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Do the high fees hit you on Venmo if I use a debit card? Or just if I use a credit card?
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.random posted:Do the high fees hit you on Venmo if I use a debit card? Or just if I use a credit card? Last update is venmo works best for straight cash. In your card preferences does venmo 'know' it's a debit attached to your bank account? If so it should still count as straight cash. When I set up venmo a little bit ago it took it a few days for the test transactions to post, and I was still able to send cash through the debit card without extra fees in the interim.
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Jun 15, 2023 06:11
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Cool. Sent $10. Hope it helps.
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Jun 16, 2023 17:53
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.random posted:Do the high fees hit you on Venmo if I use a debit card? Or just if I use a credit card? Credit card is more expensive
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vortmax posted:Debit card and/or bank account are cheaper Unless its American Express doesn't cost nothing if you pay it off every month
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:Unless its American Express doesn't cost nothing if you pay it off every month There’s processing fees 
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Jun 17, 2023 02:21
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Yeah, unfortunately credit card companies charge fees like 3% or a minimum fee or something for every transaction. That's why you see "$5 minimum for credit cards" everywhere.
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Jun 17, 2023 02:22
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Yeah, unfortunately credit card companies charge fees like 3% or a minimum fee or something for every transaction. That's why you see "$5 minimum for credit cards" everywhere. but that is for the seller. Also why sales tax is the worst one. They just pushed on the buyer. It's called a sales tax for a reason, but no one argued when they told the buyer pay it for me
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:but that is for the seller. Yes, but remember this is a fund organized to pay people's expenses, not a product. So if we're trying to raise 250 bucks so someone can keep their roof, losing an extra few percentage points and bucks off of each donation is gonna hurt. Especially if we can get to the ideal of a bunch of regular small donations instead of fishing for big donations as emergencies come up. That's why it's suggested to use the options with the lowest fees.
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Coolness Averted posted:Yes, but remember this is a fund organized to pay people's expenses, not a product. So if we're trying to raise 250 bucks so someone can keep their roof, losing an extra few percentage points and bucks off of each donation is gonna hurt. Especially if we can get to the ideal of a bunch of regular small donations instead of fishing for big donations as emergencies come up. I know man. I just wanted to be angry about sales tax.
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Jun 17, 2023 23:57
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I’m dumb and the Venmo link just takes me to the iOS App Store. Is there another way to do a thing?
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.random posted:I’m dumb and the Venmo link just takes me to the iOS App Store. Is there another way to do a thing?
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Yeah, if you switch to desktop mode or open the link on PC it shouldn't do that (or have the app installed). I absolutely hate how many sites and apps nag or auto redirect if see you're on a phone.
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Martman posted:I feel stupid asking this but is that because you don't have the Venmo app on your phone? Strangely, I do  I assume it’s user error. Anyway, I’ll figure something out
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e: nm that's just because I wasn't logged in
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For whatever reason, the venmo link only works on phone. Desktop venmo doesn't let you do anything except personal stuff. We can't even access the fund's venmo from desktop outside of reporting (which isn't available on mobile lol) I hate it but thems the breaks. If the link isn't working for you on your phone, try this one: https://www.paypal.com/qrcodes/venmocs/09b9a52c-58a5-4d43-940d-547639cd7c1b?created=1687376305 Its the same link you'd get if you scanned a qr code so it should work. If not, try our username - @usgoonfund
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Got it! The link doesn’t like me but I decided to go for it anyway with the ol’ username. For what it’s worth, Venmo sending fees are 0% for bank OR debit card (https://venmo.com/resources/our-fees/), but yeah, credit cards do normally have fees. That said, a “business profile” recipient will pay 1.9%+$0.10, which I am sure is where the quoted % comes from: https://help.venmo.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500003204302-Business-Profile-Transaction-Fees- … but it also notes “It’s worth noting that Venmo users who make a payment to a business profile using a credit card will be exempt from the standard 3% Venmo fee on payments funded by credit cards.” The same fees apply for if/when you update to becoming a Charity on Venmo as well  (https://help.venmo.com/hc/en-us/articles/9750561812115-Charity-Profile-Donation-Fees). Still, using a credit card for such things seems like a Bad Idea to me, so I won’t recommend it. Just thought I’d clear that up.
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.random posted:Got it! The link doesn’t like me but I decided to go for it anyway with the ol’ username. To expand on this a bit, here's a donation we got via venmo earlier today:  so essentially, we lost $1.05 on that $50, but the person sending only had to send $50 (if via debit card). I assume if its credit card, they may charge us the full 3% - in which case you may as well use stripe since we get cash - which can be used for venmo, cashapp, or paypal - rather than just venmo. Though yeah - if you want to do cash transfer - venmo is definitely the way to do it. (and a serious thank you to whoever just donated through venmo!)
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Just wanting to hop into this thread to also say the fund helped me a ton, had a health scare, but was able to get it looked at and treated with their help.
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Thanks to Goonfund and the help of a mechanic friend my car is back to "barely driveable"! That's as good as it gets with that piece of poo poo these days. I really need to replace it, so if anyone has a few thousand dollars sitting around, let me know. (I don't need anything fancy, just something with working AC would be nice.)
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Thank you goon fund 
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What's the balance now? How we doing? Did a bunch of money come in?
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Donated a chunk, you guys will use it better than me.
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Spaghett posted:What's the balance now? How we doing? Did a bunch of money come in? Sorry for delay, very busy day for me. I posted this in the CSPAM thread over the weekend: really queer Christmas posted:Late June Financials Update: We had a discussion of what to do about our large dollar requests (we got another one in today) and the pretty universal consensus was - helping everyone with something should take priority over helping some with everything. So for now we are going to do what we can to help large requests, but we can't save people fully, sadly. But to answer your question directly, we aren't as hard up as before! Expanding to GBS and the ads have helped get us to a decent spot, but we still are in a minor deficit.
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Kicked some in, hope it helps
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really queer Christmas posted:But to answer your question directly, we aren't as hard up as before! Expanding to GBS and the ads have helped get us to a decent spot, but we still are in a minor deficit. That's what I wanted to know. Thanks fam! I'll rearrange my finances tomorrow when i get paid so i can figure out what to give. I'm glad we're making progress, tho. That's awesome! Go GBS!
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I had a thought that's probably stupid and won't work. How about a confidential of Goons with skills, by geographical area, that are willing to help out other goons who can request help by skill needed and geographic area? For example, I have some skill at most house fixing stuff, and a little car fixing stuff, it's not a big deal for me to spend a few hours fixing some poo poo for someone on my off time. By doing so I can provide a necessary service worth hundreds or thousands at basically no cost to myself. Other Goons in my area could tell you "I'm in region X and I need help with Y" you could then look and see I have a similar skill in the right region, and ask me if I'd be willing to help, if I can't because I'm too far I say no, and the request goes unfulfilled unless someone else can do it, and no one has to know this took place. For example a Goon may have a wonky outlet that sparks and smokes when they try to plug their goonputer into it, which is a safety hazard, that's a service call for an electrician with probably a $200 minimum, but I can fix it right up for $2.29 at Home Depot and an hour out of my weekend. The reason I'm asking here, is it would be best if it was an anonymous thing, to avoid doxxing and whatnot. I totally understand if it's a bridge to far in terms of liability for y'all, but I figured I'd bring it up since I've done exactly that by reaching out through PMs to people that have posted stories about struggling with issues I can fix. Elviscat fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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Elviscat posted:I had a thought that's probably stupid and won't work. It is probably not a good idea to facilitate unlicensed/unregulated services that may not be up to local code especially when dealing with things like electrics and plumbing. General handyman stuff, sure go nuts, but if something requires a professional we should probably leave it to the professionals.
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I wish you could take my Canadian monopoly money.
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A goon mutual services aid network could be done without without the structure of the nonprofit, since no money is changing hands. A decent chunk of this already happens in the LAN threads and their discord spinoffs, as well as the giving away of things.
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Crossposting the financials update from the CSPAM thread over here, for those allergic to CSPAM:quote:END OF JUNE FINANCIALS: Elviscat posted:I had a thought that's probably stupid and won't work. It's something that would have to be done informally, not affiliated with the fund itself. A business (which this officially is) is open to a massive amount of liability when people are doing home repair, home visits, or mutual aid in the form of deliveries or real life activities. If we were to organize something like that and someone gets hurt doing it, we'd be liable to cover their medical bills or get sued or even just have the state government fine us for not having the proper licensing, insurance, forms, etc. We'd also have to register in every state we do something like that, and pay/file the proper annual paperwork every year. It'd be a nightmare logistically and administratively for something a couple of goons are doing in our spare time. really queer Christmas fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jul 8, 2023 |
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I got burned, badly, by the last Goon Fund. I was lucky enough to get the COVID unemployment bonus when my company laid me off and I funneled every extra dollar into my community, helping the homeless, pitching in to bail funds during the protests, and nearly a grand helping SA users. Several hundred of the latter was just giving some shithead free stuff. You know what, though? I'd do it all again even though I am borderline destitute myself now after not setting that money aside. As said previously, the drama is laid out in full in other threads. This is not that scam, and is a legitimate charity. Once I get my feet back underneath me, I plan to contribute myself. Godbless you that contribute. And godbless those that are helped. Good luck to all of you.
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I’d you’re talking about Plinky, there was zero evidence anything ever went anywhere other than the people who needed it. Your money helped out.
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EL BROMANCE posted:I’d you’re talking about Plinky, there was zero evidence anything ever went anywhere other than the people who needed it. Your money helped out. Oh, no; I was talking about that one dipshit who pilfered from the fund repeatedly, constantly saying they were one bill away from eviction or whatever. Not even worth remembering their username. Plinky got hosed over, but he also didn't keep anything near good records of what was going where, from what I understand. Plus, as good as his intentions were, the results were borderline illegal due to charitable donation law, tax law, etc. He meant well, but this is the USA and being good is difficult in that context. Regardless, this current version is on board with everything you need to do things right. A shame that just doing good to do good doesn't fly these days. And I could be talking entirely out my rear end. All I know is that Plinky never did me wrong, it was some random jackass that got hundreds of not thousands from benevolent people.
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Being empathic on any level is always going to run the risk of being scammed, its just part of the nature of empathy towards others. However, hardening into a knot of self-defensiveness and treating everyone in need as a threat makes the world a lot worse, even though there are too many shitheads that go  at those 'dumbasses' who are willing to trust them and get off on the idea on taking all the money at the table. I have very specific emotions and thoughts towards those people that are probably not a good idea to express in the public forum.Also goonfund just helped me fix my teeth. last visit is this month and after that its just cleaning for the forseeable future.Thanks again. Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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Ronwayne posted:Being empathic on any level is always going to run the risk of being scammed, its just part of the nature of empathy towards others. However, hardening into a knot of self-defensiveness and treating everyone in need as a threat makes the world a lot worse, even though there are too many shitheads that go As someone with jacked up teeth, congratulations. As someone in general, congrat-u-loving-lations
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