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Lockback posted:Eh,. max salaries mean the best players aren't paid like a stack-rank would be. 25th highest salary (Jrue Holoday) is 33m and Beal is at 43 (at 4th). If you're looking to add a player like Beal you probably don't care. Plus after the next two off seasons his salary ranking won't be as high as guys like Brown and Tatum get their maxes.
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opposable thumbs.db posted:Isn't Ayton Bahamian anyway? Yeah I thought he was getting nationalized but my information came from a "He should do that to play in the 2024 olympics" so yeah, he's not a candidate anyway.
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Mean Baby posted:Does Beal make sense next to Brunson? He'd be great on the Knicks, honestly. I don't see how they'd get him though.
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Lockback posted:He'd be great on the Knicks, honestly. I don't see how they'd get him though. The Knicks, and Memphis would probably be pretty solid fits for him.
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Also trading for him wouldn't be hard. Like it feels like the Bulls would be a useful team in any Beal trade, because they have 20 million of a player who can be waived with a career ending injury exception. Finding ways to make the money work isn't that hard, if the Knicks/Grizzles for some reason really wanted him.
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Dexo posted:Also trading for him wouldn't be hard. The bulls are not going to do anything, they'll gun for the 9 seed for 1-2 more seasons then fruitlessly tank for 5 years in one of the two years they have a draft pick. Also Karnisovas and Eversley can't draft for poo poo, Terry is a bust and Williams will have the Bulls drafted player trajectory of looking incredible the second he is on another team.
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Sounds like Shams is pushing the Miami angle. https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1669029381493202961 I'd assume it'd be around Lowry. Not a bad idea.
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R.D. Mangles posted:The bulls are not going to do anything, they'll gun for the 9 seed for 1-2 more seasons then fruitlessly tank for 5 years in one of the two years they have a draft pick. Also Karnisovas and Eversley can't draft for poo poo, Terry is a bust and Williams will have the Bulls drafted player trajectory of looking incredible the second he is on another team. I mean gunning for the 10-7 seed would be what facilitating this trade is doing. They'd get like Brandon Clark or Kennard as salary and go on being mediocre.
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Lockback posted:He'd be great on the Knicks, honestly. I don't see how they'd get him though. It looks like Fournier, Barrett, and Toppin get the salaries to match. The Knicks also have 4 firsts next year, including the Wizards own pick, and some other young talent. I don’t think the Knicks would need to give up all 4, just to be clear.
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Rick posted:Heat culture and Bradley Beal would be the funniest collision. Micheal Beasley and Hassan Whiteside were both funnier
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Mean Baby posted:It looks like Fournier, Barrett, and Toppin get the salaries to match. The Knicks also have 4 firsts next year, including the Wizards own pick, and some other young talent. I don’t think the Knicks would need to give up all 4, just to be clear. Thats the framework I had in mind for NY if they wanted Beal. I have no idea what Beal's value is though considering how disastrous being above the 2nd apron is according to some. He has a 57m player option in 2026-27. Would you even need to throw in picks? Probably, right?
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the wizards don't do the trade without getting a bunch of picks. The bunch of picks is why you trade Beal.
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Lockback posted:Sounds like Shams is pushing the Miami angle. nah pat this ain't it cmon man
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Beal would be a good pickup for Miami assuming Beal can stay healthy, which is admittedly a hell of an assumption. If Spo can have a decent defense with Duncan Robinson or Tyler Herro out there, Beal should be fine. Having someone with some self creation, and creation for others out there other than Jimmy would be pretty good. I guess it depends on what the Heat have to give up.
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verbal enema posted:Can a horse play basketball? There’s no rule that says a horse can’t play basketball
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Dexo posted:the wizards don't do the trade without getting a bunch of picks. The bunch of picks is why you trade Beal. I dunno, I could see this being a situation where the Wizards recognize they’re on an aimless trajectory and respect Beal enough (slash recognize the burden posed by his salary and no-trade clause) to let him basically pick his destination even if it means getting back a pretty modest return
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oh right lmao, I forgot he had a NTC loving lmaooooo
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Dexo posted:Beal would be a good pickup for Miami assuming Beal can stay healthy, which is admittedly a hell of an assumption. I'm not sure the Heat have enough to offer the Wizards to entice them unless they're devoted to blowing it up. It'd have to be something like Lowry, Duncan Robinson, and some combination of their available firsts (2023., 2027, ...2029?).
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rare Magic card l00k posted:I'm not sure the Heat have enough to offer the Wizards to entice them unless they're devoted to blowing it up. The league is weird, people might be high on Herro. Also yeah if he has a NTC, he has a level of control over where he goes that is strong.
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R.D. Mangles posted:time for some Bulls Chat I don't know why any team has worse odds than they do. this next season feels absolutely hopeless. At least the Spurs can imagine that Wemby is Tim Duncan + Lebron combined and wins a title instantly
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Boosh! posted:Thats the framework I had in mind for NY if they wanted Beal. I have no idea what Beal's value is though considering how disastrous being above the 2nd apron is according to some. He has a 57m player option in 2026-27. Would you even need to throw in picks? Probably, right? By 26-27 that salary won’t be as bad with the new media deal. This might sound like Marx talking about linen, but let’s peg Beal’s value at 4 firsts and the rough equivalent for each player. Barrett = 1 first Toppin = 1 first Fournier = - 1 first Wizards 2024 = 1 first (you could argue 2) Another 2024 = 1 first A 2026 first (thought to be a strong draft) = 1 first I think that is roughly good value. However, Beal has a no trade clause, so the Wizards can’t exactly start a bidding war.
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Dexo posted:The league is weird, people might be high on Herro. Also yeah if he has a NTC, he has a level of control over where he goes that is strong. I'm assuming any Heat trade this offseason, barring like Lilliard becoming available and gettable for Miami(?), will be around Lowry rather than Herro. I could be wrong about that.
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Why would the warriors be trying to get younger https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1669016481445683209?s=20
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trevorreznik posted:I don't know why any team has worse odds than they do. this next season feels absolutely hopeless. At least the Spurs can imagine that Wemby is Tim Duncan + Lebron combined and wins a title instantly The Bulls are in a weird place. Like they are probably roughly going to be a play-in team, which is seemingly what ownership wants. I'm mostly just mad they aren't fun to watch. Like When Lonzo was playing even though I don't think their ceiling was a championship, that team was fun to watch. The only path for stepping up a tier, is Patrick Williams to finally realize he should be more aggressive, and to be giving the keys to run more of the offense through him.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Why would the warriors be trying to get younger They have one of the best players in the league, and if they aren't gonna blow it up, you should extremely be trading the kids for vets to try and make another run.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:I'm assuming any Heat trade this offseason, barring like Lilliard becoming available and gettable for Miami(?), will be around Lowry rather than Herro. I could be wrong about that. im confused, are you sayin the heat are going to package lowry with a desirable asset to get off his contract? like who wants to add a mostly cooked bench pg making 30 million
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Dexo posted:They have one of the best players in the league, and if they aren't gonna blow it up, you should extremely be trading the kids for vets to try and make another run.
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yeah Lowry is just there for salary purporses. the Wizards would probably buy him out, and let him go to another team. Bulls Should reunite Lowry and Derozan and at ride friendship ball to the top(the 10th seed) Punkin Spunkin posted:But they're potentially trading a young prospect for a younger one? Or do you just mean they plan to trade the pick for a vet? Bleh, I misread that tweet. I'm an idiot.
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Ammanas posted:im confused, are you sayin the heat are going to package lowry with a desirable asset to get off his contract? like who wants to add a mostly cooked bench pg making 30 million His contract runs out after next year, iirc, so the same reason most teams would want an expiring. Edit: Although a buyout would work too. It's mostly because I think they'll have to match salaries?
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Mean Baby posted:By 26-27 that salary won’t be as bad with the new media deal. Well, that's your first problem. Gobert was traded for 4, (5?!)and that now increasingly looks like a huge overpay. Beal shouldn't get similar value.
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Dexo posted:The Bulls are in a weird place. Like they are probably roughly going to be a play-in team, which is seemingly what ownership wants. I've given up on Patrick Williams, Cody White and everyone else they've drafted. I guess they can point to the Heat as why all you need to do is make the play-in.
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Veryslightlymad posted:Well, that's your first problem. Gobert was traded for 4, (5?!)and that now increasingly looks like a huge overpay. Beal shouldn't get similar value. Gobert was traded for more than that. If you broke it down the same way it would be like 6 firsts. They got… Kessler (1 first) 4 firsts 1 pick swap Vanderbilt (1 first?) Patrick Beasley, Malik Beasley, and Bolmaro. That’s probably a wash.
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quote:[Stein]There is no disputing New Orleans’ strong interest in Henderson. The Pelicans want more of a traditional playmaker than they’ve had and are undeniably drawn to the explosive Henderson. I heard this week from one well-placed observer who is convinced that the Pelicans would indeed consider dealing Williamson away if it meant they could draft Henderson, pointing to a rising level of exasperation within the organization regarding Williamson's ongoing availability issues and overall approach. My read, at this juncture, is that the Pelicans are less inclined to consider trading Brandon Ingram in the same scenario. mods change my name to well placed observer
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As a condition of a trade to the Blazers, Zion must agree he is only allowed to visit vegan strip clubs.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Why would the warriors be trying to get younger life comes at you fast https://twitter.com/CjHolmes22/status/1623775622492471296
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WhyteRyce posted:mods change my name to well placed observer
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trevorreznik posted:I've given up on Patrick Williams, Cody White and everyone else they've drafted. I guess they can point to the Heat as why all you need to do is make the play-in. Coby White seemingly put it together this year, he was finally able to impact the game and play solid when he wasn't shooting lights out.
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