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Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

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Princeton, N.J. — As I write this, the sun is a hazy reddish orange orb. The sky is an inky yellowish gray. The air has an acrid stench and leaves a faint metallic taste in my mouth. After 20 minutes outside, my head starts to ache, my nose burns, my eyes itch and my breathing becomes more labored. Streets are deserted. The ubiquitous lawn service companies with their machine mowers and whining gas-powered leaf blowers have disappeared, along with pedestrians, cyclists and joggers. Those who walk their dog go out briefly and then scamper back inside. N95 masks, as in the early days of the pandemic, are sold out, along with air purifiers. The international airports at Newark and Philadelphia have delayed or canceled flights.

I feel as if I am in a ghost town. Windows shut. Air conditioners on full blast. The Air Quality Index (AQI) is checked and rechecked. We are hovering around 300. The most polluted cities in the world have half that rate. Dubai (168). Delhi (164). Anything above 300 is classified as hazardous.

When will the hundreds of forest fires burning north of us in Canada — fires that have already consumed 10.9 million acres and driven 120,000 people from their homes — be extinguished? What does this portend? The wildfire season is only beginning. When will the air clear? A few days? A few weeks?

What do you tell a terminal patient seeking relief? Yes, this period of distress may pass, but it’s not over. It will get worse. There will be more highs and lows and then mostly lows, and then death. But no one wants to look that far ahead. We live moment to moment, illusion to illusion. And when the skies clear we pretend that normality will return. Except it won’t. Climate science is unequivocal. It has been for decades. The projections and graphs, the warming of the oceans and the atmosphere, the melting of polar ice sheets and glaciers, rising sea levels, droughts and wildfires and monster hurricanes are already bearing down with a terrible and mounting fury on our species, and most other species, because of the hubris and folly of the human race.

The worse it gets the more we retreat into fantasy. The law will solve it. The market will solve it. Technology will solve it. We will adapt. Or, for those who find solace in denial of a reality-based belief system, the climate crisis does not exist. The earth has always been like this. And besides, Jesus will save us. Those who warn of the looming mass extinction are dismissed as hysterics, Cassandras, pessimists. It can’t be that catastrophic.

At the inception of every war I covered, most people were unable to cope with the nightmare that was about to engulf them. Signs of disintegration surrounded them. Shootings. Kidnappings. The bifurcation of polarized extremes into antagonistic armed groups or militias. Hate speech. Political paralysis. Apocalyptic rhetoric. The breakdown of social services. Food shortages. Circumscribed daily existence. But the fragility of society is too emotionally fraught for most of us to accept. We endow the institutions and structures around us with an eternal permanence.

“Things whose existence is not morally comprehensible cannot exist,” Primo Levi, who survived the Auschwitz concentration camp, observed.

I would return at night to Pristina in Kosovo after having been stopped by Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) rebels a few miles outside the capital. But when I described my experiences to my Kosovar Albanian friends — highly educated and multilingual — they dismissed them. “Those are Serbs dressed up like rebels to justify Serb repression,” they answered. They did not grasp they were at war until Serb paramilitary forces rounded them up at gunpoint, herded them into boxcars and shipped them off to Macedonia.

Complex civilizations eventually destroy themselves. Joseph Tainter in “The Collapse of Complex Societies,” Charles L. Redman in “Human Impact on Ancient Environments,” Jared Diamond in “Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed” and Ronald Wright in “A Short History of Progress,” detail the familiar patterns that lead to catastrophic collapse. We are no different, although this time we will all go down together. The entire planet. Those in the Global South who are least responsible for the climate emergency, will suffer first. They are already fighting existential battles to survive. Our turn will come. We in the Global North may hold out for a bit longer, but only a bit. The billionaire class is preparing its escape. The worse it gets, the stronger will be our temptation to deny the reality facing us, to lash out at climate refugees, which is already happening in Europe and along our border with Mexico, as if they are the problem.

Wright, who calls industrial society “a suicide machine,” writes:

quote:

Civilization is an experiment, a very recent way of life in the human career, and it has a habit of walking into what I am calling progress traps. A small village on good land beside a river is a good idea; but when the village grows into a city and paves over the good land, it becomes a bad idea. While prevention might have been easy, a cure may be impossible: a city isn’t easily moved. This human inability to foresee — or to watch out for — long-range consequences may be inherent to our kind, shaped by the millions of years when we lived from hand to mouth by hunting and gathering. It may also be little more than a mix of inertia, greed, and foolishness encouraged by the shape of the social pyramid. The concentration of power at the top of large-scale societies gives the elite a vested interest in the status quo; they continue to prosper in darkening times long after the environment and general populace begin to suffer.

We will frantically construct climate fortresses, like the great walled cities at the end of the Bronze Age before its societal collapse, a collapse so severe that not only did these cities fall into ruin, but writing itself in many places disappeared. Maybe a few of our species will linger on for a while. Or maybe rats will take over the planet and evolve into some new life form. One thing is certain. The planet will survive. It has experienced mass extinctions before. This one is unique only because our species engineered it. Intelligent life is not so intelligent. Maybe this is why, with all those billions of planets, we have not discovered an evolved species. Maybe evolution has built within it its own death sentence.

I accept this intellectually. I don’t accept it emotionally any more than I accept my own death. Yes, I know our species is almost certainly doomed — but notice, I say almost. Yes, I know I am mortal. Most of my life has already been lived. But death is hard to digest until the final moments of existence, and even then, many cannot face it. We are composed of the rational and the irrational. In moments of extreme distress we embrace magical thinking. We become the easy prey of con-artists, cult leaders, charlatans and demagogues who tell us what we want to hear.

Disintegrating societies are susceptible to crisis cults that promise a return to a golden age. The Christian Right has many of the characteristics of a crisis cult. Native Americans, ravaged by genocide, the slaughter of the buffalo herds, the theft of their land and incarcerated in prisoner-of-war camps, clung desperately to the Ghost Dance. The Ghost Dance promised to drive away the white invaders and resurrect the warriors and buffalo herds. Instead, followers were mowed down by the U.S. Army with Hotchkiss MI875 mountain guns.

We must do everything in our power to halt carbon emissions. We must face the truth that the ruling corporate elites in the industrialized world will never extract us from fossil fuels. Only if these corporatists are overthrown — as proposed by groups such as Extinction Rebellion — and radical and immediate measures are taken to end the consumption of fossil fuel, as well as curtail the animal agriculture industry, will we be able to mitigate some of the worst effects of ecocide. But I don’t see this as likely, especially given the sophisticated forms of control and surveillance the global oligarchs have at their disposal.

The awful truth is that even if we halt all carbon emissions today there is so much warming locked into the oceans deep muddy floor and the atmosphere, that feedback loops will ensure climate catastrophe. Summer Arctic sea ice, which reflects 90 percent of solar radiation that comes into contact with it, will disappear. The Earth’s surface will absorb more radiation. The greenhouse effect will be amplified. Global warming will accelerate, melting the Siberian permafrost and disintegrating the Greenland ice sheet.

Melting ice in Greenland and Antarctica “has increased fivefold since the 1990s, and now accounts for a quarter of sea-level rise,” according to a recent report funded by NASA and the European Space Agency. Continued sea level rise, the rate of which has doubled over three decades according to the World Meteorological Organization, is inevitable. Tropical rainforests will burn. Boreal forests will move northward. These and other feedback loops are already built into the ecosystem. We cannot stop them. Climate chaos, including elevated temperatures, will last for centuries.

The hardest existential crisis we face is to at once accept this bleak reality and resist. Resistance cannot be carried out because it will succeed, but because it is a moral imperative, especially for those of us who have children. We may fail, but if we do not fight against the forces that are orchestrating our mass extinction, we become part of the apparatus of death.

chris is right

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Lib and let die posted:

chris is right

problem is half the potential allies have decided it's too late and gone full nihilist which is very convenient for the powers that be

Woke Mind Virus
Aug 22, 2005

He's a good writer

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Running out of guys huh

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

my mans middle name is lynn

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

there was a hedges thread that was executed

the commonality of killing threads about these people who share similar anti-war stances is left as an exercise to the reader

speng31b
May 8, 2010

comedyblissoption posted:

there was a hedges thread that was executed

the commonality of killing threads about these people who share similar anti-war stances is left as an exercise to the reader

there was a hedges thread before? don't remember that. got a link?

speng31b
May 8, 2010

lobster shirt posted:

my mans middle name is lynn

how does that make you feel?

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

yeah there was a cool thread about hedges that got killed

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3951800

an tiny group of american left-liberal pundits that were the only anti-russiagaters and now anti-war advocates basically inhabit the same social media circle and humorously continue to elicit hysterical reactions

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

hedges counts among one of the few american outlets that forded the gargantuan task of picking up a phone and calling seymour hersh for an interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cOWwd6zShM

speng31b
May 8, 2010

comedyblissoption posted:

yeah there was a cool thread about hedges that got killed

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3951800

an tiny group of american left-liberal pundits that were the only anti-russiagaters and now anti-war advocates basically inhabit the same social media circle and humorously continue to elicit hysterical reactions

lmao you necrod a 2 year stale chris hedges thread and then it got gassed

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

well, there was another thread that vacuumed up all the discussion about chris hedges and had people posting his articles and commentary there

i just wanted somewhere to discuss chris hedges since he just did an interview about the war

turns out youtube wasnt the only place hedges got censored...

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

He's a bottom of the barrel character and doesn't seem to be garnering much appreciation. Gas

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
he's big into xtinction rebellion

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

I appreciate chris hedges

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

he's big into xtinction rebellion

he's wrong b/c he's not a marxist and so he looks to dumb solutions but otherwise he's right

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

He's fine. But he's boring so who cares! I'd beat his old rear end in a fight any day

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

Gleichheit soll gedeihen
he's a stupid dipshit

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Cuttlefush posted:

he's a stupid dipshit

let's fight. why?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zC6EdbZN8

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2SaM8RJ30c&t=229s

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Brain Candy posted:

he's wrong b/c he's not a marxist and so he looks to dumb solutions but otherwise he's right

yep

Quotey
Aug 16, 2006

We went out for lunch and then we stopped for some bubble tea.
Fear not the man who has wrote five hundred different articles. Instead, fear Chris Hedges, who has wrote one article five hundred times.

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

this the new glenn thread? anyway

https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status/1670450219555733504?s=46&t=YjAdrC5z2HpTKJK1s-6pYw

Taylor is right

Just a Moron
Nov 11, 2021

I like Chris :)

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
hedges' morbid pessimism is the opposite of the intense optimism of the post-1991 political establishment. it's a product of a particular historical era but both outlooks are essentially irrational and more compatible with reactionary politics in the end...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_de_si%C3%A8cle

https://twitter.com/SIRATYST/status/1635246486694023170

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

a really disingenuous read of a good article by hedges from the weird sex website

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
hedges writes:

quote:

The Jan. 6 protestors were not the first to occupy Congressional offices. Young environmental activists from the Sunrise Movement, anti-war activists from Code Pink and even congressional staffers have engaged in numerous occupations of congressional offices and interrupted congressional hearings. What will happen to groups such as Code Pink if they occupy congressional offices with Republicans in control of the White House, the Congress and the courts? Will they be held for years in pretrial detention? Will they be given lengthy prison terms based on dubious interpretations of the law? Will they be considered domestic terrorists? Will protests and civil disobedience become impossible?
the answer to all of those questions is yes

all the good reason to lock 'em up!

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

hedges' morbid pessimism is the opposite of the intense optimism of the post-1991 political establishment. it's a product of a particular historical era but both outlooks are essentially irrational and more compatible with reactionary politics in the end...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_de_si%C3%A8cle

https://twitter.com/SIRATYST/status/1635246486694023170

Unlike the liberals, who celebrate bipartisanship with the fascists

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

quote:

High Court Judge Jonathan Swift — who previously worked for a variety of British government agencies as a barrister and said his favorite clients are “security and intelligence agencies” — rejected two applications by Julian Assange’s lawyers to appeal his extradition last week. The extradition order was signed last June by Home Secretary Priti Patel. Julian’s legal team have filed a final application for appeal, the last option available in the British courts. If accepted, the case could proceed to a public hearing in front of two new High Court judges. If rejected, Julian could be immediately extradited to the United States where he will stand trial for 18 counts of violating the Espionage Act, charges that could see him receive a 175-year sentence, as early as this week.

The only chance to block an extradition, if the final appeal is rejected, as I expect it will be, would come from the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR). The parliamentary arm of the Council of Europe, which created the ECtHR, along with their Commissioner for Human Rights, oppose Julian’s “detention, extradition and prosecution” because it represents “a dangerous precedent for journalists.” It is unclear if the British government would abide by the court’s decision — even though it is obligated to do so — if it ruled against extradition, or if the U.K. would extradite Julian before an appeal to the European court can be heard. Julian, once shipped to the U.S., would be put on trial in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia where most espionage cases have been won by the U.S. government.

Judge Vanessa Baraitser at Westminster Magistrates’ Court refused to authorize the U.S. government's extradition request in Jan. 2021 because of the severity of the conditions Julian would endure in the U.S. prison system.

“Faced with the conditions of near total isolation without the protective factors which limited his risk at [Her Majesty’s Prison] Belmarsh, I am satisfied the procedures described by the U.S. will not prevent Mr. Assange from finding a way to commit suicide,” said Baraitser when handing down her 132-page ruling, “and for this reason I have decided extradition would be oppressive by reason of mental harm and I order his discharge.”

Baraitser’s decision was overturned after an appeal by U.S. authorities. The High Court accepted the conclusions of the lower court about increased risk of suicide and inhumane prison conditions. But it also accepted four assurances in U.S. Diplomatic Note no. 74, given to the court in Feb. 2021, which promised Julian would be well treated. The U.S. government claimed that its assurances “entirely answer the concerns which caused the judge [in the lower court] to discharge Mr. Assange.” The “assurances” state that Julian will not be subject to Special Administrative Measures (SAMs). They promise that Julian, an Australian citizen, can serve his sentence in Australia if the Australian government requests his extradition. They promise he will receive adequate clinical and psychological care. They promise that, pre-trial and post-trial, Julian will not be held in the Administrative Maximum Facility (ADX) in Florence, Colorado. No one is held pre-trial in ADX Florence. But it sounds reassuring. ADX Florence is not the only supermax prison in the U.S. Julian can be placed in one of our other Guantanamo-like facilities in a Communications Management Unit (CMU). CMUs are highly restrictive units that replicate the near total isolation imposed by SAMs.

None of these “assurances” are worth the paper they are written on. All come with escape clauses. None are legally binding. Should Julian do “something subsequent to the offering of these assurances that meets the tests for the imposition of SAMs or designation to ADX” he will, the court conceded, be subject to these harsher forms of control.

If Australia does not request a transfer it “cannot be a cause for criticism of the USA, or a reason for regarding the assurances as inadequate to meet the judge's concerns,” the ruling read. And even if that were not the case, it would take Julian 10 to 15 years to appeal his sentence up to the U.S. Supreme Court, which would be more than enough time to destroy him psychologically and physically.

No doubt the plane waiting to take Julian to the U.S. will be well stocked with blindfolds, sedatives, shackles, enemas, diapers and jumpsuits used to facilitate “extraordinary renditions” conducted by the CIA.

The extradition of Julian will be the next step in the slow-motion execution of the publisher and founder of WikiLeaks and one of the most important journalists of our generation. It will ensure that Julian spends the rest of his life in a U.S. prison. It will create legal precedents that will criminalize any investigation into the inner workings of power, even by citizens from another country. It will be a body blow to our anemic democracy, which is rapidly metamorphosing into corporate totalitarianism.

I am as stunned by this full frontal assault on journalism as I am by the lack of public outrage, especially by the media. The very belated call from The New York Times, The Guardian, Le Monde, Der Spiegel and El País — all of whom published material provided by WikiLeaks — to drop the extradition charges is too little too late. All of the public protests I have attended in defense of Julian in the U.S. are sparsely attended. Our passivity makes us complicit in our own enslavement.

Julian’s case, from the start, has been a judicial farce.

Former Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno terminated Julian’s rights of asylum as a political refugee, in violation of international law. He then authorized London Metropolitan Police to enter the Ecuadorian Embassy — diplomatically sanctioned sovereign territory — to arrest a naturalized citizen of Ecuador. Moreno’s government, which revoked Julian’s citizenship, was granted a large loan by the International Monetary Fund for its assistance. Donald Trump, by demanding Julian’s extradition under the Espionage Act, criminalized journalism, in much the same way Woodrow Wilson did when he shut down socialist publications such as The Masses.

The hearings, some of which I attended in London and others of which I sat through online, mocked basic legal protocols. They included the decision to ignore the CIA’s surveillance and recording of meetings between Julian and his attorneys during his time as a political refugee in the embassy, eviscerating attorney-client-privilege. This alone should have seen the case thrown out of court. They included validating the decision to charge Julian, although he is not a U.S. citizen, under the Espionage Act. They included Kafkaesque contortions to convince the courts that Julian is not a journalist. They ignored Article 4 of the U.K.-U.S. extradition treaty that prohibits extradition for political offenses. I watched as the prosecutor James Lewis, representing the U.S., gave legal directives to Judge Baraitser, who promptly adopted them as her legal decision.

The judicial lynching of Julian has far more in common with the dark days of Lubyanka than the ideals of British jurisprudence.

The debate over arcane legal nuances distracts us from the fact that Julian has not committed a crime in Britain, other than an old charge of breaching bail conditions when he sought asylum in the Ecuadorian Embassy. Normally this would entail a fine. He was instead sentenced to a year in Belmarsh prison and has been held there since April 2019.

The decision to seek Julian’s extradition, contemplated by Barack Obama’s administration, was pursued by the Trump administration following WikiLeaks’ publication of the documents known as Vault 7, which exposed the CIA’s cyberwarfare programs designed to monitor and take control of cars, smart TVs, web browsers and the operating systems of most smart phones, as well as Microsoft Windows, MacOS and Linux.

Julian, as I noted in a column filed from London last year, is targeted because of the Iraq War Logs, released in Oct. 2010, which document numerous U.S. war crimes, including images seen in the Collateral Murder video, of the gunning down of two Reuters journalists and 10 other civilians and severely injuring two children.

He is targeted because he made public the killing of nearly 700 civilians who had approached too closely to U.S. convoys and checkpoints, including pregnant women, the blind and deaf, and at least 30 children

He is targeted because he exposed more than 15,000 unreported deaths of Iraqi civilians and the torture and abuse of some 800 men and boys, aged between 14 to 89, at Guantánamo Bay detention camp.

He is targeted because he showed us that Hillary Clinton in 2009 ordered U.S. diplomats to spy on U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and other U.N. representatives from China, France, Russia, and the U.K., spying that included obtaining DNA, iris scans, fingerprints, and personal passwords, all part of the long pattern of illegal surveillance that included eavesdropping on U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan in the weeks before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

He is targeted because he exposed that Obama, Hillary Clinton and the CIA backed the June 2009 military coup in Honduras that overthrew the democratically-elected president Manuel Zelaya, replacing him with a murderous and corrupt military regime.

He is targeted because he released documents that revealed the United States secretly launched missile, bomb and drone attacks on Yemen, killing scores of civilians.

He is targeted because he made public the off-the-record talks Hillary Clinton gave to Goldman Sachs, talks for which she was paid $657,000, a sum so large it can only be considered a bribe, as well as her private assurances to Wall Street that she would do their bidding while promising the public financial regulation and reform.

For revealing these truths alone he is guilty.

The U.S. court system is even more draconian than the British court system. It can use SAMs, anti-terrorism laws and the Espionage Act to block Julian from speaking to the public, being released on bail, or seeing the “secret” evidence used to convict him.

The CIA was created to carry out assassinations, coups, torture, kidnapping, blackmail, character assassination and illegal spying. It has targeted U.S. citizens, in violation of its charter. These activities were exposed in 1975 by the Church Committee hearings in the Senate and the Pike Committee hearings in the House.

Working with UC Global, the Spanish security firm in the embassy, the CIA put Julian under 24-hour video and digital surveillance. It discussed kidnapping and assassinating him while he was in the embassy, which included plans of a shoot-out on the streets with involvement by London Metropolitan Police. The U.S. allocates a secret black budget of $52 billion a year to hide multiple types of clandestine projects carried out by the National Security Agency, the CIA, and other intelligence agencies, usually beyond the scrutiny of Congress. All these clandestine activities, especially after the attacks of 9/11, have massively expanded.

Senator Frank Church, after examining the heavily redacted CIA documents released to his committee, defined the CIA’s covert activity as “a semantic disguise for murder, coercion, blackmail, bribery, the spreading of lies.”

The CIA and intelligence agencies, along with the military, all of which operate without effective Congressional oversight, are the engines behind Julian’s extradition. Julian inflicted, by exposing their crimes and lies, a grievous wound. They demand vengeance. The control these forces seek abroad is the control they seek at home.

Julian may soon be imprisoned for life in the U.S. for journalism, but he won’t be the only one.

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

Yeah. It is very grim. Don't know what else to say.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/AKIRASHINMEI02/status/1670058288413831168?cxt=HHwWgMDTscfKnq0uAAAA

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

hedges' morbid pessimism is the opposite of the intense optimism of the post-1991 political establishment. it's a product of a particular historical era but both outlooks are essentially irrational and more compatible with reactionary politics in the end...

in a sense it's true, in that what else is there to do from inside the political framing other than to enact ritual? if hedges wants to summon back true democracy from the past, it's a foolish endevor, because it never existed, and the conditions that made it more real are gone. and since we're talking about the a bourgeois parlamentary democracy, there is only one tendency to change, ever to the right. because there's a fundamental compatibility will juicing every bond and a will to self-destruction

in that sense he must be a reactionary

and? if you read most political authors they are for the destruction of all human life in nuclear fire or boiling the planet or explicit lesser brutality. this is what you get within the politcal framing. within the framing he's better than most people for rejecting that. he rejects it will moralism and ritual so futily, but so what?

no what's happening here is social democrats love their incrementalism and their place in things as a big loving tick slurping up profits from the rest of the world and so glue the right onto everyone that says mean things about it, so 'reactionary'. like with 'authoritarian' to mark stalism the same as nazism.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

hedges writes:

the answer to all of those questions is yes

all the good reason to lock 'em up!
further normalizing cops shooting and killing unarmed women protestors is going to be bad!

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

Who did you piss off to get that avatar??

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Greg Legg posted:

Who did you piss off to get that avatar??

Pics thread lmao

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

comedyblissoption posted:

further normalizing cops shooting and killing unarmed women protestors is going to be bad!

no it's obv. good because it's in the defense of the state that acts in my interest

reactionary! facist! meany!

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

i heard hedges say he rejects marxism because it’s not compatible with human nature, which is why he thinks the only path to positive change is to appeal to morality

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

Gleichheit soll gedeihen

fart simpson posted:

i heard hedges say he rejects marxism because it’s not compatible with human nature, which is why he thinks the only path to positive change is to appeal to morality

he's exactly as dumb as his face looks

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

fart simpson posted:

i heard hedges say he rejects marxism because it’s not compatible with human nature, which is why he thinks the only path to positive change is to appeal to morality

hes right

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