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Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

smackfu posted:

Ha, 7000 people bothered to vote in the Nevada Democratic primary but picked “None of these candidates”.

Marianne Williamson destroyed.

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Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

B B posted:

Both parties seem to be taking the same strategy with respect to their respective nominees. With Genocide Joe, Kamala is waiting in the background. With Trump, we've got Nimrata waiting in the wings.



Kamala is the VP that is literally her job.

Like, it is her literal Constitutional duty.

Kchama fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Feb 25, 2024

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

B B posted:

Of course it is. With that said, I think those constitutional provisions were made for the case where the president accidentally or unexpectedly becomes incapacitated. I doubt that the framers wrote that part of the constitution for the case where one of the parties knowingly runs a candidate who is experiencing obvious cognitive decline and has a pretty high statistical chance of dying in his sleep.

This argument is not nearly as persuasive as you think it is. The Founders didn't write a lot of things into the constitution because they weren't perfectly foresighted. Especially when you consider that they immediately had to amend it to fill in a lot of stuff they hadn't thought of when they initially wrote the Constitution. As mentioned, one of those things were 'parties' to begin with. Hell our entire election system came from the 12th amendment as well as the vice president's current status in general. So maybe they didn't foresee it when they wrote the constitution, but they deliberately added it in on purpose. The vice president's job is be there in case something happens to the president. Old age was old age even in the early 1800s, and it's not like the Founding Fathers would be blind to the idea that a disease could slowly but surely strike down the president and necessitate their replacement with the Vice President who they wrote in as... being there pretty much for that moment.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

daslog posted:

1. Polls are not nearly as accurate as the people who make money off them pretend they are. They make for a great news story that's cheap to write though.

2. It doesn't matter, Trump is going to win unless something out of the blue happens. Maybe a heart attack or a dementia moment.

Polls are calibrated in a way that have been more or less accurate for the past while. But trying to make Primary polls fit some general election narrative is really pointless.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Phlegmish posted:

But we do have something equivalent to that for the Democrats, namely all the 'uncommitted' votes, apparently up to 20% in Minnesota.

It’s just as meaningful. Those people aren’t voting for Trump who is eagerly talking about personally genociding Gaza if Joe Biden’s current level of Israel support is a problem, and Minnesota is pretty safely Democratic.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

reignonyourparade posted:

I'm not saying he WILL lose Minnesota but people do not actively need to switch to the other side to effect results, they can also just not vote when they otherwise would have

If Biden still wins Minnesota, then the results are not meaningfully affected.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Bodyholes posted:

If Haley had been the nominee I am positive Biden would've stepped down and handed the baton to someone else at the convention.

I super doubt it. It would guarantee Democratic defeat.

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Kchama
Jul 25, 2007
Haley is basically the Generic Republican candidate right now, which is why she's doing better than Trump vs Biden.

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