!


lol if you didn't plan your child's birth around the D4 release

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I think we have enough people who will be around at launch to have a good list of options to cover everyone who wants an invite to the Goon Guild.

Info for Guild invite:

- Not making the guild public.

- Name: Goon Squad <GOON>

Initial List of people who you can whisper for invites starting on early access launch:

Solomon#1509
Robomonke#1881
stringless#11492
iii#12957
Delpino#1188
Sulal#1715
Mojo#21911
juicydump#1937
Waroduce#1699
Blaquetooth#1981
LambBear#1602


That should ensure that there is basically always someone on to ask for an invite, even if you are in a gross foreign time zone or play during standard work hours because you are not a productive member of society.

See all you Goons in about 10 hours!

ty adding info to OP

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Speaking of performance, friendly reminder that Nvidia put out D4 drivers on 5/30. Be sure to update before tonight!

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

*Diablo IV: A perfect Summer night. You have just ordered KFC. You are 39 years old. The year is 2023.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.


yeah it's not better than finger clickin' good, but nothing ever will be and it would be good to have a new title imo

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Doctor Zero posted:

Could add put Cult of Ythrl <YTHRL> in as the second Guild for when the first inevitably fills up.

Ythrl's Devoted will welcome you to his slimy embrace.
DoctorZero#1841
(more to be added when I can actually login)

ty I wondered who was going to do this

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

1 hour

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I can't believe I haven't had a single server issue yet.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Astryl posted:

Friendly reminder to always drink elixirs for 5% bonus XP.

lol I got my elixir and haven’t used it yet

Lots of new mechanics to learn.

I’m an old man, I’m confused!

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

The game is good and if the seasonal content is good then I’ll play it for years until D5 comes out or I die irl

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I said come in! posted:

There is a quest in Act V where if you teleport to the nearest waypoint for it, then the NPC to start it will just straight up disappear from the gameworld.

It’s wild that you’re running into so many bugs.

I’m about to beat the campaign and I haven’t encountered a single bug.

Has everyone else had a lot of bugs or is come in! an outlier?

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I said come in! posted:

God I hope i'm an outlier. Are you playing on console? that seems to be more stable?

Nope, I’m on PC :shrug:

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

MikeC posted:

So I take it from the posting that the servers are generally solid and if I fork over the extra money for access this weekend odds of me being able to actually are good?

They’ve been super solid. I’ve had brief lag hiccups a handful of times. No queues.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Beat the campaign last night and then rolled a hardcore character.

Adventure mode is so good. Having a horse at level 1 is sick.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Memnaelar posted:

Are aspects pulled off gear better than the permanent ones you earn from dungeons? It appears to me they are. The legendary aspects I pull off legendary gear seem to have multipliers based on putting them on the "right" sort of gear whereas the codex of power ones don't. Then again, the legendary ones appear to come fixed at a certain power level (based on the item they were on) so I'm not sure how they scale compared to codex ones (which I assume match the level of the gear they're initially applied to?)

Anyone know of a resource to sort through this stuff? Definitely wish the game had a pedia.

Yep. Part of the gear grind in D4 is finding better aspects out of gear than what you can get from dungeons.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Making sure I avoid spoilers -

I just want to say that the in-game extended cinematic that served as the release date trailer is the coolest video game cinematic I’ve ever seen.

It just kept getting more awesome.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I think this form of rebalancing was to be expected. They’ve been touting how proud they are of their ability to rebalance quickly on the fly to address class balance issues ever since the Necro rebalancing during one of the play tests.

I think they’re going to do this whenever a particular build is head and shoulders above the rest.

Hopefully the effects are less jarring in the future. This is a unique situation in that the theory crafters got that 7-10 day access and were able to figure out insanely OP stuff right before the game first launched.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

coelomate posted:

welp, I tried an alt to ground renown and discovered some rewards are account bound, but the entire renown system is otherwise reset for each character. Still kinda neat, but not nearly as alt-friendly as I initially thought :smith:

What stuff isn't account bound? I found that if you start a new character you get the renown reward skill points and potions automatically from level 1.

The new character can still redo the renown stuff for XP and gold though.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

The in-game cosmetic drops have been a fun surprise. I had no idea they were doing those, but I’ve gotten 2 horse skins and a cool little flag for my horsey.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Mayveena posted:

I couldn't handle the last Act II boss, not to mention Act III. I need some help and maybe there's gonna be a new clan? I feel like this 65 year old body just may not have enough anymore. I'm also having trouble understanding all of these different ways to upgrade my character, especially the aspect stuff. Any good videos doing a complete explanation I could watch?

Are you on World Tier 1 or World Tier 2?

If you're on 2, drop it to 1.

Here is a 4 minute video on aspects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKKSbT_cZaw

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Dreissi posted:

Hey fellow hardcore players guess what. I was fighting Lilith and I fell.

When that happened to me in normal, I immediately thought, "I'm so glad my first campaign wasn't on hardcore." lol

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Anyone starting another overflow clan? All three in the OP are now full.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

The Gallows posted:

The goon discord link doesn't work and I'm in need of a friend or two for the capstone dungeon.

I can't believe how much fun I'm having on it.

https://discord.gg/kVgpMVkfZT

Updated in OP with a perma link.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I will never play on controller. My wrists are strong. I've been training to play D4 on KB/M my entire life.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Black Griffon posted:

Ah gently caress it. [ABEL] Awful Bone Economy Lodge is up. Come one come all!


Added to the OP!

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Cyrano4747 posted:

Mind adding [LLJK] SA GOON SQUAD?

It's full, but it's another one for the list that's been around for a while.

done and done

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

KrunkMcGrunk posted:

mods please change my av to whoopi goldberg playing diablo 2 on a crt in 1999

midjourney prompt





she looks so happy :unsmith:

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Whoopi finally gets a PC to play D4 and sees the queue.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/status/1666933152093462528?s=20

somebody please think of the servers

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Mine just jumped down to 36 mins left. They may have just flipped a switch.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I think I just found the werewolf build of my dreams. This is what I'm going to start building towards because pulverize is really rough for farming in low density areas.

https://d4builds.gg/builds/9d343d8e-2e65-40a6-b70d-fd39e6b99373/

Super fast attacks and werewolf form all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dzCoR3U-qw&t=23s

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

M. Night Skymall posted:

Pretty sure you're anti-guide anyway, but the guides are dumb for pulverize and don't prioritize max spirit. If you go into the max spirit nodes on the ancestral guidance paragon board and take the max spirit skill point nodes you end up with a lot of spirit, I have 165, and with even a bit of a spirit cost reduction you can pulverize 5-7 times with your spirit maxed, this makes it way more likely you'll get an earthen might proc before you run out. Made the build feel so much better to play for me.

Oh, no. I follow guides. I'm following the maxroll pulverize guide.

I'll keep that in mind though. Only pulverizing 2-3 times per globe of spirit is frustrating.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

ChocNitty posted:

What are your guys initial impressions on the game so far?

I love D4 and if the seasons and expansions are good then I'll play this for years and years.

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Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Hauki posted:

same, but 48

I just finished the campaign though, what’s the best use of my time now?

Get your renown all the way up to get the rewards (skill points, paragon points, etc.), start building out your gear and mats by completing tree of whispers stuff, seek out any dungeons you need to complete for aspects you want to try.

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