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 WHEN RETURNING, PLEASE USE THE FORM BELOW AND VOTE - Returning Team: PROPOSALS FOR SEASON 15 (simple majority wins) 1. Remove the TE slot and replace it with a flex position (yes/no) - 4 votes yes, 15 votes no, proposal fails 2. Trades will need (2 days/8 veto votes, 1 day/8 veto votes, instant/no veto votes) to process. - 0 votes two days, 5 votes one day, 14 votes instant, INSTANT/NO VETO TRADES PASSED 3. Remove the punter position (yes/no) - 9 votes yes, 10 votes no, proposal fails 4. Revert to standard ESPN defense scoring (example here) (yes/no) - 9 votes yes, 10 votes no, proposal fails 5. Remove DST and add one IDP position in its place. (yes/no) - 2 votes yes, 17 votes no, proposal fails 6. If a game is unexpectedly cancelled and is NOT replayed, the final fantasy scores stand as is. (yes/no) - 14 votes yes. 5 votes no, PROPOSAL PASSES 7. If #4 passes, eliminate negative points in the D/ST position (but keep all other standard scoring). (yes/no) - 12 votes yes, 7 votes no, proposal passes, but #4 did not pass, so no changes 8. Remove DST, add nothing to replace it (yes/no) - 4 votes yes, 15 votes no, proposal fails For the draft: Name your favorite WWE/AEW/WCW/WWF wrestler (or just any wrestler from there you know if you're not a fan). PROPOSALS FOR SEASON 16: (simple majority wins) Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Aug 4, 2023 |
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Welcome to Season 15 of the 20 team fantasy league! This is your commissioner Silly Burrito, and how the hell has 15 years gone by but I still look so drat good? Our current draft is tentatively scheduled for Sun, September 3, 2023, 8 PM Eastern / 7 PM Central. This is subject to change if necessary. New for this year TL;DR if you don't read anything else: Trades now process instantly, and we have an official policy for cancelled games. MEMBERS: Priority goes to the players who got into the league last year. If you want in for 2023, post in THIS THREAD OR THE LEAGUE PAGE ON ESPN by Aug. 13th or your spot will be given up. If you changed your username or team name, let us know. Second priority goes to wait list people. If you want to be added to the wait list, post and we will add you first come first serve. When voting, please remember to post your team name to help me keep everything straight. The list of last year's players below will start us off, and we'll go from there. CONFIRMED SEASON 15 PLAYERS: AAAAA! Real Muenster Braksgirl  chrix commish darkwolf220 Diqnol EconDad  Eltoasto Lock Ninja Bob Pain of Mind Power of Pecota   pmchem Quiet Feet ShakeZula Silly Burrito Thom and the Heads tuckfard will the thrill Worthleast CONFIRMED SEASON 15 TEAMS: Akron Peppercorns (Power of Pecota) ArchimeDEEZ NUTS (AAAAA! Real Muenster) Baller Status (commish) Boudin Ballers (Silly Burrito) Chem's Cylons (pmchem) Discount Double Champ (Diqnol) Electric Blue (EconDad) Flowers for Edgerrin (ShakeZula) Inwards Topwise (Worthleast) Lock Picks (Lock) M. Night Shanahan (Pain of Mind) Naptown Sleepers (chrix) Paytons Bong (will the thrill) Placeholder Name (Ninja Bob) Rated R Superstars (tuckfard) Seattle Fraisers (darkwolf220) Shelbyville Sharks (Thom and the Heads) Spinnin Freeneys (Eltoasto) Taco Tuesday (Braksgirl) Washington Washingtons (Quiet Feet) WAIT LIST FOR 2024: STONE COLD 64 DIVISION CHANGES: If you'd like to change your division, you may find someone to swap with and I'll make the change. If someone doesn't come back for season 15, this is the list for people who could potentially move into that divisional spot (if they so desire, it's not mandatory). ROSTER BREAKDOWN: Here are the current roster requirements. 1 QB 1 RB 1 WR 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE) 1 TE 1 D/ST 1 K 1 Punter 5 Bench spots 2 IR DRAFT: We will be doing a live online draft. Please plan your schedules accordingly. Set your rankings or get a friend to draft for you if need be. Draft order will be randomized after the league is officially filled but the commissioners (Silly Burrito/Braksgirl) can be bribed with pictures of unicorns farting. LEAGUE SCHEDULING: Just like last year, the playoffs are from weeks 15-17. We will just shift the games using the same tool so that you should play a couple of different conference games and out of conference games. This year, with -8 division games -4 conference games -2 out of conference games We keep the same divisions. The AFC (Marino, Namath) and NFC (Montana, Romo) conferences will be placed on other ends of the real playoffs when the time comes. CANCELLED GAMES: If a game is unexpectedly cancelled and is NOT replayed, the final fantasy scores stand as is. TRADES: Per league vote, trades are instantly processed with no veto votes necessary. The commissioners still reserve the right to veto obvious collusion trades. SCORING:    PLAYOFF BERTHS: The playoff berths are calculated based on the actual rules that the NFL has. Yes, this is a pain in the rear end, but it's a pain in the rear end of a labor of love, or something like that. Eight out of twenty of you happy assholes get in. Four division champions, two wild card berths in each conference. IGNORE ANY ESPN PLAYOFF SEEDINGS AS THE CALCULATIONS WILL BE POSTED IN THE THREAD. LEAGUE LINKS: Main League Page Emergency Discord, not really used HALL OF HONOR: Season 01: Yaphet / J-City Rockstars [Joe Montana Division] Season 02: bbf2 / Plaxico's Hand gun Emporium [Dan Marino Division] Season 03: bbf2 / Stevie J's Hand gun Emporium [Dan Marino Division] Season 04: JuicedSixFo / Zoltan Mesko [Dan Marino Division] Season 05: chrix / Naptown Sleepers [Bart Starr/Tony Romo Division] Season 06: Braksgirl / Taco Tuesday [Dan Marino Division] Season 07: commish / Baller Status [Joe Namath Division] Season 08: Diqnol / Discount Double Champ [Joe Montana Division] Season 09: darkwolf220 / Seattle Fraisers [Joe Montana Division] Season 10: Eltoasto / Spinnin Freeneys [Joe Namath Division] Season 11: Lock / Chubb Hunter [Dan Marino Division] Season 12: Quiet Feet / Washington Washingtons [Dan Marino Division] Season 13: Ninja Bob / Placeholder Name [Joe Namath Division] Season 14: Pain of Mind / M. Night Shanahan [Joe Namath Division] AND Thom and the Heads / Shelbyville Sharks [Joe Montana Division] Season 15: pmchem / Chem's Cylons [Dan Marino Division] GANG TAG: This is the 20 Team Championship gang tag for anyone who has won this league. Ain't it a beaut?  DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIPS: Dan Marino: 7 Joe Montana: 4 Joe Namath: 4 Tony Romo: 1 LEAGUE HISTORY: Season 15 - To Punt, Or Not To Punt, That Is The Question Season 14 - I'd like at least a shot of claiming Geno Smith on waivers Season 13 - The Fear of Triskaidekaphobia Season 12 - Winning is Contagious Season 11 - Now Entering 2 Decades of Bad Picks Season 10 - Under NEW Management Season 09 - The Final Sunday? Season 08 - The Thing Still Exists? Season 07 - What the gently caress is Wrong With Us? Season 06 - Still Not as Tough as the SEC Season 05 - The Only Place Dan Marino Gets a Ring Season 04 - Bounty Programs Aint Crazy Y'all Season 03 - More Nuts than CBA Arguments Season 02 - Still loving Nuts Season 01 - Let's Go Nuts Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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Returning Team: Boudin Ballers 1. Remove the TE slot and replace it with a flex position (no) 2. Trades will need (instant/no veto votes) to process. 3. Remove the punter position (yes) 4. Revert to standard ESPN defense scoring (example here) (yes) 5. Remove DST and add one IDP position in its place. (no) 6. If a game is unexpectedly cancelled and is NOT replayed, the final fantasy scores stand as is. (yes) 7. If #4 passes, eliminate negative points in the D/ST position (but keep all other standard scoring). (yes) 8. Remove DST, add nothing to replace it (no) For the draft: Name your favorite WWE/AEW/WCW/WWF wrestler (or just any wrestler from there you know if you're not a fan): Mankind/Mick Foley
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pmchem posted:
Not this year, but we could make it a proposition for next season if necessary.
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Just a heads up, if you don't add a favorite wrestler, it's commish's choice. 
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jabro posted:I fully expected 20 people to pick him. I can’t comprehend any other answer. Honestly that would be pretty funny for what I want to do.
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Thanks. We still have two potentially returning members and two members who haven’t voted, so a few of them are still up in the air. I’m hoping once we have our full 20, I’ll set a deadline of the next day or so to finalize the votes and go from there.
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pmchem posted:any chance of draft date/time moving? trying to schedule other drafts, too, just gotta figure things out It’s possible if we can find an alternate time that still works for everyone. Usually keep this one on Sunday nights for consistency, but it’s not set in stone.
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Great! With that, we now have all 20 spots filled, and everyone is back!  Thanks to all of you, you make this league as fun as it is.  For the votes, let’s say that all votes need to be in by tonight (August 3rd), and I’ll finalize the count tomorrow morning. Draft order will be coming soon.
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Ok, the votes are locked. Here are the official final results. Never let anyone tell you that one vote doesn’t matter. We had two proposals that were ultimately decided by one vote. PROPOSALS FOR SEASON 15 (simple majority wins) 1. Remove the TE slot and replace it with a flex position (yes/no) - 4 votes yes, 15 votes no, proposal fails 2. Trades will need (2 days/8 veto votes, 1 day/8 veto votes, instant/no veto votes) to process. - 0 votes two days, 5 votes one day, 14 votes instant, INSTANT/NO VETO TRADES PASSED 3. Remove the punter position (yes/no) - 9 votes yes, 10 votes no, proposal fails 4. Revert to standard ESPN defense scoring (example here) (yes/no) - 9 votes yes, 10 votes no, proposal fails 5. Remove DST and add one IDP position in its place. (yes/no) - 2 votes yes, 17 votes no, proposal fails 6. If a game is unexpectedly cancelled and is NOT replayed, the final fantasy scores stand as is. (yes/no) - 14 votes yes. 5 votes no, PROPOSAL PASSES 7. If #4 passes, eliminate negative points in the D/ST position (but keep all other standard scoring). (yes/no) - 12 votes yes, 7 votes no, proposal passes, but #4 did not pass, so no changes 8. Remove DST, add nothing to replace it (yes/no) - 4 votes yes, 15 votes no, proposal fails I’ll update ESPN with the instant trades soon, and now we have a rule in place for any unexpectedly cancelled games. Thanks to everyone for voting. Any proposals for next season can start now. Just be sure to bold it or draw attention to it so I don’t miss it, but the proposal time will last until next year’s thread. I’ll put any new ones in the OP. Draft order probably drops this weekend. Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Aug 4, 2023 |
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pmchem posted:great, fun votes. for draft order may I suggest making it a viewable event with this site? That’s actually a really cool site that I hadn’t heard about, thank you! If I didn’t have another idea, I’d definitely use it. And hell, no need to play coy, here’s what I’m doing: I asked everyone for their favorite wrestler. So, I took everyone’s choices and made the first ever 20 Team Draft Rumble. I set it up in Fire Pro Wrestling, and randomized the entrance order. Just to be clear, I randomized it as much as I could, and I did not alter any settings or anything to give any advantages. I just started the recording program, hit start, and let it play out. I had asked Braksgirl to help me out, and last night we recorded an announcing track for it. Apparently our kids wondered what the hell we were yelling about. So, I had planned to mix the two together and post it in this thread for all to watch. But, if there’s an interest, I’d be happy to set up Discord or something else, and I can play the video in there. I don’t have to mix the audio we made if more people want to join and reveal it “live”. Maybe around Sunday night or so? Y’all let me know, I’m happy to go either way.
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Power of Pecota posted:I would prefer moving it if possible because I'd rather not duck away from an event on the 27th, but understood either way. The 26th is worse for me though What about Monday August 28th? I don’t have any drafts on that day. Same time, 8PM Eastern. Does that cause problems with anyone else?
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:
Gotta read that OP. Is there anyone at all who absolutely cannot make Sunday the 27th at 8 pm eastern?
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Aug 4, 2023 15:53
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Well poo poo, I was busy when I first read it and only looked at the rule change questions, derp. No problem, because… Silly Burrito posted:Just a heads up, if you don't add a favorite wrestler, it's commish's choice. I already did.
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Aug 4, 2023 15:58
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Unfortunately, jabro has had to bow out of the league. He will be missed but is always welcome back. Since we don’t have a current waitlist, does anyone know someone who might be interested? If not, I’ll shoot out a request in the main fantasy football thread. As for the draft order, it will still go on as planned with the new member getting jabro’s spot.
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Aug 4, 2023 18:10
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Posted in the fantasy thread for the open spot. First come first served. If we held the draft reveal Sunday night at 9PM Eastern/8 Central, would anyone be interested in watching/commenting via Discord? The match itself is roughly 20-25 minutes long. If I can figure out how to record the Discord audio and play the video, I’ll post it in this thread too.
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Thom and the Heads posted:I'm not gonna be available the 25-27th I know this is Labor Day weekend, but what does Sunday September 3rd look like (same time around 8 Eastern) for everyone? I really want to get everyone in or as many people that can make it as possible. It’s way more fun with no bots.
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Pain of Mind posted:If I have Discord sitting around and it works I would try to watch live and cheer on my wrestler. I don't really have a strong preference for draft spot yet so I am not sure what I would be cheering for, outside of my guy winning to win. AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:My toddler is usually/should be in bed by then so I'm happy to be A Witness. PM'd you my discord details. Cool, not sure if the link in the second post will still work or not, but for anyone who wants to watch the 20 Team Draft Rumble, it should be available at https://discord.gg/3mWKKFmzw Gonna plan to start around 9 PM Eastern / 8 PM Central on Sunday August 6th and go from there. Now to figure out if I can record Discord with OBS or not or if there's a better way.
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Quiet Feet posted:That'd be fine for me. No worries, whoever can make it, you’re more than welcome. How does Sunday September 3rd look for everyone else?
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Just tested, and the Draft Rumble should be ready to go. For those who can't make it, I should upload it in the next day or so. For anyone else (and anyone else watching the thread), just log in to Discord, join the 20 Team channel (https://discord.gg/3mWKKFmzw), and join us in the Voice Chat in two hours (9 PM Eastern, 8 PM Central). Hope to see you there!
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Quiet Feet posted:I'm gonna wait for the Netflix anime adaptation where EconDad and I are high school rivals. A wise move indeed.
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will the thrill posted:My fantasy league disbanded this year (a little part of me died inside). Wouldn't mind joining you guys if a spot opens up. Absolutely, you’re in! Send me your email and I’ll sign you up.
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will the thrill posted:Sweet!!! email is [email="redacted"][/email] Done, you should have an invitation being sent now. I'll follow up with an email from me if you want to erase your email now.
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The 2023 20 Team Draft Rumble is being uploaded and will be in my next post, but since it seems like it's probably the least objectionable (and no one has said that they were unable to make it), we're going to move the draft to Sun, September 3, 2023, 8PM Eastern Time / 7PM Central Time It should only take 60 minutes, I think last year we tested with having all draft picks take 60 seconds, and the draft flew by.
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Well, the draft order Discord worked out pretty well, and we had a good time. Buuuuuuut somehow I didn't actually record MY sound, and I was handling play-by-play. So that's a derp on me, sorry. But, as the wise band Poison sang, every rose has its thorn. Instead of the live event audio, you get the play by play that a heel Braksgirl and I made originally. I hope you enjoy, and if we do this again next year, I'll try to remember to record my own audio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-azEAk7D0E For those who don't want to watch it, here's the draft order (spoilered for those who want to watch the video). Drafting 1: Power of Pecota Drafting 2: will the thrill Drafting 3: commish Drafting 4: Thom and the Heads Drafting 5: AAAAA! Real Muenster Drafting 6: Worthleast Drafting 7: Quiet Feet Drafting 8: tuckfard Drafting 9 : ShakeZula Drafting 10: Lock Drafting 11: pmchem Drafting 12: Silly Burrito Drafting 13: EconDad Drafting 14: Diqnol Drafting 15: Ninja Bob Drafting 16: Eltoasto Drafting 17: darkwolf220 Drafting 18: Pain of Mind Drafting 19: chrix Drafting 20: Braksgirl Congratulations to Power of Pecota for winning the #1 draft pick!!! Since the action was fast and furious, you may have missed who eliminated who. If so and you're curious.... Drafting 20: Braksgirl (Jade Cargill) eliminated by PM Chem (Roddy Piper) at 9:52 Drafting 19: Chrix (Booker T) eliminated by Pain of Mind (Road Warrior Hawk) at 11:49 Drafting 18: Pain of Mind (Road Warrior Hawk) eliminated by Eltoasto (Seth Rollins) at 13:04 Drafting 17: Darkwolf220 (Jake “The Snake” Roberts) eliminated by PM Chem (Roddy Piper) at 16:31 Drafting 16: Eltoasto (Seth Rollins) eliminated by Ninja Bob (Bianca Belair) at 18:50 Drafting 15: Ninja Bob (Bianca Belair) eliminated by Lock (Jumping Bomb Angel Itsuki Yamazaki) at 20:25 Drafting 14: Diqnol (nWo Macho Man) eliminated by PM Chem (Roddy Piper at 24:31 Drafting 13: EconDad (“Million Dollar Man” Ted Dibiase) eliminated by Silly Burrito (Mankind) at 25:02 Drafting 12: Silly Burrito (Mankind) eliminated by Tuckfard (Edge) at 25:39 Drafting 11: PM Chem (Roddy Piper) eliminated by Lock (Jumping Bomb Angel Itsuki Yamazaki) at 26:58 Drafting 10: Lock (Jumping Bomb Angel Itsuki Yamazaki) eliminated by Worthleast (Mean Gene Okerlund) at 28:50 Drafting 9 : Shakezula (Bray Wyatt) eliminated by AAAAA! Real Muenster (Bryan Danielson) at 30:25 Drafting 8: Tuckfard (Edge) eliminated by Thom and the Heads (nWo Hulk Hogan) at 36:27 Drafting 7: Quiet Feet (Macho King Randy Savage) eliminated by Thom and the Heads (nWo Hulk Hogan) at 38:19 Drafting 6: Worthleast (Mean Gene Okerlund) eliminated by Commish (Stone Cold Steve Austin) at 39:42 Drafting 5: AAAAA! Real Muenster (Bryan Danielson) eliminated by Will the Thrill (Macho Man Randy Savage) at 40:13 Drafting 4: Thom and the Heads (nWo Hulk Hogan) eliminated by Commish (Stone Cold Steve Austin) at 43:04 Drafting 3: Commish (Stone Cold Steve Austin) eliminated by Will the Thrill (Macho Man Randy Savage) at 43:15 Drafting 2: Will the Thrill (Macho Man Randy Savage) eliminated by Power of Pecota (Mr. Perfect) at 46:31 NUMBER ONE DRAFT PICK IS POWER OF PECOTA (Mr. Perfect)!!!!! I'll update the draft order tomorrow. Thanks to everyone who was able to attend, and I hope you enjoyed it.
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Power of Pecota posted:
Congrats (at least on the second part)! I have to say though, my favorite was Mean Gene just running around and nut punching everyone. drat near worked too! Also gave you your Rumble badge in the second post Edit: Draft order has been updated. You are now free to make any draft spot trades that you'd like. Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Aug 7, 2023 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I tried ctrl+f'ing on the prior two pages/OP and did not see a confirmed draft date, but my reading comprehension in only this thread has been terrible.... can anyone confirm the draft day/time? Or has it not been set yet? Silly Burrito posted:The 2023 20 Team Draft Rumble is being uploaded and will be in my next post, but since it seems like it's probably the least objectionable (and no one has said that they were unable to make it), we're going to move the draft to Not tomorrow, but next Sunday night at 7PM. Hope to see you all there!
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I also realized I haven’t randomized the schedule. I’ll try to do that tomorrow.
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Schedule has been updated on ESPN. Everything should be correct, but if you see any errors please let me know. It's possible you may have a similar matchup from last year, but everything was randomized in Google Sheets so it should be a bit better than the old slide up/down method.
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Just a reminder before you start your Labor Day plans, the draft is Sunday night! Mark your calendars, and draft responsibly.
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Draft day! I’ve actually got two drafts today, LSU plays tonight, and there’s an AEW PPV. It’s a good day!
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Quiet Feet posted:SB's gonna be distracted everybody, pick all his players while he's watchin' TV. It’s a 60 second timer. Gotta draft fast.
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chrix posted:Brian Robinson wanted me to ask: have any players gotten shot today that I should know about before the draft? Pat Mahomes
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Good draft, there were definitely a couple of snipes that had me  but what can you do?
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I didn't even know we had a trade until I looked for Pecota's graph above. drat, that is a difference from last year. Did anyone get an email?
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Just to be clear, I don’t mind that there was a trade, I’m just surprised it didn’t send out an email like it did before. I guess it figures that if there is no review period, there’s no need to send a notification. 
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chrix posted:I'm starting to regret picking Cooper Kupp As someone who has Kupp and JT in another league, I feel your pain.
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I knew I should’ve started Sam Howell over Joe Burrow. 
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Sorry to whoever grabbed him but I've been telling this league for years that Aaron Rodgers will let you down in here.
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pmchem posted:their qb1 is tua, they're good for a few weeks If I had to guess, Zach Wilson is still available, so things are looking up.
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