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Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDww1S1GLvE

Hello and welcome to Mortal Kombat! Ever since its inception, the MK series has been pushing boundaries, kicking rear end and taking names. Now at the eve of MK1 (the 12th one, konfusingly), it's time we have a new thread! Let's get to the questions:

What's different between 11 and 1?
Well, there's a lot. The two biggest changes are the removal of kustom variations and the addition of the kameo system. Kustoms are gone, everyone is just the one kharacter. Kameos are similar to assists from Marvel vs Kapcom, but you don't tag between partners like in 2, 3 or infinite. It makes sense in kontext of the game.

How's the story looking?
MK is known for its rich story, and MK1 is no exception! At the end of the last game, Liu Kang became the god of thunder and fire and kreated a new world where everyone kould be free and happy. Well, that's not going to happen, but the extent to which Liu fucks up will be for MK1's story mode!

When is the game koming out?
It's koming out on September 19, 2023 for Switch, Xbox Series, PS5 and Steam. No krossplay on launch sadly.

How's the netcode?
It's sad that this even has to be an issue but I'm here to tell you that MK has state of the art netcode that stands as some of the best in the business.

MK is koming soon! Get hype


thanks to wowporn

God Bless My Posting Friends

Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jul 8, 2023

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Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Regrettable posted:

Do we have official confirmation or is that from the leaked list?

it's pure faith

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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codo27 posted:

Good MKs: OG 1 (for its time), 2, 9. Will this be the Fourth Good Mortal Kombat?

umk3 and x are good games

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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the variations were kool, brought a lot of player expression to the table, plus it reminds me of melty blood moons and i smile when i think of melting even tho i don't play that game

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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it's because it's too slow and the kharacters are a bit samey. lots of midscreen footsies dudes. MKX had a lot of high/low mixup kharacters and fast gameplay w/ the run button and a lot of ppl prefer that

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Minidust posted:

Yeah at least on a purely psychological level, picking a Kameo character is much better than deciding which special moves you're leaving behind. Variations felt like adding complexity for complexity's sake, solving a problem that didn't exist, not unlike the "fighting styles" of 5 thru 7. Man did anybody like Fighting Styles?? Felt like something that should have been a single character's gimmick, at most.

The difference is that variations are tuned for kompetition and balance (even if certain kombatants had ones that were just better than the other two) and fighting styles were slapped together as a gimmick

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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So I've been playing deadly alliance and Deception and I can't help but notice that the game has such slow forward and back dashes. Is there any way to wavedash or make yourself go faster in some way in those games or is my sneaking suspicion that they're not very good games correct

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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pretty soft girl posted:

Iirc the big thing with DA (and maybe Deception?) is that a lot of good poking normals and strings can be cancelled into backdash to make them safe

I think there's also sidestep wave dashing in certain stances, I distinctly remember Shang Tsung being able to move laterally really quickly

You're also very correct in your suspicion, those games were embarassing efforts even when they were new compared to the 3D Game golden age that brought Soul Calibur 2, Tekken 5, VF4, and DOAwhatever. They're pretty much only saved by having decent side content, even weirdos who are hardcore evangelists for the 3D era never seem to talk about the gameplay

If it weren't for the MK brand those games would be sitting in the dustbin of history with Tao Feng and Kakuto Chojin

i found this video by the GOATs ketchup and mustard that explains deadly alliance and yes, you can dash cancel and wavedash in DA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIPRTY6Qv2g

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/MortalKombat/status/1681334218713104384?t=xuf0QR7NCVs336V1dW-Qjw&s=19

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1681356039764033544?s=20

for those of you who don't know, triplemania is the largest show of mexico's 2nd biggest wrestling promotion, AAA

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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widespread posted:

Wonder which performer's gonna promote it, I think there are a few that'd fit a sorta-MK aesthetic.

... I forget if Super Porky's still active.

i'd guess pentagon jr

super porky is dead

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1681360354880651378?s=20

oh.......

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/noobde/status/1681850087738146817

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/ThalionFTW/status/1681919864988942347?s=20

Kommunity manager isn't sure if they can stream the SDCC panel lol

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/alex_navarro/status/1682545349687115792?t=gWaTY70Lv1Bde4TMmbGbRg&s=19

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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exquisite tea posted:

Announcing DLC characters before the release of the full game is pretty standard FG grift by now. Pretty much all of them do it.

yeah sf6 did it and nobody batted an eye

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Buschmaki posted:

what grind...? You dont even have to unlock kharacters...

i think he means for kosmetics

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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the biggest thing to me was that brutalities and fatalities were locked in the krypt. just give me the moves, ed

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Jamesman posted:

Like for console exclusives? I didn't realize it was a significant issue in fighting games because I'm not big on fighting games overall, but I think if a version of a game has a platform exclusive, the other versions should cost less since you're getting less content. I thought it was funny how Kratos wasn't allowed in tournaments because it wasn't fair to XBox people who didn't know how to play against him though.

I'm just an old man disillusioned with the games industry. I still like Mortal Kombat and I'm interested to see what they do with the actual meat of this game, so I'm not intending to just jump in here and poo poo on everything.

No, fighting games were notorious for selling balance patches as new $60 games. That's why Street Fighter 4 is a 4 game series.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Animalities looking stupid is part of the appeal

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/uck_shuck_iv/status/1683697168014606338?s=46&t=a6CxCWIxrD6TbXwVPFPXpg

in a press release they announced a bunch of kameos, don't mind the lore implications

Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Jul 25, 2023

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Since mk1 is gonna be at evo, I wonder if we'll get a new kharacter there

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/noobde/status/1685368442319216640?s=20

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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well, geras got announced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72okJYRJWDI

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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DLC Inc posted:

watching some of the MK11 endings and man I hope Skarlet comes back, one of the most fun movesets in the game, killer design, total psychopath. Leave D'Vorah/Collector/Kotal behind, bring Skarlet back

*kollector

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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congratulations to ninjakilla for being the final mk11 evo champion

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39CVZt6uu0

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Not sure if this means anything to you, but to me, this means the game is gonna own

https://twitter.com/SonicFox/status/1687548834271150080

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/MortalKombat/status/1689667045879914496?s=20

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVPkIQdrxSE

ketchup and mustard got some video capture time w/ the game at evo. there's a lot of cool things about this video but the coolest has to be the clicking noise playing throughout. this is an option in the game where it'll play a clicking noise faster or slower depending on how close or far you are from your opponent. this is for visually impaired gamers who need an audio cue to help with footsies

idk about you but i think that's really sick

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Floodixor posted:

hey so as a kid of the 80s and 90s I grew up with MK1 through 3, of course, but then never played any of them again until MK11. I played it on gamepass several months ago for quite a bit, forgot about it, and then it went on sale on Steam with the ultimate edition for 8 bucks so I got it and I've been playing it a lot lately

I've never been a HUGE fighting game player like some of ya'll (like I don't understand some of the language used, the deeply technical stuff that fighting game fans talk about) but I've enjoyed it enough as a fan

my question is what are the honest criticisms of MK11? I absolutely agree that the Krypt in particular is a total grind, and I also don't care what my dude's sword looks like, etc. I completely agree with what someone said in this thread about it feeling like it was going to have a million microtransactions but then it got changed at the last minute

but as far as gameplay, it's decent. BUT I never played MK10 or anything so I don't know comparisons - so what makes MK11 a bad game, in the thread's opinion? You all obviously know a ton about MK so I'd be interested to know.

also my main is Fujin because he's fun as hell but also Scorpion because I'm a basic bitch player but I can't seem to pull off those combos!!! So I stick to the easier kharacters

my biggest complaint is that it replaced the run button of mkx w/ wavedashing. wavedashing/dashbocking isn't new to mk (mk9 famously had a dashblock that defined the meta), but i don't like how it was done in mk11. in mk11, dash animations aren't standardized so wavedashing isn't either. iirc it has to do with how far the character's left foot goes off the ground when stepping. this means that some characters (fujin) have crazy fast dashes that make them top tier, while others (noob saibot) don't so they're stuck in baby bitch tier

tldr: i think movement in mk11 is wack and i'm glad mk1 is going back to mk9 style dashblocking

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Floodixor posted:

was there anything just about the base game of MK11 that really irked people? Like how is MK10 better than MK11 for instance, I guess. I dunno, I like MK11 a lot aside from the krypt grindy bullshit but I don't know a ton about fighting games like you guys do

no run button is the big one. run button in mkx allowed for some crazy combo and neutral (the gameplay where neither opponent is at an advantage) moving back and forth

also this is really like personal preference but i think the variations in x were better done than in 11. then they moved to kustom variations and i think that was a terrible idea so mkx all the way

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Mr. Neutron posted:



What the hell? This makes the move list extremely difficult to read at a glance, what was wrong with arrows???

what are you talking about, this is fine

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Blackbelt Bobman posted:

Chameleon came out as trans and changed her name to Khameleon

this post sucks

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Mr. Neutron posted:

The combo damage is pretty drat high, not sure I like that to be fair. Something as simple as Liu Kang's B23 air 134>BF1 is already 30% meterless...

Hell yeah that's what I wannnnttttttttt

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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https://twitter.com/noobde/status/1693879246849028208?t=Qx8sJr72YNqMphtegGcODA&s=19

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Jerkface posted:

Shujinko's XRAY was actually really cool lol

Shao Kahn and Sindel on the roster. Does that line up with the leak?

yes

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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Gavok posted:

Who does that leave?

reiko and nitara

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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maruhkati posted:

This is kind of the fundamental problem with how Aftermath ended. With a mighty god capable of rewriting time on the side of good, it's impossible for evil to be much of a threat unless said god is a colossally stupid fuckup.

in the prematch conversation between li mei and liu kang, liu says that he cannot eliminate injustice from the world because of how it's made

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Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

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