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Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005

McSpanky posted:

Abandon modernity, return to personally-curated website lists

All of the most interesting and coolest recommendations have come from a couple human-curated email newsletters that have returned recently, like the Verge's "Installer"; it's great

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Human curation or “editing” is the work that needs done to create usable media and that costs money* so we don t get that

*a specific form of money that capitalists hate

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!

DemihumanResources posted:

Is this included with amazon prime or are you talking about AWS?

Unlimited* full res photo storage including RAW files is included with Prime. It's too slow and clunky to use day to day but for cloud backup it's great.

* the T&C's include that you can't use it for business use so presumably if you are storing 200TB of wedding photos there they will eventually shut you down

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!
The building where I go to work in Washington had its Google Maps tag "claimed" by an electrician in Texas who changed all of its data and moved it to Houston. My alarm woke me up this morning by informing me that there is typical traffic on my drive to work and that the drive will take approximately 36 hours.

Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!




DemihumanResources posted:

Also, for as lovely as Amazon is, I went to my local Michaels to get some art supplies thinking "hey I'll do my OWN same day :smugdog:" and literally everything like pencils and sketch pads were more expensive. Same brand. Same item number. All $2 more. IF THEY EVEN loving HAD THEM IN STOCK. I left mondo depressed

Speaking of things that got shittier ... AC Moore was always the better crafting store. Pissed me off a right much when Michael's bought them and then shut them all down. I used to hit AC Moore for stuff all the time. I don't go to Michael's at all.

gently caress Hobby Lobby too, but that goes without saying.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Cerekk posted:

The building where I go to work in Washington had its Google Maps tag "claimed" by an electrician in Texas who changed all of its data and moved it to Houston. My alarm woke me up this morning by informing me that there is typical traffic on my drive to work and that the drive will take approximately 36 hours.

Ask your boss for an out of state stipend.

Houle
Oct 21, 2010
Michaels and a few other stores purposely price their items super high because those who are regular shoppers always just show the 50% off coupon on the website - or soon retailer app.


Either a) you are trained to visit the website or interact with the app for metrics or;
B ) you see a coupon and don't know the con and think wow what a deal and limited time too and go there to buy
C) you don't know about the coupon and buy something at the lovely price because the atmosphere or some poo poo makes it seem like the products are higher quality than Walmart.

DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already

Zamboni Rodeo posted:

gently caress Hobby Lobby too, but that goes without saying.

Nah, you should say it every time you get the chance

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

McSpanky posted:

Abandon modernity, return to personally-curated website lists

Joe McMillan was on to something with Comet..

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
I wonder how much longer until hardware becomes locked at a subscription. Buy that new microwave and washing machine for only $30 a month! Now everyone can own appliances, sure you'll spend more in the long run, but in the short term it's so affordable! Once you subscription lapses the machine stops working and bills you a huge cancellation fee and you also have to pay for the cost of courier to come pick it up!

You all know it's gonna happen eventually, we keep paying for subscriptions, even when they raise prices and make them worse companies continue to report growth and record profits. You know every industry wants to get a piece of the action.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Ikea already offers a subscription for their furniture. You can already "buy" phones on a subscription basis. The things you mentioned probably already exist, somewhere

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

steinrokkan posted:

Ikea already offers a subscription for their furniture. You can already "buy" phones on a subscription basis. The things you mentioned probably already exist, somewhere
IKEA offered a subscription service for their furniture…? I clearly missed something I think?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Well I guess they call it rental, but it's the same thing

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/22/why-you-might-be-renting-not-buying-your-next-couch.html

I don't know if they gave up or if they still offer that option in some countries

But essentially it's a way to make people pay more for furniture with a shorter life span (there's no way they lease your beat-up cardboard closet to anybody else once you turn it back in after five years, it's straight to the landfill)

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
That’s from 2022 and I’ve yet to see anything like that here. I have the secondhand IKEA in my town and it owns bones, they’re really big on reusing the furniture? I’ve gotten some steals from there and the kinda-mall it’s located in.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Original_Z posted:

I wonder how much longer until hardware becomes locked at a subscription. Buy that new microwave and washing machine for only $30 a month! Now everyone can own appliances, sure you'll spend more in the long run, but in the short term it's so affordable! Once you subscription lapses the machine stops working and bills you a huge cancellation fee and you also have to pay for the cost of courier to come pick it up!

You all know it's gonna happen eventually, we keep paying for subscriptions, even when they raise prices and make them worse companies continue to report growth and record profits. You know every industry wants to get a piece of the action.

It's called rent-to-own and it's been around for decades.

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

It's called rent-to-own and it's been around for decades.

Yes, but in the future the 'own' part will be taken away! Pay forever or they'll disable the functionality or take it away at your expense!

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Original_Z posted:

I wonder how much longer until hardware becomes locked at a subscription. Buy that new microwave and washing machine for only $30 a month! Now everyone can own appliances, sure you'll spend more in the long run, but in the short term it's so affordable! Once you subscription lapses the machine stops working and bills you a huge cancellation fee and you also have to pay for the cost of courier to come pick it up!

They just do this by locking 90% of the features behind a subscription and making it not worth running without paying.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Gotta throw a quarter into the bed coin box every 4 hours or anti-piracy spikes come out of the mattress

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


Original_Z posted:

Yes, but in the future the 'own' part will be taken away! Pay forever or they'll disable the functionality or take it away at your expense!

You already can't own rent-to-own stuff, the whole model is that you pay forever or it gets repossessed.

Dip Viscous fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Apr 18, 2024

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

dreezy posted:

if you still pay for amazon prime post your pathetic rationalizations here so we can laugh at you for being a big stupid sucker

i thinke most people do it for the free shipping

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Original_Z posted:

Once you subscription lapses the machine stops working and bills you a huge cancellation fee and you also have to pay for the cost of courier to come pick it up!

This appliance is damaged and needs to be replaced, here's a bill for the full cost of replacement plus lost earning potential.

Time_pants
Jun 25, 2012

Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

teen witch posted:

That’s from 2022 and I’ve yet to see anything like that here. I have the secondhand IKEA in my town and it owns bones, they’re really big on reusing the furniture? I’ve gotten some steals from there and the kinda-mall it’s located in.

Oh see that doesn't make as much money so no loving chance of that happening anywhere near the US.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

It's called rent-to-own and it's been around for decades.

Yeah furniture rental and rent to own places have been around longer than I've been alive and there are full businesses that only do just that.

BMW having a subscription for car seat warmers, however, is pretty new.

quick edit:

Original_Z posted:

Yes, but in the future the 'own' part will be taken away! Pay forever or they'll disable the functionality or take it away at your expense!

Yeah. :smith:

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Back before the Evil Fed raised rates you could get 0% financing on like all types of furniture and appliances. It was great

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

It's called rent-to-own and it's been around for decades.

Once upon a time random guys would knock on my door asking about my neighbor and trying to get me to take letters to hand them the next time I saw them. Turns out those guys were from a rent-to-own place, my neighbor was behind on their payments, and the collectors were trying to rope me in on it.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

thathonkey posted:

i thinke most people do it for the free shipping

Yep. I very rarely use prime video. Or any streaming service for that matter. Maybe once every few months to find some boring documentary to put on in the background. The savings in shipping is immense. Try getting some workout equipment shipped to your house. It's actual purpose is to be heavy and heavy = super loving expensive shipping. Hell, I ordered something that weighs 1lb last night and and the $30 item would have been $10.50 in shipping.

The only reason I have Hulu is to watch It's Always Sunny whenever I want. That's it though. So I should probably cancel that ASAP. I have no other streaming services.

As someone mentioned earlier, streaming has just reinvented cable but instead of sending your money to one company you are sending it to 5 different ones. 5 different companies who are charging you more every year and making the product worse, purposefully, to make you pay more.

poo poo sucks yo. I jumped on the streaming thing for a while but I'm pretty much done. It seems like they want me to pirate everything again. So I will. :getin:

edit: Amazon is a horrible company and if I can get stuff local I try. Especially books.

Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Apr 18, 2024

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

It's called rent-to-own and it's been around for decades.

Tech is going to reinvent it with the internet of things, combining everyone's favorite feature of videogames -- live service/24-7 connectivity -- with everyone's favorite feature of capitalism -- rent seeking*.

*I know that term doesn't typically mean rent in the literal sense, but in this case they're one and the same.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

If you want live local sports you are still paying for cable on top of steaming lol

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Original_Z posted:

I wonder how much longer until hardware becomes locked at a subscription. Buy that new microwave and washing machine for only $30 a month! Now everyone can own appliances, sure you'll spend more in the long run, but in the short term it's so affordable! Once you subscription lapses the machine stops working and bills you a huge cancellation fee and you also have to pay for the cost of courier to come pick it up!

You all know it's gonna happen eventually, we keep paying for subscriptions, even when they raise prices and make them worse companies continue to report growth and record profits. You know every industry wants to get a piece of the action.

My grandmother for many, many years had a rental CRT TV, it had a coin box on the back and periodically the TV would switch itself off and you'd have to pop a 50 pence piece in the back and twist a handle. As a kid it was actually kinda fun to do. These days though a kid wouldn't even get to twist a handle, the number would just drop off your bank balance.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
It's really not that different from the Rent-To-Own businesses, because with those the "Own" part was only theoretical. They work on the payday loan business model, just with a product in the middle. Rent out a couch, 90% of people will never actually make the principal or interest payments in full, so they either get the product repossessed, it end up paying forever and spending $60k on a $500 TV.

There's people out there that are still "renting to own" a 1983 Zenith front-projection TV. They'll almost have it paid off by Christmas, if only they only had more money and less meth to buy.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy

euphronius posted:

If you want live local sports you are still paying for cable on top of steaming lol

In theory

DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already

euphronius posted:

If you want live local sports you are still paying for cable on top of steaming lol

This is basically all I do. It's getting harder to get stuff that used to be nationally broadcast on the air, though. Patiently awaiting for the super bowl to be exclusive on Apple TV one year

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
You guys wanna hear something loving gross?

So my dad died almost a year ago. It was very sad and I'm still upset about it. My nephew and sister are living with my mom (and dad previously) due to financial troubles. My nephew never had a dad. He skipped town immediately when he was born. My dad was like a dad to him.

Last week my nephew told me that a while back, right after my dad died, someone came to their door and said "We're aware that someone just died here and we were wondering if you want to sell the house to us?" My nephew, about 6'3 220lbs and very polite and soft spoken was like "What?" The guy asked again and my nephew just said "Leave now."

I couldn't believe the loving gall of that snake. What prompted my nephew to tell me is that I sent him this text I got two weeks ago.



I looked up the company and they have no online presence and have been around for less than 2 years.

:capitalism:

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

It's really not that different from the Rent-To-Own businesses, because with those the "Own" part was only theoretical. They work on the payday loan business model, just with a product in the middle. Rent out a couch, 90% of people will never actually make the principal or interest payments in full, so they either get the product repossessed, it end up paying forever and spending $60k on a $500 TV.

There's people out there that are still "renting to own" a 1983 Zenith front-projection TV. They'll almost have it paid off by Christmas, if only they only had more money and less meth to buy.

I did some courses about personal finance stuff back in the late 00s, and the guy running them was a financial adviser who'd been in the industry for decades. One thing that stuck with me was that he said there'd been a big effort to raise awareness here in the UK for some years that those kind of rent-to-own/hire-purchase schemes were never, ever good value and to not trust them. And it had been working really well and they were starting to become much less common, except then the companies realised that people were actually really dumb so they just changed the way they described the arrangement and people immediately somehow missed that it was the exact same kind of scheme they knew was bad, and they became popular again. I can't remember what the actual change in wording was, but you'd straight up have people telling someone trying to help them with debts that they knew that kind of payment scheme was bad so they avoided it, but would be paying for multiple items using that very payment scheme under a different branding.

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005

Olympic Mathlete posted:

My grandmother for many, many years had a rental CRT TV, it had a coin box on the back and periodically the TV would switch itself off and you'd have to pop a 50 pence piece in the back and twist a handle. As a kid it was actually kinda fun to do. These days though a kid wouldn't even get to twist a handle, the number would just drop off your bank balance.

did she live in the book Ubik?

...oh god drat it. We all live in a Ubik now.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Pennywise the Frown posted:

You guys wanna hear something loving gross?

So my dad died almost a year ago.

Same. The mail and the phone calls trying to get the house are relentless.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.
When my father died someone wrote me several letters claiming to have been a friend of my dad's, and he explained that he and my father had talked many times about how if and when my father died, this dude would get a good deal on the house. loving wild, I don't know if he'd ever even met my father, I'd never heard of this person.

DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already

Pennywise the Frown posted:

You guys wanna hear something loving gross?

So my dad died almost a year ago. It was very sad and I'm still upset about it. My nephew and sister are living with my mom (and dad previously) due to financial troubles. My nephew never had a dad. He skipped town immediately when he was born. My dad was like a dad to him.

Last week my nephew told me that a while back, right after my dad died, someone came to their door and said "We're aware that someone just died here and we were wondering if you want to sell the house to us?" My nephew, about 6'3 220lbs and very polite and soft spoken was like "What?" The guy asked again and my nephew just said "Leave now."

I couldn't believe the loving gall of that snake. What prompted my nephew to tell me is that I sent him this text I got two weeks ago.



I looked up the company and they have no online presence and have been around for less than 2 years.

:capitalism:

jfc That feels like some modern-day Dickensian nightmare profession

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


My grandmother died a few years ago and the first two lawyers my parents tried pulled me aside partway through the initial meeting with the family to ask if I wanted to try to take the house for myself.

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tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
My dad also owns my brother's farm (until probate is done) so I get to constantly tease my brother with 'got another cash offer for your place, you better cough up'

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