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StumblyWumbly posted:
They will. They all voted for Nikki Haley in South carolina. The fascist right wing is perfectly happy to vote for minority candidates so long as they are confident those minority candidates will implement fascism reliably.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Nikki Haley looks white and is christian Vivek doesn't and isn't respectively. There are definitely some Republicans who won't bother voting if he's the nominee. Probably not enough to turn a reliably red state purple but maybe enough to turn a purple state blue. Nikki Haley is absolutely not a "Christian" to those people. There were several state level scandals during her runs for SC governor about various local Republicans calling her racist epithets. I knew one dude who would troll his Republican parents by saying "Nikki Haley is a Muslim" whenever they talked too much Fox News around him; it always shut them up because functionally they believed it. To MAGA types race and religion and political affiliation are all mixed up together; in the deep south you hear people casually use the word "democrat" to mean "black person", "Christian" to mean "white Republican", etc. That said, they're happy to vote for any minority so long as they're confident that minority will protect their racist fascism. See: Lindsay Graham, Tim Scott, etc.
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Seph posted:Venture capital isn't propping up Tesla or Twitter. Tesla has been profitable enough to sustain itself for years now that's mostly due to electric vehicle tax credits, though, right?
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Spiffster posted:If anything get tall can be a detriment. I’d like to fit in vehicles properly without feeling like the tall man in the bug from the Simpsons. Have to drive an SUV just to have a small amount of head and leg room. Everything seems to be "normed" to an assumed height of six feet.
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I suspect Ronnie is just a moron and reddit freaks were the most competent idiots he was able to hire.
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Dubar posted:There is a perfectly good chance that Trump becomes president, but there's basically zero chance that he or his merry band of chucklefucks suddenly become competent enough to undo the country. It doesn't take brainpower to break things. Rather the reverse.
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Nov 21, 2023 15:48
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Crazyweasel posted:
 Social media zaps all our brains. The only winning move is not to play.
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Dec 12, 2023 13:33
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I wonder how Trump would have responded. Probably something just incomprehensibly stupid.
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Dec 28, 2023 17:11
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Haley would be a return to Business Republicanism. She sat on the board of Boeing for a while after bringing a Boeing plant to SC (a right to work, anti-union state).
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Dec 28, 2023 22:32
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There's two ways to interpret iowa: either the Republicans are still all in for Trump, or the only people still Republicans are all in for Trump.
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Jan 16, 2024 16:55
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Mooseontheloose posted:I wonder if the Haley people are banking on some unenrolleds to vote Haley. That would be my guess. It never works but hey, maybe this time. I mean, poo poo, I'm genuinely tempted to cross vote for her against Trump in the SC open primary. And I hate Haley. Like, there are restaurants I never go to any more because I saw her there once and it put me off the whole place forever.
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Yeah I think the deadlines have passed to register in a lot of the state primaries.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:. desantis lost the moderates to haley months ago if not longer. The funny thing about Haley is that she's basically a capitalist psychopath's dream version of a "can we have a Republican Obama? Or a Comeptent Palin?" Candidate. She's smart, competent, brown, female, and will absolutely stare you straight in the eye and swear on a Bible that the sky has always been green and you're the one spouting crazy "blue sky" nonsense if doing so would get her five extra dollars in her pocket. Just absolutely shameless while also smart enough to not poo poo the bed regularly like Trump does. The problem is that means she's also smart enough to not be explicitly racist or sexist on a regular basis, or even to take steps like taking down the confederate flag after it's used in a race massacre. Which is not what trump.supporters want. They want a leader who will support right wing terrorism, and Haley is smart enough to know that poo poo screws up the flow of money into her pockets.
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Jan 22, 2024 20:39
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Yeah, I believe the median Trump supporter is well educated with a higher than average income. You have to be doing fairly well to have the time to watch all that fox news.
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Phlegmish posted:In other news, Haley has received 100% of the Republican primary vote in New Hampshire so far. That is to say, everyone in Dixville Notch voted for her. to steal a joke from Reddit, "Stop the Count!"
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Phlegmish posted:I've seen statistics on this in the past, but I don't remember them by heart. If I had to guess, I would say that (white) Trump voters are slightly better off compared to the general electorate, but that they are worse off than the average white voter, which is possible due to race and income being correlated in the United States. As for education, I am almost certain that they are less educated on average, if not generally, then at least (again) compared to the white electorate. With level of education (negatively correlated) being a more reliable indicator than income when it comes to voting for Trump. Could be wrong, but that's what would make the most sense given existing voting patterns. Let's not guess. In 2016: quote:s compared with most Americans, Trump’s voters are better off. The median household income of a Trump voter so far in the primaries is about $72,000, based on estimates derived from exit polls and Census Bureau data. That’s lower than the $91,000 median for Kasich voters. But it’s well above the national median household income of about $56,000. It’s also higher than the median income for Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders supporters, which is around $61,000 for both. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/ quote:Moreover, according to what is arguably the next-best measure of class, household income, Trump supporters didn’t look overwhelmingly “working class” during the primaries. To the contrary, many polls showed that Trump supporters were mostly affluent Republicans. For example, a March 2016 NBC survey that we analyzed showed that only a third of Trump supporters had household incomes at or below the national median of about $50,000. Another third made $50,000 to $100,000, and another third made $100,000 or more and that was true even when we limited the analysis to only non-Hispanic whites. If being working class means being in the bottom half of the income distribution, the vast majority of Trump supporters during the primaries were not working class. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/05/its-time-to-bust-the-myth-most-trump-voters-were-not-working-class/ Trump's base of support is not the "working class." His base of support is affluent, elderly white people. Boomers. When a Trump voter is "uneducated" they're "uneducated" because they're a boomer who had a whole career off of a high-school diploma. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Jan 23, 2024 |
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Budzilla posted:Has a primary for the challenging party been this narrow so early on? 2016 came to mind but O'Malley quit after Iowa. Trump is functionally running as the incumbent nominee.
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Jan 24, 2024 11:55
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poo poo how many of us lost a few years to mmo's much less actual addictions
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Uglycat posted:I still find it near impossible to believe that the GOP would run There is no GOP to make such a choice. There's just victims of trumps con job, which makes sense because Trump is a better con artist than the people who previously ran the GOP.
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Feb 25, 2024 05:54
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I wouldn't read too much into Haley's SC numbers. There was a *big* push among local democrats to vote Haley to spite Trump. Like, everyone I know in the local democratic party organization was posting "bet you wonder how I got in this situation" type stuff on Facebook as they displayed their "I voted" stickers. People were begging their church groups to support Haley, the works. It was a genuinely big push. That said she did win every SC County where the people outnumber the cows (joke, I haven't done the math)
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The remaining Koch brother is a business lolbertarian not a full on Maga rear end in a top hat I believe. Think gorsuch not alito.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think its funny because i think Haley would have a much easier time running against biden because she would probably siphon a bunch of conservative moderates who arnt a fans of biden but are super scared of trump. Haley would beat Biden in a slam dunk but her victory wouldn't give Republican voters what they truly crave. The Republicans think they can win and get whiskey so they aren't gonna vote for beer.
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Kchama posted:I super doubt it. It would guarantee Democratic defeat. There's this weird "Biden's going to step down and be replaced " thing going around for some reason. On the list of things that will never happen that will never happen the second most, right after Donald Trump suspends his campaign to enter a monastery.
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blossommirage posted:I honestly believe that people that argue this forget that she's a woman. Like not that they think she's not one, but it just doesn't occur to them that the party that wants to ban abortion while claiming a right to life might actually just really really hate women. Fair point but right wingers are generally fine voting for minority candidates these days so long as they're "one of the good ones" (see: Tim Scott; also Nikki Haley). Haley was quite popular in SC and defeated all right wing challengers handily. Being brown was a bigger hurdle for her than being a woman, there were several incidents of SC politicians referring to her with ethnic slurs.
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