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If that's what they are doing then they would easily see they were overtaking the car ahead of them e: sick rear end snipe 800peepee51doodoo fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Lol what kind of lovely driver has to pay attention to the road? Wow driving is easy as poo poo and you have to concentrate and focus? LOL noob.
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Apr 28, 2024 00:23
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you should notice if the car in front of you is going 3mph slower than you before your adaptive cruise control slows you down by the fact you are gaining on them
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Apr 28, 2024 00:23
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redshirt posted:Because with regular CC the speed difference is clear immediately, and I must adjust immediately. I’m sorry you have to pay attention while driving. That’s quite the burden
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Apr 28, 2024 00:34
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Brain Curry posted:I’m sorry you have to pay attention while driving. That’s quite the burden Defeats the purpose of CC, don't it?
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Apr 28, 2024 00:38
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redshirt posted:Defeats the purpose of CC, don't it? No. Tesla has had a ridiculous valuation based on the fiction that they’d be able to eliminate the need to pay attention, but in reality they’ve killed people.
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Apr 28, 2024 00:44
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Adaptive cruise control needs a polite chime when it lowers your speed too much. Make the chime adjustable 3-10 mph of adjustment. That's really all we're asking for. A light chime indicating when it has lowered your speed appreciably would be trivial to implement in software but god forbid anyone actually think about the end user. Instead it just gradually slows you down in 1-2 mph increments until your going 10 under and you're like what the gently caress? Why am I crawling along with someone tailgating me. Oh, the adaptive cruise control just decided to slow me down to a crawl because the person in front of me is driving like a jackass.
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Apr 28, 2024 00:45
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Leviathan Song posted:Adaptive cruise control needs a polite chime when it lowers your speed too much. Make the chime adjustable 3-10 mph of adjustment. That's really all we're asking for. A light chime indicating when it has lowered your speed appreciably would be trivial to implement in software but god forbid anyone actually think about the end user. Instead it just gradually slows you down in 1-2 mph increments until your going 10 under and you're like what the gently caress? Why am I crawling along with someone tailgating me. Oh, the adaptive cruise control just decided to slow me down to a crawl because the person in front of me is driving like a jackass. This
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Apr 28, 2024 00:46
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The point of adaptive CC is that you pick a lane, set it and forget it with the expectation you may catch up with someone going slower, so it'll adjust for you. If you want to go 76 and not slow down to 75, 72, 65 then you either don't engage it, or you use it like any other cruise control. You disable it with a press, do your passing, then enable it again. I am baffled about whatever the gently caress I just read, but I am not a rocket scientist, so there's that.
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Apr 28, 2024 00:52
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Philthy posted:The point of adaptive CC is that you pick a lane, set it and forget it with the expectation you may catch up with someone going slower, so it'll adjust for you. If you want to go 76 and not slow down to 75, 72, 65 then you either don't engage it, or you use it like any other cruise control. You disable it with a press, do your passing, then enable it again. I want to set it at 76 and have it let me know when it drops to 71 so I can pass the slowest person on the road and not get rear ended. There is always that one absurdly slow or erratic driver and I want to drive with traffic, not be their crumple zone.
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Apr 28, 2024 00:57
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Leviathan Song posted:Adaptive cruise control needs a polite chime when it lowers your speed too much. Make the chime adjustable 3-10 mph of adjustment. That's really all we're asking for. A light chime indicating when it has lowered your speed appreciably would be trivial to implement in software but god forbid anyone actually think about the end user. Instead it just gradually slows you down in 1-2 mph increments until your going 10 under and you're like what the gently caress? Why am I crawling along with someone tailgating me. Oh, the adaptive cruise control just decided to slow me down to a crawl because the person in front of me is driving like a jackass. You’re controlling thousands of pounds of metal please pay the slightest bit of attention to what the vehicle you’re driving is doing.
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Apr 28, 2024 00:57
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Leviathan Song posted:I want to set it at 76 and have it let me know when it drops to 71 so I can pass the slowest person on the road and not get rear ended. There is always that one absurdly slow or erratic driver and I want to drive with traffic, not be their crumple zone. You don't need anything to let you know because the speed you're going is right in front of your face.
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Apr 28, 2024 00:59
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Folks, the entire point of CC is you set a speed and you can forget about monitoring your speed. Adaptive CC changes that entirely as it will adjust your speed down, constantly. So now you have to manage your Adaptive CC. See the difference?
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Apr 28, 2024 01:01
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Philthy posted:You don't need anything to let you know because the speed you're going in right in front of your face. I'm convinced this is all an elaborate troll. Have you never encountered someone who just gradually slows down for no reason in front of you? I can't tell if my car drops 1 mph and I don't think you can either. If it gradually decelerates over 10 minutes can you actually discern that? The two times I tried ACC it was a consistent problem that I'd end up behind someone gradually slowing down and only notice when I had someone up my rear end. Maybe give my a chime when I'm being tailgated instead of slowing down? Either way it felt incredibly dangerous and way worse than traditional cruise control.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:04
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DRIVE. YOUR. loving. CAR.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:10
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Leviathan Song posted:Have you never encountered someone who just gradually slows down for no reason in front of you? I can't tell if my car drops 1 mph and I don't think you can either. If it gradually decelerates over 10 minutes can you actually discern that? The two times I tried ACC it was a consistent problem that I'd end up behind someone gradually slowing down and only notice when I had someone up my rear end. Maybe give my a chime when I'm being tailgated instead of slowing down? Either way it felt incredibly dangerous and way worse than traditional cruise control. Please look at your instruments which helpfully tell you the speed you’re going, if there are any issues with your car, and how much fuel you have among other fun and interesting bits of information.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:10
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MrQwerty posted:DRIVE. YOUR. loving. CAR. i love driving my cars
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lol at all the adaptive cruise control fans in this thread.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:11
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Leviathan Song posted:Have you never encountered someone who just gradually slows down for no reason in front of you? I can't tell if my car drops 1 mph and I don't think you can either. I can because my car has a speedometer. Does yours not have one?
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Apr 28, 2024 01:12
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If someone tailgates me, I just slow down 1mph at a time until they pass. That way, I no longer have to worry about them crashing into me.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:18
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BlackIronHeart posted:I can because my car has a speedometer. Does yours not have one? I never owned a car with a working speedometer but there's probably a phone app for that for that now.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:20
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spiritual bypass posted:If someone tailgates me, I just slow down 1mph at a time until they pass. That way, I no longer have to worry about them crashing into me.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:20
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RDM posted:But if they have adaptive cruise control they'll never notice and you'll both end up parked on the interstate Ever slower, and slower, and slower, and slower......
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Apr 28, 2024 01:22
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Momentary attention economy is a huge deal when driving, and visual information outside the windshield is a huge drain on it. While adaptive CC is cool and good specifically because it allows a driver to pay less attention to the gauge cluster, I agree that without audible alerts it serves as a periodic drain on momentary attention and is therefore decidedly not increasing safety overall. My company has had significant issues with adaptive CC in work vehicles. Most often it's either a motorcycle splitting lanes while weaving because they don't have space to safely do so, or an erratic driver in the next lane that the radar percieves as a merging vehicle. Both cause adaptive CC to unexpectedly slow the vehicle, and that causes accidents especially in the latter case as an erratic driver is far, far safer behind you than in front of you. This has caused enough accidents that we now address it monthly in meetings, and actively discourage use of cruise control in anything resembling traffic. There is absolutely a version of adaptive CC that makes an alert driver safer, but the current implementation is also 100% Not It, Bub.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:23
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RDM posted:But if they have adaptive cruise control they'll never notice and you'll both end up parked on the interstate Adaptive cruise control maintains a reasonable following distance
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Apr 28, 2024 01:23
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:Momentary attention economy is a huge deal when driving, and visual information outside the windshield is a huge drain on it. While adaptive CC is cool and good specifically because it allows a driver to pay less attention to the gauge cluster, I agree that without audible alerts it serves as a periodic drain on momentary attention and is therefore decidedly not increasing safety overall. The cars in the rear should simply not crash into the car ahead of them. If they had adaptive cruise control, this wouldn't be an issue
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spiritual bypass posted:Adaptive cruise control maintains a reasonable following distance
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:Momentary attention economy is a huge deal when driving, and visual information outside the windshield is a huge drain on it. While adaptive CC is cool and good specifically because it allows a driver to pay less attention to the gauge cluster, I agree that without audible alerts it serves as a periodic drain on momentary attention and is therefore decidedly not increasing safety overall. Holy poo poo somebody should fix this. Why the gently caress would it slow down just to prevent a motorcyclist from getting hit? Just awful design.
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While we're on the topic, Google Maps is a huge, huge attention drain nowadays to the point that we're evaluating alternatives. Popups like Waze with an audio cue to ask if a speed trap or vehicle on the side of the road is Still There? Check. Popups suggesting dramatic and sometimes costly route changes that you have 10 seconds to engage with or they'll auto-accept? Check. Poorly worded instructions that require you to read and understand the next several steps of directions in order to navigate (calling the combined E/W expressway exit "Interstate West Exit" then immediately instructing to merge onto the East side of the exit, causing an unexpected lane change you've got 100ft to execute) Check. People don't understand how much less safe we are when these "adaptive" tools are functionally maladaptive. It sounds trivial but the cost is in human lives, so absolutely any cost at all is unacceptable. Shame Congress is too busy with culture war bullshit to effectively regulate absolutely any of this. E: Duck and Cover posted:Holy poo poo somebody should fix this. Why the gently caress would it slow down just to prevent a motorcyclist from getting hit? Just awful design. Even at sub-milisecond response times, the motorcycle is already gone (it's going way, way faster than the truck u see) before Adaptive CC has a chance to react. Also, if a lane splitting motorcycle is going to cause an accident, I'd frankly rather the unsafe, illegally-lane-splitting motorcyclist be involved than some poor parent with kids in the car rear-ending a three ton work truck. If that's the choice, it's no choice at all. Shit Fuckasaurus fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Apr 28, 2024 01:31
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YouTube randomly skips around periodically when I'm watching longer videos now. Sometimes it goes forward 45 seconds, sometimes it goes back 210 minutes. I can't discern any pattern to when or why it does this or what makes it choose how much to skip, and it happens no matter what device I'm watching from. Just have to spend a few minutes scrubbing through the video and hope I can find where I left off before it does it again.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:32
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I agree with all the points above about Adaptive CC and for some, the feature probably is pretty cool. But that I can't opt out of it is the issue. There's no way around it in a new Toyota as far as I can tell. And I hate that.
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:While we're on the topic, Google Maps is a huge, huge attention drain nowadays to the point that we're evaluating alternatives. Popups like Waze with an audio cue to ask if a speed trap or vehicle on the side of the road is Still There? Check. Popups suggesting dramatic and sometimes costly route changes that you have 10 seconds to engage with or they'll auto-accept? Check. Poorly worded instructions that require you to read and understand the next several steps of directions in order to navigate (calling the combined E/W expressway exit "Interstate West Exit" then immediately instructing to merge onto the East side of the exit, causing an unexpected lane change you've got 100ft to execute) Check. Seems to me thanks to AI we can predict the motorcycle from far away and either swing out the doors or activate the harpoon at the appropriate time to ensure that motorcycle is punished for daring to use the roads. (also while people may tell me it's safe and legal to do so holy poo poo I certainly would not be willing to do it as I value my life). You might be asking do we really need AI for this? You're fired. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Apr 28, 2024 02:17
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redshirt posted:I agree with all the points above about Adaptive CC and for some, the feature probably is pretty cool. If you can't Google it then you don't need to be turning it off, or even driving a car imo
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Apr 28, 2024 02:18
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satanic splash-back posted:If you can't Google it then you don't need to be turning it off, or even driving a car imo Yes, you're correct, I give up my license to drive.
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Apr 28, 2024 02:19
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Olympic Mathlete posted:lmao a lot of modern stuff gets woeful mileage because everything is so big and heavy but needs to have some level of performance. I have a 1987 Civic that will do about 46mpg combined, engine tech has probably improved since then so why is a huge chunk modern stuff barely getting 35mpg and people are lauding it as great? Saw two people watching TikTok or IG reels on their phone mounted to the dash while driving, with plenty of other cars around.
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Apr 28, 2024 02:33
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skooma512 posted:Saw two people watching TikTok or IG reels on their phone mounted to the dash while driving, with plenty of other cars around. The future is here
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Apr 28, 2024 02:55
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:My company has had significant issues with adaptive CC in work vehicles. appreciate you bringing expertise and data to the discussion, this is interesting
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Why do old people struggle so hard to comprehend the idea of a "podcast"?? It's just a drat radio show. They can get the idea of steaming video but not podcasts for some reason.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Why do old people struggle so hard to comprehend the idea of a "podcast"?? It's just a drat radio show. They can get the idea of steaming video but not podcasts for some reason.
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