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hey human being i see every day! youve arrived 5 minutes early before your shift, nice, that's good however theres a chance you wont start working in the next 5 minutes, which in turn will ruin the entire work day and certainly end productivity. your fired...
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i always show up at meetings an hour late, to show how busy I am. I never answer the phone or emails for the same reason.
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Jul 2, 2023 21:42
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Either a CEO or a janitor
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Jose Oquendo posted:Based on your posts, you appear to be complicit in it. You could actually do your part and make sure your employees are paid for the time they're doing work poo poo. 
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Jul 2, 2023 21:44
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Jose Oquendo posted:Based on your posts, you appear to be complicit in it. You could actually do your part and make sure your employees are paid for the time they're doing work poo poo. The problem is systemic though. If McCoy did that, they would be fired. Even the most well meaning manager is going to to poo poo like this because they have targets reach. Joe Chill fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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Jul 2, 2023 22:06
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pencilhands posted:I’ve been working at a new job recently. I always come in a few minutes before starting time, and my boss has been giving me an attitude about it. Like start time is 7 am and I show up at 6:55, and as I drive up he rolls his eyes and shouts “here comes last-minute pencilhands!” Did you inform them that is illegal to not pay you for any time you spend doing anything related to work, including waiting or login time?
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Earlier this year I stepped down from "leadership" because 1) I wasn't allowed to make any real decisions for my own team, 2) I got a "bad" rating last year because 3 of my direct reports had below average stats and attendance, things that were out of my control and HR wouldn't let me do anything about it and 3) I realized I could go to an hourly position and get paid for hours 41-50 that I work every week and by the end of the year I will have made more money due to overtime, and 4) once I'm done with my work im done, I don't have to think about anything after 4pm or the weekends or be on call ever.
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Jul 2, 2023 22:58
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Bloodfart McCoy posted:American manager here. nah you aint real bro no one is this unchill
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Jul 2, 2023 23:06
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you should charge the time that you spend driving to work, or even time spent grooming for work if you weren't gonna do that anyway basically, anything you do during your day that you wouldn't have had to do if not for your employer's demands should be charged to the company, and it's immoral to do otherwise
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Jul 2, 2023 23:09
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The american worker is an irredeemable parasite and all managers should be bathed in glory for their ability to control the working filth
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Jul 2, 2023 23:51
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Internet Old One posted:murder your manager. 
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Jul 3, 2023 00:35
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This poo poo is the reason that the Japanese are literally going extinct.
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flubber nuts posted:managers are basically cops No cop ever called me "resource"
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Bluemillion posted:This poo poo is the reason that the Japanese are literally going extinct. They've always been ahead of the curve on some things, I can't wait for the rest of the world to catch up to this latest innovation
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Jul 3, 2023 00:54
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The American salaryman, forced to go out drinking with his boss, chugging 4loko and getting iced...
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Jul 3, 2023 02:20
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Bloodfart McCoy posted:The employee handbook states that an employee’s work day begins at 8am, and they should be at their desk logged in at that time. So you're saying that you have actively illegal practices codified inside your employee handbook? Noice, that'll be great evidence. Employees must be paid for all setup and preparation time for their work, including bootup and login procedures.
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The shittiest boss I had wanted me to come in early to work to help the front of shop people set up (I worked IT in the back office lol) which was a half hour process. I was also told that as long as the front of shop was open and there were customers we couldn't close, and also you could never tell anyone we were closed, you had to shut the doors when no one was around only. I never showed up early, always on time, so he got pissed I never helped spend half an hour unpaid working. The first time the place had customers still coming in at 5pm it was a massive line. I told the other workers I'm not getting paid for this, so I'm going home. They understood. Turns out they were there because of these rules until 7pm. Two hours. Unpaid, because the boss told everyone our hours are very clearly 8-5. When he chewed me out I asked if he was going to pay me overtime for out of hours work and he obviously said no, so I wasn't going to do it clearly. I ended up leaving that job with a $7k leave pay because I worked out he had been loving with the numbers and underpaying me and other people. When I pointed it out he said I could either drop it and keep my job, or take the money and leave. When I said I'd take the money he lost his poo poo, and I just walked out. gently caress that dude, piece of poo poo.
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Bloodfart McCoy posted:American manager here. Fellow American manager here, high five! I demand that my crew come early to suck my dick. Since I get off in about 20 seconds everything's fine by 8 o'clock when they operate their computers
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Jul 3, 2023 05:49
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This idea that you're supposed to come in early to do unpaid work before your work officially starts is absurd to me but also strikes me as extremely American so I'm not too surprised. Setting up your work environment for the day is work.
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Jul 3, 2023 06:03
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The trick is to come in two hour earlier than your boss, than all you need to do is change the locks on the business, and due to squatters rights as long as your the only one who's been living in the place for an hour and you have locks on it, now it's yours! That well teach them a good lesson why they shouldn't make their employees come in early. 
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Jul 3, 2023 08:26
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Bloodfart McCoy posted:American manager here. Anything they're doing at work to be ready for work is work
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flubber nuts posted:managers are basically cops There's no way that only 40% of them beat their families.
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Jul 3, 2023 09:11
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Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime That’s why I begin my work day exactly at my assigned starting time
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Jul 3, 2023 11:06
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I'm actually an American factory owner and you better believe set up time is not part of the working day. Now you see the widget machine takes about three hours to get to a safe operating temperature because the oil has to be heated up. Obviously we ask everyone to get in two hours early to switch on and start production (prepare their workstation you might say) and I'm sure as poo poo not paying for it!!
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Jul 3, 2023 11:42
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Bloodfart McCoy posted:American manager here. If you're supposed to start work at 8 am then all you need is to have punched in at 8 am. You don't need to be at a desk or anything like that. My office logs your punch in when you swipe in at the front door so guess what, if I'm supposed to start at 8 I'm not late unless I enter the door past 8 am.
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Jul 3, 2023 11:42
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Im not waking up that early op
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Jul 3, 2023 11:45
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"See, our business is actually only a penny profit business, our profit margins are just, just razor thin... " And so last year we gave over 10 million to tax deductible charities..."
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Joe Chill posted:The problem is systemic though. If McCoy did that, they would be fired. Even the most well meaning manager is going to to poo poo like this because they have targets reach. If the manager was any good they could express this in terms of risk so upper management understands or put them on the spot committing to it in writing if they're too dumb to listen they'll be too dumb to catch what you're doing to them and who even cares about targets? If you can't change what's going on it'll take at least a year to get pip'd on metrics. Spend that time getting a PMP and finding an actual management job where you're making more money and not sweating CSR KPIs and garbage like that. Rewrite your current resume so that your current "management experience" sounds half in line with what a PM does and jump ship. Half the PMs I work with don't even seem to know what a PM does and I honestly wonder if they braindumped their PMP/CSM certs or something so it's not like it takes a lot to get hired as one.
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Not only do I not start work early but as far as I'm concerned my commute is part of my work day too.
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..wrong threeeaaaaaaad
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Oh no, I have clocked in 3 minutes late to my shitposting job!
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Strategic Tea posted:No cop ever called me "resource" Like all resources, workers exist to be extracted unsustainably and then for the economy to collapse when they run out. 
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Bloodfart McCoy posted:American manager here. Why should you not get paid to do those things?
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Echoing that "on time is late" is some military bs. OP's boss is either ex-military or a bootlicker wannabe. Forcing yourself to be a little early is a good habit for adhd people like me, since we have a tendency to lateness. But if you don't need that safety measure, it shouldn't be imposed by others.
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I formerly worked maintenance driving to several different sites in the company all day, and my boss tried telling me early on that if we’re still at a site and 5 pm rolls around, we’re supposed to finish what we’re doing, clock out where we’re at, and then drive back to our place and do what we need to do before going home. I laughed at him each time he brought it up and told him no sane business would ever allow such a thing, and that we leave at 5 pm out the door from our place. Told him if we’re at a place ‘til 5 pm and still working, then it’s overtime pay because we’re in a company vehicle, and if the company allowed us to clock out while we’re still out in the field working, then it’s a huge liability to be driving company vehicles while we’re off the clock. He snapped back with his reasoning of if we get into a wreck in a company vehicle off the clock, we’re responsible for it  It never worked, he absolutely knew he was full of poo poo and thought I was dumb, and he stopped brining it up. My coworkers told me he also tried that poo poo on them when they were new, too.
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don't take any guff from those disgruntled employees
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I feel like paying someone a full salary to do nothing but micromanage the time between employees entering the front door and when they do their first production-related task is a tremendous waste of company funds and the entire office can probably work fine without that person on payroll.
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Another masterthread by
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I have 15 minutes of setup and 15 minutes of teardown at my job. It involves loading and unloading heavy poo poo from a truck. The boss doesn't want to pay for the extra 30 mins because she says she pays more during the regular work part to offset the extra work (???). Luckily she's so cheap she has no payroll/admin staff so I can just put +30 mins on my time card every day and she rubber stamps it without looking.
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pencilhands posted:I’ve been working at a new job recently. I always come in a few minutes before starting time, and my boss has been giving me an attitude about it. Like start time is 7 am and I show up at 6:55, and as I drive up he rolls his eyes and shouts “here comes last-minute pencilhands!” Shove a pineapple up his dickhole
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