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illcendiary posted:Buddy of mine posed an interesting hypothetical/thought exercise earlier. Say there’s a guy who’s a terrible hitter/defender (let’s say OPS ~.500), but no matter what, gets high pitch count ABs. How many pitches per AB would he have to average to be 1. an everyday player 2. an all-star 3. an MVP You just described every catcher Cleveland has had for the past 4 years
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Sydin posted:Nah he's consistently had weird hangups about letting the young guys eat and attaches himself to crusty vets like a security blanket. The Hosmer situation was hilariously mismanaged by Ross trying to treat him as an everyday player. Ortega took up a stupid amount of starts last year. Velasquez came up and hit a grand slam in his first game back this year and then Ross inexplicably benched him for a week until he could be sent back down. The Rios and Torrens situations were just bizarre while also being eerily identical to how Ross treated younger bench guys prior with Hermosillo, Robel, Frazier, etc. And yeah, none of these guys are exactly superstars but any potential ability they may have had/have to impact the MLB team is unknown because Ross won't give you any runway unless you're being paid a bunch or over 30. On one hand the Hosmer situation was bad, but on the other look at what has happened since they got rid of Hosmer. Makes you think...
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Sydin posted:The clear and obvious better choice was to just roll with Mervis and give him runway to figure it out. If there are no good options anyway then why not let the rookie try to find his footing instead of squandering AB's on a busted veteran who doesn't factor at all into the future? That was true of Hosmer when he was gobbling up starts at 1B/DH and it's just as true now of Mancini. Teams don't like to let a guy who's clearly in a deep rut just keep wallowing away in the Majors. Whether that's because they think going back to AAA and working on things and building confidence or because they don't want to draw ire of the fan base for not even pretending to contend by letting a 1b with a .500 OPS keep starting every day idk. Also I don't think Ross has much input if Mervis stays up or gets sent to Iowa, I'd think that's a FO decision. I'm not saying Ross is a great manager, I'm fairly ambivalent about him. I just don't think it matters much who is managing, the Cubs aren't doing anything this year.
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In general I’d say it’s safe to say a manager isn’t unilaterally deciding who to play at least for any extended pattern especially when it becomes a story. That’s just not how baseball works anymore. The front office is involved and wants to be sure their acquisitions and callups are being utilized as intended. A manager might decide day to day matchups and rest days but like Ross wasn’t the one deciding to play Hosmer. That was a Cub decision from the day he was signed to say he was cut, at least in the macro.
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I heard the kids were more into Squirt these days https://twitter.com/Reds/status/1676038749493313539
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Poque posted:Hmm it seems that the Cubs are loving terrible. Puzzling 
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Jose Abreu has ~.850 OPS in his last 30 games. Therefore, he is back.
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zoux posted:Jose Abreu has ~.850 OPS in his last 30 games. Therefore, he is back. I sure hope so. He's definitely looked much better lately. Instead of his hits looking like babip miracles his outs are hard ones
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I think I hate this Cubs team even more than I hated last year's team, and I'm pretty sure I hated that team more than any previous iteration in my lifetime. Following the guys in the minors was cool when they were tanking to build that World Series core, but even though I love PCA, there's just not the same juice in the minors. They aren't building a new core down there and they probably aren't buying a core, so they're just an aimless boring mess. There's no Zambrano or Farnsworth or anything to soothe the badness outside of Morel and Stroman, who seems like he's going to be traded. Just a joyless mess of a team.
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Trout may have broken his wrist or hamate bone in his left hand on a swing so lmao the Angels are done.
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IcePhoenix posted:Mike trout has hit within 300 points of .580 in literally every year of his career outside the first one where he didn't even play enough to not count as a rookie the next season. In a full season. I admire him as much as anyone does, but if he ever plays 140 games again, I will eat my hat. His days of playing 140+ games a year are over.
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Mariners closer only gives up 3 runs, sufficient for the win! 
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Mariners closer only gives up 3 runs, sufficient for the win! I like when Mariners closers give up 3 runs personally 
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zoux posted:Jose Abreu has ~.850 OPS in his last 30 games. Therefore, he is back.  Could be! I was worried about that little dip in mid-June but it's encouraging!
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illcendiary posted:Buddy of mine posed an interesting hypothetical/thought exercise earlier. Say there’s a guy who’s a terrible hitter/defender (let’s say OPS ~.500), but no matter what, gets high pitch count ABs. How many pitches per AB would he have to average to be 1. an everyday player 2. an all-star 3. an MVP Who is Austin Hedges, OP? N: Triston McKenzie out until effectively the end of the season, he's elected to try and work through the right teres strain before seeing if he needs TJ surgery. V: 
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Ohtani is finally pitching here in San Diego today, so of course it’s on the 4th when I have long-standing plans with friends. Maybe some day I will see this man pitch in person.
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July 4th means the anniversary of the 19-inning Mets-Braves game with the Rick Camp dong, hadn't heard the Mets broadcast side of it till stumbling on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spOofaFiuaw
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Good Dog posted:Trout may have broken his wrist or hamate bone in his left hand on a swing so lmao the Angels are done. I wouldn't say done. But that's loving bad. Their league batting average is something like fifth, but their RISP hitting is bad. Let me look it up. "Situational hitting has been a source of frustration for the Angels this year, as their .332 team on-base percentage ranks fifth in the Majors and should lead to more runs being scored. But they’re hitting just .246 with runners in scoring position, which ranks tied for 24th among the 30 MLB clubs." https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-exits-after-foul-ball They need to buy some pitchers yesterday. Their offense is there.
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I'm glad I didn't watch the Cubs game yesterday, I would've still been mad today. Holy crap, what was that? 
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Naz al-Ghul posted:I'm glad I didn't watch the Cubs game yesterday, I would've still been mad today. Holy crap, what was that? 
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Intruder posted:it's a testament to how incredible a player trout is that he gets hurt like he does and still is already a no doubt hall of famer at his age I don't know if he's still on pace, but for quite a while he was at or better than Mantle at his age, stats wise.
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Naz al-Ghul posted:I'm glad I didn't watch the Cubs game yesterday, I would've still been mad today. Holy crap, what was that? I was there. In person. It sucked.
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Intruder posted:it's a testament to how incredible a player trout is that he gets hurt like he does and still is already a no doubt hall of famer at his age Remember the "joke" that if you split Barry Bonds' career in half you'd have two HoF careers? See if you can spot which one is Bonds through age 31 season and Trout through age 31 season:  Player A: Mike Trout (I didn't realize he got HBP so much) Player B: Barry Bonds (the SB probably gives it away)
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No Safe Word posted:Remember the "joke" that if you split Barry Bonds' career in half you'd have two HoF careers? See if you can spot which one is Bonds through age 31 season and Trout through age 31 season: The three bunts on Player B are killing me.
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No Safe Word posted:Remember the "joke" that if you split Barry Bonds' career in half you'd have two HoF careers? See if you can spot which one is Bonds through age 31 season and Trout through age 31 season: The K:BB ratios give it away pretty easily, Trout actually does strike out a fair bit and IIRC only has 1-2 seasons where he managed to walk more than he struck out. Still highlights just how absolutely insane Trout has been though, yes. It's funny that he just doesn't really exist in the modern popular consciousness of all time sports greats because he's also an extremely normal dude who doesn't really exude much of a force of personality. You can't even really blame it on the Angels, because Ohtani has managed to garner way more media attention on the same team. Sydin fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jul 4, 2023 |
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elentar posted:July 4th means the anniversary of the 19-inning Mets-Braves game with the Rick Camp dong, hadn't heard the Mets broadcast side of it till stumbling on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spOofaFiuaw Mets announcers specifically had to mention Camp had never homered. They deserved everything coming to them. Skip Caray used to comment that it wasn't the only time he'd come home after a ballgame at 5 a.m., but it was the first time he'd done it with a clear conscience. The Atlanta Constitution's press deadline meant they only had a game report through 16 innings. Camp homered in the 18th. Somehow, the Journal has the whole report in their July 5 edition. They also squeezed in the headline for the final edition on 1A: Stadium fireworks go off at 4:01 a.m.. There was an estimate of 8,,000-10,000 left in the stadium at this time.
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gently caress. Trout's hamate bone fractured. https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-has-left-wrist-injury Also, Judge is discussing surgery. Hasn't got back to hitting yet. Outlook - Not Good. Which is a shame. I enjoy watching a God Damned Giant hit tanks. https://www.mlb.com/news/aaron-judge-might-need-offseason-surgery-on-toe
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Monathin posted:Who is Austin Hedges, OP? I know he’s still very young and has a lot of time to get past it, but he’s looking more and more like Danny Salazar 2.0 at this point. Great pitcher, tons of potential, just can’t stay healthy. Here’s hoping he comes back strong in 2024
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I hear former beloved Padre veteran and clubhouse leader Eric Hosmer is available. 
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Sydin posted:I hear former beloved Padre veteran and clubhouse leader Eric Hosmer is available. 4x rawlings gold glove winner eric hosmer? wow, can't believe this opportunity, how is he available??
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